Thursday, April 22nd 2021
Fractal releases Ion Gold PSU Series
The latest addition to Fractal Design's Ion PSU line-up is the Ion Gold. Tailored specifically for anyone looking for a high-quality power supply at a competitive price, the Ion Gold comes packed with capability. Boasting a baseline 80 Plus Gold Efficiency rating, the Ion Gold features great electrical performance and a quiet operation in an attractive design. It is fully modular and just 150 mm deep for reduced clutter and easy installation. It also comes with a 7-year warranty and a full electrical protection suite for peace of mind.
Ion Gold is out now - check with your favourite retailer about availability
- 80 Plus Gold Efficiency rating for reduced noise and energy consumption
- Premium Japanese 105°C capacitor(s) on the primary side for superior reliability and durability
- Equipped with a large temperature-controlled Fractal Design Dynamic 140 mm fan, custom-tailored for power supply use with an exceptionally low minimum speed
- DC-DC design for more precise electrical output and full compatibility with modern components
- Fully modular design for reduced clutter and maximum ease of installation
- Compact 150 mm depth allows for installation in compact cases or provides additional cable management room in larger cases
- Supports the latest ATX 2.52 standard with improved start-up time and transient load response
- 7-year warranty and a full electrical protection suite provides peace of mind
Ion Gold is out now - check with your favourite retailer about availability
53 Comments on Fractal releases Ion Gold PSU Series
I've also said "Japanese formula" yet you talked about how Japanese caps are made in other places like I don't know it.
Teapos are known to age quicker than Nippons, Nichicons or whatever else caps out there. They're a lower grade and this is a fact. Some people exclusively ditch them and intend on only buying PSUs with Jap caps. I personally have suggested a fair amount of FSP units with those Taiwanese caps, but they go for budget anyway. Backing up on my OP, I was shooting for Super Flower over these. As was said by uncleweb, it's a shame that Super Flower's presence isn't great everywhere.
Then you talked about some very old designs such as the M12-III or you owning an RM with rather crap Su'scon caps in a premium PSU - and because JonnyGuru designed it, it should be acceptable or something. Apparently a 10 year old warranty makes up for it...
I don't know how any of that is relevant to the topic but I think you're simply misunderstanding and making your way up along.
Jonnyguru might be the god of PSUs for all you like, that doesn't change the matter of fact of him working for Corsair and Corsair asking him to save a buck or two on each unit by putting those crappy caps on them. Guess what? There are no Super Flower or Seasonic units without majorly Nippon caps, out of the modern platforms or even older ones.
And a pretty okay unit even today, but still vastly overhyped by multiple Seasonic fanboys (nevermind it's not even made in Seasonic factories, rather it's outsourced to RSY).
A big part of why I went for a Fractal PSU is the warranty cover, its not the 10yr period as a lot of makers are now doing that. It's the fact that Scan.co.uk cover the whole 10yrs and if for some reason there is an issue or if I had not of bought it from Scan, Fractal have told me in writing that they would collect and replace the PSU at their cost. I think they can do because they are based in Sweden, so partly out of the EU or Sweden has an import/export agreement with the UK?
Time doesn't need to show anything, if you're putting low loads on your PSU, those caps should do OK but those caps are one reason to throw your PSU out to a secondary PC after a good 5-10 years of run at heavier loads. PSUs with Jap caps, on the other hand, can keep going.
Yes, Super Flower does have some designs that aren't as good as Golden Green or w/e, but the point is, THEY ARE NOT AVAILABLE in most markets NOR ANYBODY ACTUALLY BUYS THEM.
EVGA B3, uses Teapo caps on secondary, so it's bad if we follow your logic.
Super Flower Legion HX, there are no reviews yet but they only claim primary Japanese capacitors, so secondary can be anything, most likely Teapo or Elite given Super Flower track record.
I don't know why i'm still arguing with you at this point. You've happily living in your own 'Seasonic and Super Flower are the best, they only use best quality Japanese capacitors and therefore their PSUs can't be bad' - world, so i leave you in it, adios, i'm out.
I don't need to read no reviews on the S12, if you look at the design you will find out that it's based on an actually very old platform with some upgrades.
EVGA B3 is not even a good PSU, and Super Flower has always used Nippon Chemi-Cons in their units. You argue with me while knowing none of this. Neither I said just because a PSU uses Jap caps, it's the best. Get real already.
gonna stop feeding ....
Obviously those capacitors passed internal QC and CWT & Corsair are pleased with the QA otherwise there would be a significant cost impact across the board for all three (part, OEM, brand).
Jon knows his stuff but my "guess" is his team, CWT, and the part manufacturer are all proving proof it will pass their ten year warranty test. Because they have a contract and Hong Hua provides the perfect mix of price, quality, quantity, and most important consistency (getting the fans to them on time). Long story rather short; in the NA market a few brands like PC P&C saw a niche demand of better replacement PSU among the market of various levels of junk. PC P&C tapped seasonic and soon other brands like Antec and eventually Corsair tapped them as well along with other OEMs like Delta & CWT. Review sites like Hardware Secrets and Jonnyguru praised the seasonic builds against the junk competition and to Seasonic (and the brands) credit they saw the reviews for what they are are; free marketing. Soon they started to build units specifically to achieve test results that sent reviewers and readers into orgasmic PC builder bliss. Soon you have legions of readers seeing fan posts and tier lists of nothing but "Seasonic is the best anything else is heresy" thread after thread even if there are other OEMs out there can build units just as good if not better given the appropriate manufacturing price point. Why doesn't seasonic send out their lower end units or outsourced units for testing? Because they have brand equity among the PC builders community to protect. plenty of excellent CWT units out there under various brands, as well as super flower units under evga, FSP units under Be Quiet
there are two sparkles;
Sparkle Power Inc is FSP (name change)
Sparkle Computer sells graphic cards and at one time sold some PSU made by great wall
You're claiming some solid numbers out of thin air such as Teapos lasting a good 10 years which depends on the loads, temperature and a few other factors.
You also have no clue in the Teapo lack of quality in the long term lasting department in past, so I'm seeing no point in arguing about this. Do your research and stop jumping on the hurr durr it's Jonnyguru so Su'sucon caps should be acceptable bandwagon.
No, I'm using the specs they send us (you can google them I'm sure) and the magic yet mysterious fields of study called engineering and mathematics. Besides our internal weekly returns & quality reports, I have no clue. While I do not know what the " hurr durr it's Jonnyguru so Su'sucon caps should be acceptable bandwagon" is I'll keep an eye out for it.
1) The M12-II uses Nippon Chemi-Cons.
2) The specs are an estimate and doesn't change the matter of fact of Teapos being subpar in long term longevity compared to Japanese capacitors.
3) Nobody cares about your weekly returns, people want PSUs that last through multiple rigs / when needed to be sold, be in good condition.
4) I was referring to the other person's PSU having Su'sucon caps but because Jonnyguru designed it, it should be good.
5) You talked about Panasonics and Hitachis, which are PRIMARY capacitors, NOT secondary.
6) If you're going to make fun of somebody like you did with your earlier post, at least have a clue on what you're talking about.
1.Nippon Chemi-Con Corporation is a Japanese corporation that produces capacitors and other discrete electronic components
2. no one has stated they are equals but rather at what point would you see the difference and what would it take to get to that point
3. We (the company I work for) cares, we are a for profit business that employees office workers and warehouse workers. We also use companies for transit and storage as well as several manufacturing companies and multiple e-commerce companies that sell our products. They all care.
4. I don't recall Jon ever stating he designed a PSU. Just that heads R&D
5. I did not know we switched the subject to just secondary caps.
6. Who did I make fun of?
Yes, Nippon Chemi-Con is from Japan and, Nippon is a place in Japan.
Jon did work on a lot of the AX series units, he did a fair amount of the work involved on the AXi PSUs... if the people you sell PSUs to care so much about this, don't sell them units with Su'scons aka almost crap caps. Teapos are on the acceptable end, but seeing them used on rather premium units still - I can't completely stomach. They shouldn't settle for less than NCCs on units like these, but it's a Sirtec so I'm not surprised.
Typically on a PSU the fan is the first thing to go. Often on PSU there is cost cutting on the secondary caps and on cheap PSU there is cost cutting across the board which can result in extra stress on certain parts causing them to fail. So the secondary caps can fail but it may be another part causing them to fail, without specifics & proper analysis we are simply theorizing. That's fine you don't need to purchase it but I'm not sure why you are knocking Sirtec in this regard (plenty of other things you can knock them for) as Corsair is more evolved in the build process of a PSU than any brand outside of maybe CM. Sirtec is not using a single design or part that was not approved by Corsair.
Of course the topic is secondary caps, why should it be primary? Use your logic and you'll figure out that it's the secondary caps that almost always matter most.
You're telling me that it's my opinion while they're cost cutting on PSUs that are supposed to be mid - high end. Seriously, if you don't understand it, refrain from posting.