Friday, August 27th 2021
ASUS Teases ZenWiFi PRO Router
ASUS earlier today teased its upcoming premium home networking product, the ZenWiFi PRO router. Designed in a vertical, cuboidal body with an acrylic top that shows off its MU-MIMO antennas, the ZenWiFi PRO is designed to be space-saving on your desk, while not compromising on range or bandwidth. As an ASUS Zen product, it's likely to be high on the aesthetics, with its matte black body that resembles a skyscraper. The "penthouse" (if you can call it that), features the antennas resembling pillars, as well as an RGB-illuminated ASUS logo that probably serves other functions. The teaser already reveals that the router is designed for 6 GHz Wi-Fi 6E. It's also possible that ASUS throws in goodies such as 2.5 GbE wired LAN and WAN ports, USB 3.x type-C and type-A ports to plug in the next crop of 5G dongles, DAS, and much more. It also wouldn't surprise us if ASUS designs mesh repeaters with the same design scheme as optional accessories, or part of whole-home mesh kits.
59 Comments on ASUS Teases ZenWiFi PRO Router
Jokes aside, ASUS probably are trying to hook up some SOHOs with that thing too?
Awaiting review of the Zen WiFi Pro as a potential multiple unit buyer. On-topic?
Offer rescinded. I am that good IMNHO.
Mesh is only handy when you have a big place and can't wire it up.Hopefully, but unlikely. If they do that, it would be the first router to offer that.
There are WAY too many routers with a single port that's faster than 1Gbps, but clearly the manufacturers don't seem to cater for those with wired devices any more, so that single port is only for the minority of people that can get faster than 1Gbps internet connection. Oh well...
Shame there ain't any miniPC boxes with dual 2.5Gbe.. while RTL8125 is around plenty of time already... to my needs, slapping openWRT on anything that boots is fine... but I guess even that has something to do with CV19 induced deficit.
The heck I even have setup a RPI with openWRT as I have near spam like amount of smart 2.4GHz devices around home, like Light bulbs, AC, Temperature sensors, power switches etc... and one router cannot handle it anymore... it runs into device limits. first world problems tho...
Yeah, I don't get the combo of one 2.5Gbps and one 1Gbps port on anything, since as I've pointed out elsewhere, even Intel charges less than 70 cent's more for their 2.5Gbps chips over their 1Gbps chips and that is list price, so I would expect the actual cost difference to be less. Realtek should be even cheaper.
I'm not sure OpenWRT would be the right thing for x86 hardware though. Besides, I'm not even sure the routing capabilities of Intel's "Atom" CPUs would be good enough to use it as a main router. See link below. For whatever reason, that thing can't even do porper Gigabit speeds running iPerf with Ubuntu installed. If you read the comments, you'll see it gets even worse when he tested with pfSense installed, although that might be a FreeBSD related issues.
www.cnx-software.com/2021/08/23/liva-q1l-review-pfsense-ubuntu-20-04-windows-10-dual-ethernet-mini-pc/
The RPi's make terrible router, no offense meant, but the hardware lacks a lot of features that are needed for proper router functionality. In fact, the RPi's are pretty terrible for a lot of things, least not due to the lack of AES hardware encryption.
As to what your router can handle, all comes down to what hardware it's based to, no? If you've got an old MIPS based router, the single or in best case, dual core CPU isn't likely to be able to keep up with too many wireless devices, but it'll most likely have no routing issues. On the other hand, most ARM based SoCs require hardware acceleration for the routing performance not to suffer once you get above 200Mbps or so. Many also have integrated Wi-Fi accelerators, although Broadcom moved this into their Wi-Fi chips instead. This is why router chips aren't just any random ARM SoC.
Sorry, been a bit too involved with these types of products for a while :p
RPi is perfect for controlling dumb device zerg swarm and you just power up and config it... and it works pretty fine, without much tinkering on the linux side, Luci is enough after you set it up. Just for what is intended to do, control an army of IoT's, that basically needs only some toggle bits. I can expand multiple USB Wifi dongles and create more radios to cover more devices. I am using a RPI3 B+ so for 30€... I had the device gathering dust in my shelf anyways. I dunno... it works for me, it is dog slow, but stable. If I do to my older crap EA6400 on 2.4GHz it stalls and reboots... I don't change it because it is enough as it provides me stable 500Mbps 5GHz AC wifi speeds on my mobile devices... and again, if routers will not carry 2.5Gbe on LAN side I will not spend money on EOL hardware.
When it comes to linux it is all about drivers, you can't just compare anything. It is all about drivers. Some combo may suck hard some not. Well I am just playing with the idea getting some Atom with AES-NI mini PC and slap some recent Intel AC wifi. Maybe there are some multi wifi boards, there are adapters to proper pcie and then you can put a 2.5Gbe NIC... But that's too much work. I am lazy on things like that.
What you'd need to get is something like this, but I'm not sure if there are drivers for a DIY build for it.
www.qnap.com/en/product/qwa-ac2600
A client Wi-Fi adapter, such as the ones from Intel, will crap out after you connect a handful of devices to it, if even that. They weren't designed for routing traffic from multiple devices.
I used to work for a router manufacturer, so I'm well aware of not just driver issues, but also the amount of tuning that can be done to make the drivers work well for specific hardware combinations. The big problem with anything Wi-Fi is that there just aren't any good open drivers and the binary blobs from the hardware vendors tend to have their fair share of bugs, that sometimes never gets fixed. We ran into an issue with a Wi-Fi chip from MTK and it took them three months just to acknowledge there was an issue and another couple of months to fix it. If that's how it is to be a paying customer, it's no wonder that so many retail products work as well as they do. The router hardware vendors really need to step up their game, but alas, it seems like that's not going to happen until they get slapped hard by some court.
The fact that there is a huge mess around compatibility is know for years and will not change, for most problems exactly language may be the cause, as half of the remarks probably are in mandarin and the coder is long gone. Well QCA9984 based devices are also in the wild... lightning strikes always open up possibility to hoard those things from dead routers... if it comes cheap... you know...
But as I said, I am still tinkering around the idea, at least when building my own, and I will have the royal option to blame only myself. And a mainstream device that ticks all the boxes for a device that would last like 5 years+ without needing to upgrade doesn't exist yet...
Thus the discussion... what for are these devices like this ASUS? For fashion? Bring us the real deal already, darn multigig switch on the port side.
Bonkers :roll:
The core IP blocks are all the same.
In fact, some Ubiquiti AP's still use old QCA MIPS chips, much the same as TP-Link does in their low cost devices.