Thursday, August 1st 2024

ASUS Readies 2025 ROG Z13 Flow Gaming Tablet Powered by AMD "Strix Halo"

ASUS is betting bigger on game consoles or PCs built like consoles. The company in 2023 introduced the first ROG Z13 Flow, a gaming-grade tablet, powered by a 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processor and mid-tier RTX 40-series "Ada" discrete mobile GPU. The 2025 ROG Z13 Flow is a 13-inch, 16:10 tablet with an integrated kickstand. You can use it like a handheld with touch controls, or place it on a surface and use conventional gaming peripherals, such as keyboard+mouse, or a game controller. Since the device is meant to provide a AAA gaming experience, it packs some serious kit.

Apparently, the 2025 ASUS ROG Z13 Flow will implement AMD's upcoming "Strix Halo" processor that packs up to 16 "Zen 5" CPU cores, and an oversized iGPU with 40 RDNA 3.5 compute units (2,560 stream processors), and a 256-bit LPDDR5 memory interface, besides a 50 TOPS-class NPU to qualify for Copilot+ AI PC rating. Such a chip would meet the hardware goals of the ROG Z13 Flow, and eliminate the need for a discrete GPU, letting ASUS reduce the mainboard size. The power management of "Strix Halo" would see the CPU and SoC given a roughly 30 W budget, and the iGPU roughly 80 W. Its cooling solution focuses squarely on the "Strix Halo" chip, with no other major chip on the device (the SoC is wired out to serve all chipset functions, no FCH needed).
Sources: VideoCardz, Sam Jun-Wei Hu, HXL (Twitter)
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18 Comments on ASUS Readies 2025 ROG Z13 Flow Gaming Tablet Powered by AMD "Strix Halo"

#1
Daven
First evidence that Strix Halo could fit in handhelds?

If so, this is going to be a highly anticipated APU.
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#2
HisDivineOrder
DavenFirst evidence that Strix Halo could fit in handhelds?

If so, this is going to be a highly anticipated APU.
Imagine it in a well-ventilated Steam Deck Home stand-in. I'm definitely curious to see its performance.
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#3
R0H1T
That's probably asking too much, if it's limited to at least 12-16 cores then the GPU cannot fit in a small package i.e. enough for a handheld. There could be more "Halo" dies of course but we'll have to wait to see how this story develops!
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#4
wNotyarD
ASUS at least has the cojones to try some novelties with their ROG devices.
In the event they indeed make a Strix Halo Flow Z13, would it be too much asking for a "more mundane" Flow X13 or Zephyrus G14 carrying this APU?
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#5
AnarchoPrimitiv
R0H1TThat's probably asking too much, if it's limited to at least 12-16 cores then the GPU cannot fit in a small package i.e. enough for a handheld. There could be more "Halo" dies of course but we'll have to wait to see how this story develops!
I believe there will be, I remember seeing some leaks saying there will be SKUs with fewer CPU cores and fewer CUs....an 8 core 20/24CU version for a handheld would be nice

Either way, I hope minisforum and other Mini PC manufacturers get their hands on these and make some seriously powerfull SFF units
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#6
Daven
AnarchoPrimitivI believe there will be, I remember seeing some leaks saying there will be SKUs with fewer CPU cores and fewer CUs....an 8 core 20/24CU version for a handheld would be nice

Either way, I hope minisforum and other Mini PC manufacturers get their hands on these and make some seriously powerfull SFF units
Maybe we can get a handheld that contains Strix Point and docks with a cradle that contains Strix Halo. Sort of like an eSoC instead of just an eGPU.
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#7
ymdhis
What is that part reaching 110+C in the corner?
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#8
The Quim Reaper
Nice tech but this being Asus, it's going to cost at least $1500.
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#10
SL2
DavenFirst evidence that Strix Halo could fit in handhelds?
No.
DavenMaybe we can get a handheld that contains Strix Point and docks with a cradle that contains Strix Halo. Sort of like an eSoC instead of just an eGPU.
Isn't that just two computers?
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#11
GenericUsername2001
I mostly just want to see a one 8 core chiplet + full 40 CU iGPU versions; would be perfect for both gaming laptops & gaming/home theater mini PCs.

I do hope AMD prices these well; if they sell them to OEMs for slightly less than what a similar CPU + Discrete GPU costs, they could easily have a big hit on their hands, especially since setting up the motherboard & cooling should be simpler. The GPU performance should be in the neighborhood of mobile Nvidia 4060/4070 chips, so Nvidia will really have to step it up with the mobile 5000 series if they don't want that market cut into.
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#12
KLMR
This is a joke.
The goal is show images to demonstrate how battery temperature changes depending on orientation.
On both "images" the temperature range is way off centered on the battery and way beyond the temperature gradient on the battery.

Any difference has no meaningfull practical impact. Ambient temperature, external airflow, radiation...

They had some thermal images and someone had to say something about them.
Its like those youtubers spending tens of thousands of dollars to make a video like they've discovered the difference between anechoic and semianechoic...









"waste heat accumulating"
...
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#13
ToTTenTranz
KLMRThis is a joke.
The goal is show images to demonstrate how battery temperature changes depending on orientation.
On both "images" the temperature range is way off centered on the battery and way beyond the temperature gradient on the battery.

Any difference has no meaningfull practical impact. Ambient temperature, external airflow, radiation...

They had some thermal images and someone had to say something about them.
Its like those youtubers spending tens of thousands of dollars to make a video like they've discovered the difference between anechoic and semianechoic...
It's not a joke, it's probably the results of computational fluid dynamics simluation that is standard for any product of this kind during development.

It's natural that they would repeat the simulation for both orientations, lest they get any surprises during production or after release.
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#14
Yashyyyk
I don't know if I can simply paste my twitter post into here, so I'll copy and paste text

For those who believe 110W is unrealistic, it is "only" 20-30W more than what it does now (and honestly you don't have to max clocks)

the current version does do 80W pretty well, similarly with the Flow X13

the PX13 according to NBC approaches 90W combined under 80 degrees

(image is from NBC Flow Z13 ACRNM)



My testing of the Flow X13 at 70W, could go higher?
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#15
SL2
GenericUsername2001I mostly just want to see a one 8 core chiplet + full 40 CU iGPU versions; would be perfect for both gaming laptops & gaming/home theater mini PCs.
Exactly, if 8 cores can get you that far with a 4090, why would this one have 16 cores? It just get hotter and draws more battery, which is a much bigger drawback here than in desktops. Also, don't forget the higher price, and since it's chiplets, AMD doesn't have to disable cores to make such a model.

Of course it's good for the customers to have options, just like some people wants a 7950X3D, but that's not what the majority wants.
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#16
Carillon
ymdhisWhat is that part reaching 110+C in the corner?
It could be an sd card reader. Could be something else, or asus trolling.
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#17
SL2
ymdhisWhat is that part reaching 110+C in the corner?
Could it be anything else than an SSD?
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#18
junglist724
I want AMD to really show off and give us a similar APU with vcache on every chiplet and HBM on package.
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