Solid list...yes, atm? no...

Vista has potential, i will give that...but has bugs and compatibility issues to knock out first. Possibly end of this yea or so, vista should be ideal.

It is especially great when you crack it and it sez "Windows is activated", I just get a kick out of proving that Vista isn't "uncrackable".

Ah, no that list is lame. It completely ignores the oversights of issues with
-3rd party drivers
-hardware problems
-no Vista exclusive games nor none MS software. I mean you don't buy an OS to just use the OS only!!!
-HTPC issues

the main problem i find with vista is if you use a computer made for vista you can guarantee it will run faster under xp than in vista, its like buying a new car and in running slower and less efficient than an older one.

EastCoasthandleAh, no that list is lame. It completely ignores the oversights of issues with
-3rd party drivers
-hardware problems
-no Vista exclusive games nor none MS software. I mean you don't buy an OS to just use the OS only!!!
-HTPC issues

No shit. Where the did that advert list come from?

Disclaimer - this post has been edited by a mod who follows the rules of the forums...

what can u do on xp that you can't on vista
i will tell you what xp cant do dx10 games that make or kids laugh at the graphics of halflife2


you know the stop what do you get on your xp rig

I do though... The f word is not to be used.

eh...honestly i think the only reason why anyone should upgrade to vista is DX10. i wouldnt even bother with a windows PC if i didnt play games on it.

I upgraded for the sake that I never payed for an OS and never will.

I would elaborate on where I obtained this free OS but it would be against the rules.

russianboyI upgraded for the sake that I never payed for an OS and never will.

I would elaborate on where I obtained this free OS but it would be against the rules.

<3 Forumspile.

jocksteelukthe main problem i find with vista is if you use a computer made for vista you can guarantee it will run faster under xp than in vista, its like buying a new car and in running slower and less efficient than an older one.

This is how a lot of people feel I bet!

SK-1This is how a lot of people feel I bet!

i would rather have a the car fully load corvette then the 600hp nascar with 1 seat and no radio
i mean your gal wants want to ride with u

the piont xp run games great most game-programs were made on it and design to play on it

but vista run them fine i can live with 97fps instead of 105fps
or burn a cd at 90sec instend of 85sec and it LOOKS soooo much better and there alot of other impovements (like being able to play better looking games witch is why i use a pc over a xbox like the rest of you)

tony929292i would rather have a the car fully load corvette then the 600hp nascar with 1 seat and no radio
i mean your gal wants want to ride with u

I can slap a nice stereo and a couple of bucket seats in my 600hp Nascar WITH NO BSOD!!!

SK-1I can slap a nice stereo and a couple of bucket seats in my 600hp Nascar WITH NO BSOD!!!

lol
:laugh:
but it would run slower

tony929292lol
:laugh:
but it would run slower

:toast:

tony929292i would rather have a the car fully load corvette then the 600hp nascar with 1 seat and no radio
i mean your gal wants want to ride with u

the piont xp run games great most game-programs were made on it and design to play on it

but vista run them fine i can live with 97fps instead of 105fps
or burn a cd at 90sec instend of 85sec and it LOOKS soooo much better and there alot of other impovements (like being able to play better looking games witch is why i use a pc over a xbox like the rest of you)

All you are saying is that you like eye candy :rolleyes: And, the car analogy is not accurate for 5+ year old OS. What I believe you are saying is that you like to lease cars because the newer model looks better then what you currently have.

i love my Vista i have yet to have a problem do it does slow down my gaming a bit and the only problem i have with that list is the UAC i hate that thing and the new little Windows Defender it nice and really works :)

I dropped Vista because it was buggy as hell. Had the 64-bit ultimate edition.

-Many third party drivers did not function correctly, even with the no-driver-signing hacks.

-more cluttered, and hard to navigate interface

-alot of bloat to slow things down

-aero sucked, nothing usefull about it.

-many bsod

-overall lower performance, and less control over the OS, without any considerable benefits.

Vista is currently only good for noobs who dont know better, and just think newer is better.

The reasons: DX10, Halo 2 and dropping support for older products is what's called extortion... [hillbilly accent] and extortionses is bad [/hillbilly accent]

Let me just point something out here.

Hardware and third party drivers are not the fault of Vista. The final version was RTM months before it was available to the public.

That being said, it can make your Vista experience less pleasurable. Cat 7.3s BSOD on me. Had to roll back to 7.2 . Sure, it made me unhappy, but I blame it on ATI, not Vista.

Wile ELet me just point something out here.

Hardware and third party drivers are not the fault of Vista. The final version was RTM months before it was available to the public.

That being said, it can make your Vista experience less pleasurable. Cat 7.3s BSOD on me. Had to roll back to 7.2 . Sure, it made me unhappy, but I blame it on ATI, not Vista.

:wtf:

Ok then, lets all blame:
-ATI
-Nvidia
-Sound Blaster
-Logitech
-HP
Did I forget anyone? :rolleyes:

What you are saying is no different then a person saying, "there are no decent women out there" Maybe, just maybe the problem isn't the women! :slap:

EastCoasthandle:wtf:

Ok then, lets all blame:
-ATI
-Nvidia
-Sound Blaster
-Logitech
-HP
Did I forget anyone? :rolleyes:

What you are saying is no different then a person saying, "there are no decent women out there" Maybe, just maybe the problem isn't the women! :slap:

No, what I am saying is perfectly true. And, that's a terrible analogy. The driver model for Vista may have changed compared to XP, but the fact that real problems don't arise until you install 3rd party drivers, speaks volumes about those drivers. I personally have only had issues with 7.3 Catalysts. People complain about Creative's XiFi drivers, but how many complain about Audigy drivers? I haven't had a single issue with Audigy drivers in 4 different versions of Vista. So why do Audigy's work fine, but not XiFi's?

So what, you want them to continue to use the same driver framework in their new OS, just because companies already know it inside out? Microsoft suddenly isn't allowed to make changes in the core of their OSes?

So, YES, it is the fault of nVidia, ATI, Creative, HP, Logitech, etc., etc.

Like I said before. All the manufacturers had the final version of Vista available to them for months before we did. Plenty of time to make at least a stable driver.

tony929292...and it LOOKS soooo much better ...

The visual upgrade isn't that amazing considering what many people are able to do as far as gui manipulations in XP. Personally, I feel that Beryl for ubuntu linux looks amazing, a true 3-d accelerated desktop with loads of tweakable settings. Vista has aero glass and that silly alt-tab alternative feature...omg?

Wile ENo, what I am saying is perfectly true. And, that's a terrible analogy. The driver model for Vista may have changed compared to XP, but the fact that real problems don't arise until you install 3rd party drivers, speaks volumes about those drivers. I personally have only had issues with 7.3 Catalysts. People complain about Creative's XiFi drivers, but how many complain about Audigy drivers? I haven't had a single issue with Audigy drivers in 4 different versions of Vista. So why do Audigy's work fine, but not XiFi's?

So what, you want them to continue to use the same driver framework in their new OS, just because companies already know it inside out? Microsoft suddenly isn't allowed to make changes in the core of their OSes?

So, YES, it is the fault of nVidia, ATI, Creative, HP, Logitech, etc., etc.

Like I said before. All the manufacturers had the final version of Vista available to them for months before we did. Plenty of time to make at least a stable driver.

The analogy is spot on and, blaming other manufactures is only an excuse for why 3rd party manufactures are having problems with vista.
Blaming every manufacture who are trying to figure out how to combat Vista's short comings is not the answer here. Specially when XP has no problems, regardless of the reasons why.