Tuesday, January 4th 2022

NVIDIA Launches GeForce RTX 3050 and RTX 3090 Ti

NVIDIA today launched the GeForce RTX 3050 desktop graphics card, positioned a notch below the RTX 3060. It is based on the same 8 nm "GA106" silicon as the RTX 3060, but with a third of its streaming multiprocessors (SMs) disabled. While the "GA106" physically has 3,840 CUDA cores, only 2,560 of them are enabled on the RTX 3050. The RTX 3060 doesn't max it out, either, featuring 3,584. Another key differentiator between the RTX 3050 and the RTX 3060 is memory. The new kid on the block features 8 GB of GDDR6 memory across a 128-bit wide memory bus, while the RTX 3060 has 12 GB of it across 192-bit.

The reference-spec sees the RTX 3050 GPU clock boost up to 1780 MHz. With a typical board power if 130 W, the card can make do with even a 6-pin PCIe connector, however, NVIDIA made 8-pin the standard. The typical use-case for the RTX 3050 would be 1080p gaming with RTX ray tracing enabled, but with DLSS also added to the mix. Without ray tracing, it should be able to handle AAA titles at 1080p with fairly high settings. Available from January 27, 2022, the RTX 3050 starts at $249.
The GeForce RTX 3090 Ti is the company's new "BFGPU," a halo product. Much like the RTX 3090, though, it will be available both as an NVIDIA-designed "Founders Edition" product, as well as custom-design card. In its Founders Edition avatar, the card debuts a new 16-pin power connector, that's capable of an enormous amount of power delivery. This is needed because the RTX 3090 Ti has a typical board power of 450 W, which is 100 W more than its predecessor.

The RTX 3090 Ti maxes out NVIDIA's largest "Ampere" GeForce silicon, codenamed "GA102." This means all 10,752 CUDA cores, 84 RT cores, 336 Tensor cores, are enabled. On closer look of the specs, you'll notice that the CUDA core count isn't that much higher than the 10.496 of the RTX 3090 to warrant the massive increase in power. It's because NVIDIA also upgraded the memory sub-system. While the memory amount is unchanged at 24 GB, the company is using faster 21 Gbps-rated GDDR6X memory chips, while the RTX 3090 uses 19.5 Gbps-rated ones. The third area of development, which we believe is the largest contributor to the power draw, is the GPU Boost frequency, which is now 1860 MHz, compared to 1695 MHz on the RTX 3090. NVIDIA is expected to launch the RTX 3090 Ti within January 2022, the company is yet to finalize pricing.
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33 Comments on NVIDIA Launches GeForce RTX 3050 and RTX 3090 Ti

#1
neatfeatguy
3090Ti pricing is finalized (pre-ebay price).


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#2
skizzo
neatfeatguy3090Ti pricing is finalized (pre-ebay price).


maybe we should take advice from this classic movie and we all need to go back in time and invest in Starbucks with Dr Evil and #2......that way our investments might have earned enough to actually afford one of these GPUs when we travel back to the future lol
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#3
docnorth
This 130w 3050 version isn't exactly an entry level GPU, probably it will sit between 1660ti and 2060.
It seems we won't get a 75w card from Nvidia this generation. Even IF a weaker 3050 version reaches final production, most likely it will be a 90(-100)w GPU. Put hopes on Intel Arc 380 for a card without 6-pin???:confused:
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#4
dorsetknob
"YOUR RMA REQUEST IS CON-REFUSED"
For the moment .....I view this "News" as only a paper (crypto mining ) launch just like the last 3ish
When they are readily available from Etailers and b&m Shops at non scalped prices.
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#5
Dr. Dro
The memory on the 3090 is also rated for 21 Gbps (it is the 3070 Ti, 3080 and 3080 Ti that use slower 19 Gbps chips), it just comes underclocked to give it some headroom as most cards will not go past the ~21.5 Gbps mark unless the memory is actively cooled, power limits are removed (through shunt) and the GPU core voltage juiced quite a bit above what it needs to be, aka it has difficulty handling the 24 devices much in the same way a PC with high density (4x dual rank memory sticks on a dual channel platform for example) has trouble achieving the highest clocks possible.

The key here is these new 2 GB/die memory chips allow this card to clock higher and leave more headroom to the GPU core itself, add this to the hefty increase in the power limit and the remaining 2 SMs, and NV basically threw any and all efficiency out of the window to extract that last 10-15% performance out of GA102. Given how powerful the 3090 is and how scaling between 3080, 3080 Ti and 3090 (68, 80 and 82 SM, respectively) is far from linear, the 3090 Ti is probably even more pointless than the 8800 Ultra used to be back in the day.
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#6
Bomby569
a 3090 card with even hotter memory, this is going to be fun :D
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#7
Tomgang
To bad the rtx 3050 has so high tgp. Else it seems to be a nice replacement for gtx 1650. But given the power consumption, I don't think it will come as a low profile card and that is a recurement. Else I can't use it in my system.

Guess I will just stick to my rtx 3080 and see what rtx 4000 has to offer later in 2022.
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#8
randompeep
docnorthThis 130w 3050 version isn't exactly an entry level GPU, probably it will sit between 1660ti and 2060.
It seems we won't get a 75w card from Nvidia this generation. Even IF a weaker 3050 version reaches final production, most likely it will be a 90(-100)w GPU. Put hopes on Intel Arc 380 for a card without 6-pin???:confused:
who said 75W cards are still a thing ?
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#9
Selaya
they are tho, its called the RTX A2000
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#10
Dr. Dro
Bomby569a 3090 card with even hotter memory, this is going to be fun :D
It will be colder, because there are half the memory devices installed. Instead of 8 Gbit (1 GB) each G6X die has 16 Gbit (2 GB), eliminating the clamshell solution and populating only one side of the PCB - same as the RTX 3080 and 3080 Ti. This also should about halve the memory subsystem's burden on the power budget, which is very high on RTX 3090 hardware (up to 150W at any moment, average of 100W, or about a third to half of all power allowance unless you shunt it).
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#11
bug
Bomby569a 3090 card with even hotter memory, this is going to be fun :D
Eh, just take a look at EVGA's Kingpin version.
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#12
docnorth
randompeepwho said 75W cards are still a thing ?
??
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#13
Chrispy_
3050 at $249 is a joke.
It has 8GB of GDDR6 and even the LHR versions are profitable for mining. The miners will want it, outstripping supply, and then the scalpers will move in.

This is a $500 card within a week of launch, I guarantee it.
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#14
ghazi
I find this 3050 card hilarious. It has the exact specs of the full GA107 GPU but instead uses a hamstrung GA106 with a third of everything disabled. It is really telling as far as yields are concerned, Nvidia somehow makes more money moving huge volumes of these much larger defective chips. I remember some leaks before launch suggesting as much, but the quoted figures (50-60% for GA104 IIRC) were scorned by many.

And then the 3090 Ti. I have no idea who this card is for, but if you measure GPU performance in Watts, I'm sure there's no contender.
docnorthThis 130w 3050 version isn't exactly an entry level GPU, probably it will sit between 1660ti and 2060.
It seems we won't get a 75w card from Nvidia this generation. Even IF a weaker 3050 version reaches final production, most likely it will be a 90(-100)w GPU. Put hopes on Intel Arc 380 for a card without 6-pin???:confused:
A GA107 GPU could easily slot in at 75W. But it seems doubtful, given the nomenclature of this card, for a lower tier model to be released this generation.
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#15
Fluffmeister
They are not even trying now, but then they don't have to. AMD cards are in stock but massively overpriced as well.
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#16
dicobalt
That 3050 costs way too much for what it is. The 1050 Ti was only $150 msrp. Nvidia seems to be in the business of pricing people out of gaming these days.
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#17
oobymach
Yay, even more new cards we can't have thanks to memory shortage, copper foil shortage, chip shortage, rare metal shortage, do they even have the parts to manufacture a prototype?
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#18
Bomby569
oobymachYay, even more new cards we can't have thanks to memory shortage, copper foil shortage, chip shortage, rare metal shortage, do they even have the parts to manufacture a prototype?
BS, Nvidia shipped more cards then ever, it's in their latest earnings report. There is no materials or components shortage, just the crypto madness.
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#19
arni-gx
what, nvidia only released the new rtx 3050 8gb and rtx 3090 ti 24gb......... so, where is it new rtx 3070 ti 16gb, rtx 3080 20gb........??
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#20
Udyr
$250 (fake price) for an X50 GPU. What a time to be a gamer!
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#21
simlife
docnorthThis 130w 3050 version isn't exactly an entry level GPU, probably it will sit between 1660ti and 2060.
It seems we won't get a 75w card from Nvidia this generation. Even IF a weaker 3050 version reaches final production, most likely it will be a 90(-100)w GPU. Put hopes on Intel Arc 380 for a card without 6-pin???:confused:
a 75 w card wouldn't really even be for 1080p gaming amds lower nm and lower power draw card is still 107w. 75w is old and kinda gone might as well bust out a ps4. a old 400 power supply from 12 years ago is kind of above this if you look at that 660ti from all the way from 2012 is 150w 2x what your asking and your asking for crazy and if you want to point out the super low power 1030 it was about 35-40% weaker then the ps4 from 2013 vs the 2017 card
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#22
ModEl4
Strange naming, the logical thing would be 3050ti for 80 T.C. GA107 part (tensor cores) and 3050 for the 64 tensor cores part. Are we going to have in the near future a 3040 with 64 TCs at $199 MSRP maybe or no show for a cut down GA107 part for desktop because there are many coincidences (no cut down Navi 22, high Navi 22 MSRP, no full GA106 on desktop, extremely bad MSRP for 6600XT/6600) and I get a feeling that we may have some price fixing between Nvidia and AMD given the market situation...
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#23
AusWolf
Another cut-out of the GA106 instead of a full GA107? Yields must be terrible!

Also, I guess we can forget about small form factor / fanless options with a 130 W TDP.

Prices will be high due to its 8 GB VRAM as well. Nvidia and AMD have blamed scalpers for the high prices until now, but their MSRP on the 3050 and 6500XT is tragic.

Sounds like a hard pass to me.
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#25
seth1911
UVP

3050 8GB for 249$
vs
6500 XT 4GB with 64 bit for 199$


AMD :kookoo: :kookoo: :kookoo: :kookoo: :kookoo:
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