if this is $50 or under I may get it. I have been in the market for a mini 65% form factor keyboard, but most of them are pricey as ****

@VSG hey, isn't 12ms a little high for a keyboard? I don't much about keyboard latency, can you confirm is 12ms normal?

lynx29if this is $50 or under I may get it. I have been in the market for a mini 65% form factor keyboard, but most of them are pricey as ****

@VSG hey, isn't 12ms a little high for a keyboard? I don't much about keyboard latency, can you confirm is 12ms normal?

$50 or under, not gonna happen mate.
Not even aliexpress has them that cheap.
This one will probably be closer to 100.

ShurikN$50 or under, not gonna happen mate.
Not even aliexpress has them that cheap.
This one will probably be closer to 100.

Due to a pricing error, I got my 60% for 40EUR, the real price was 80EUR. Nothing to complain after learning all those shortcuts and using Fn button much.

Well yeah pricing error, but normally they aren't that cheap. The cheapest I know of are some epomaker ones at 70+ and aliexpress/banggood ones at 50 bucks but without switches and caps...
So like I said the MSRP for this board is not gonna be that cheap. Especially with those somewhat non-standard caps. Would be great if I'm wrong, but I don't have high hopes

ShurikNWell yeah pricing error, but normally they aren't that cheap. The cheapest I know of are some epomaker ones at 70+ and aliexpress/banggood ones at 50 bucks but without switches and caps...
So like I said the MSRP for this board is not gonna be that cheap. Especially with those somewhat non-standard caps. Would be great if I'm wrong, but I don't have high hopes

Yeah I meant just that normally these are pretty expensive. Mine is also a NOS branded which has basically no information online as this seems to be a Nordic importer's own brand.

65% IS the best layout....I gotta have my arrow keys

ShurikN$50 or under, not gonna happen mate.
Not even aliexpress has them that cheap.
This one will probably be closer to 100.

that is there loss then, I will get a better brand for that price. this is capitalism after all

AnarchoPrimitiv65% IS the best layout....I gotta have my arrow keys

After getting used to it, using them via Fn is okay.

For me it's 75%. Arrow keys and F row are a must.

lynx29that is there loss then, I will get a better brand for that price. this is capitalism after all

www.redragonzone.com/collections/keyboard/products/redragon-deimos-k599-2-4g-wired-mechanical-keyboard-1

I just remembered this company exists. They should be cheap.

ShurikNFor me it's 75%. Arrow keys and F row are a must.


www.redragonzone.com/collections/keyboard/products/redragon-deimos-k599-2-4g-wired-mechanical-keyboard-1

I just remembered this company exists. They should be cheap.

I actually was just looking at the corsair cherry mx speed silver 65%, it son sale for $80 right now, not bad. im tempted. i'd rather pay 30 more for proper cherry switches, and i have always wanted some silvers...

I still don't understand why 65% is gaining popularity with gamers.

I use ~ and F1-F4 in most games. As I'm blessed with an ISO layout (UK keyboard) I also have a "split left shift" (backslash is where the right half of the shift key is on an ANSI US layout) so that the pinky of my left hand has three easy keys.

If your argument is that you don't want the right half of your keyboard taking up space when gaming, use a dedicated half-keyboard for gaming. Don't compromise the left half of your keyboard that you need for gaming with a shitty, cramped, layout that's missing keys used by default in most AAA titles.



To me, 65% is too much of a compromise in too many ways, and most of the size you save is depth towards the back of the desk, not width. Who is gaming on such a tiny, cramped little narrow shelf that they need their keyboard to be shorter, front-to-back?!

Chrispy_I still don't understand why 65% is gaining popularity with gamers.

I use ~ and F1-F4 in most games. As I'm blessed with an ISO layout (UK keyboard) I also have a "split left shift" (backslash is where the right half of the shift key is on an ANSI US layout) so that the pinky of my left hand has three easy keys.

If your argument is that you don't want the right half of your keyboard taking up space when gaming, use a dedicated half-keyboard for gaming. Don't compromise the left half of your keyboard that you need for gaming with a shitty, cramped, layout that's missing keys used by default in most AAA titles.



To me, 65% is too much of a compromise in too many ways, and most of the size you save is depth towards the back of the desk, not width. Who is gaming on such a tiny, cramped little narrow shelf that they need their keyboard to be shorter, front-to-back?!

Tried that bottom one of the one handed keyboards. Mine had otemu blue switches I believe, they were so clicky the neighbours complained. Its gathering dust rn. Even in games where you CAN use just one hand to get everywhere, you still want to for example, chat or multitask and then you're missing keys. I've also done the 'double input' game with GTA on PC because controller aim was shit while driving with mouse/kb was equally shit, but no, never again will I fall into these traps. Its not ever something I got or will get used to. Switching is absolute crap during any game.

Ive found a cure-all KB... that doesn't fail or ghost like mechanical boards can, is spill resistant (related to failure on mechanical), is compact, is FLAT and not super high like mechanicals are, which is friendlier on the wrists, types like a dream and has good tactile feedback by combining a scissor switch with a membrane. Bonus points for being similar feel to laptop, it really helps not switching all the time between mech and non mech. Comfort boost.

Best of all, its 45 bucks and so far seems nigh indestructible. It has one drawback. The ctrl/fn keys that are swapped. It took several months for muscle memory to adjust and now I screw up the CTRL button on all Dell laptops :D After numerous mech KBs... I don't think I'll ever get back into them again. I'm not missing anything here.

Also, note the placement of the esc/F keys and ~, everything in comfortable reach. And since they're sized differently you won't mix them up either.

The CTRL+FN swap on Thinkpads has always been a real head-scratcher.
On a thinkpad you can swap it back in the BIOS. As a standalone keyboard that's a deal-breaker, especially for gaming where CTRL is one of the single most important keys, vying for the title of the most important key with e, q, shift, and spacebar

ShurikNFor me it's 75%. Arrow keys and F row are a must.


www.redragonzone.com/collections/keyboard/products/redragon-deimos-k599-2-4g-wired-mechanical-keyboard-1

I just remembered this company exists. They should be cheap.

Got one of these for about 57 USD. been 2 months. satisfied so far.