Wednesday, May 4th 2022
AMD Confirms Zen 4 Dragon Range, Phoenix APUs for 2023
AMD has confirmed its revamped APU strategy will be delivered throughout three different APU line-ups come 2023. While Raphael will take care of AMD's hopes in the desktop space, the company is readying a new, "Dragon Range" lineup of "pinnacle gaming"-oriented APUs, leveraging the company's upcoming Zen 4 architecture, DDR5, and PCIe 5. Dragon Range APUs will feature the "highest core, thread, and cache ever for a mobile gaming CPU" - although AMD stopped just short of confirming exactly what "highest" translates to. To aid in its extreme gaming aspirations, TDP for Dragon Range is set at 55 W - they thus "largely exist in the space where gaming laptops are plugged in the majority of the time," according to AMD director of technical marketing Robert Hallock.
Another APU family, Phoenix, will be aimed at thin and lights with a penchant for gaming. Phoenix too will leverage AMD's Zen 4 core, DDR5 memory subsystem, and PCIe 5 interfaces. Being aimed at thin and lights, Phoenix APUs are set for a 35 W - 45 W operating range. Interestingly, AMD didn't share any other details - more crucially, the graphics architecture that's to be employed in these high-performance APUs.
With RDNA3 products hitting the ground running sooner rather than later, it remains to be seen if AMD will take Intel's increased competition in the graphics space as a hint to provide the latest graphics architectures in its APU offerings, or if the company will keep a steadfast improvement to performance as it catches up the APU graphics IP to the latest and greatest.
Source:
The Verge
Another APU family, Phoenix, will be aimed at thin and lights with a penchant for gaming. Phoenix too will leverage AMD's Zen 4 core, DDR5 memory subsystem, and PCIe 5 interfaces. Being aimed at thin and lights, Phoenix APUs are set for a 35 W - 45 W operating range. Interestingly, AMD didn't share any other details - more crucially, the graphics architecture that's to be employed in these high-performance APUs.
18 Comments on AMD Confirms Zen 4 Dragon Range, Phoenix APUs for 2023
lack of competent government to make laws to prevent this kind of stuff is the problem. there should be a 1 year moratorium on all third party sellers for new items costing $299.99 or more. and a limit 1 per household enforced by law
If the availability is going to be a problem i wonder how much fault is it from bots/third party resellers and how much from AMD's incompetence to secure N5 capacity if the below is true:
www.digitimes.com/news/a20220503PD216/intel-4-tsmc.html
Still, I wouldn't say no to a thin-and-light (convertible? Yes please!) with a 35W APU with a honking great iGPU - 20-24 CUs, high clocks and quad channel LPDDR5? One can dream, I suppose.
Though I think the dGPU-less Asus X13 might be out? It isn't sold in my region, but AFAIK it launched alongside the RTX 3050/Ti variants.
I suspect it's a paper launch :D
Looking at Asus' US site, there doesn't seem to be a dGPU-less SKU there (but five with one!), unfortunately. The Swedish site is a bit more convoluted, at first only listing a single 3050-equipped SKU in the overview, but this links to a model series overview with three listings - 680m (GV301RA), 3050 (GV301RC) and 3050 Ti (GV301RE). So I guess if you can find a GV301RA SKU in your region, that should be dGPU-less? There are sadly none shown in any price comparison listings here - there are only two SKUs there, 3050 Ti and 3050 Ti + 6850M eGPU - so I guess they're rolling that model out in just a few areas, at least to begin with.
Australia is as physically far away from me as it's possible to get without using spacecraft.
The Dragon range is clearly their attempt to take on Intel's high power "so-called" mobile CPU's like the 12900HK or actually the 13900HK next year.
That's pretty cool. Seems like 35W might be the sweet spot for 680M graphics which means the 6800HS might be a viable/better option if I can find a 14 or 15" slim laptop with a dual-fan cooler that handles 35W TDP.
www.notebookcheck.net/Integrated-graphics-showdown-AMD-Radeon-680M-makes-Intel-Iris-Xe-look-like-child-s-play.618595.0.html
That's a 6900HS, and far too few tests for my liking, but still quite impressive - close to the 1650 in lighter loads, though it pulls away as render complexity increases.