LenneTruly some ugly mismarketing. I feel bad for those who doesn't know that much about computers, and gets the cheaper one just because "12GB is fine for me" and the card is actually way slower than the similarly named one.

SOAREVERSORI think the last nvidia GPU I bought that I didn't feel fucked after buying was the 8800gtx SLI config. The last GPU I bought that I felt good about and really happy with the price was a 6800gt for a second rig. The first rig had dual 6800 ultras and was really nice but that 6800gt only took one power connector, was single slot and spat out Doom 3 and HL2 at 1600 verticle just fine. 9700 pro was also a gem. Then it goes back to glide graphics and good lord what a mess.

TheoneandonlyMrKAd106 afaik not these.

Don't like this personally and they're is likely to be a performance disparity between the 12/16GB parts, how could there not be?!.

64KThe 4080 will be a cluster-fuck.

1d10tWas meant for sarcasm but continue on :D

bugBecause of the label on the box? Sure.

64KNo, because the 4080 will not only have two different VRAM sizes but also will have different amounts of shaders.

64KNo, because the 4080 will not only have two different VRAM sizes but also will have different amounts of shaders.

oxrufiioxoI personally don't really care as anyone with half a brain should be able to do their own research on buying a likely 700+ usd gpu.... My worry is Nvidia is doing this to hit the 699 usd price point with the 12GB version while the 16GB varient (The real 4080) will be closer to 999 usd.

64Kimo most gamers don't visit tech sites so they won't even know the differences. It's like the two 1060s. Even game developers didn't distinguish the two in their system requirements at first.

oxrufiioxoI personally don't really care as anyone with half a brain should be able to do their own research on buying a likely 700+ usd gpu.... My worry is Nvidia is doing this to hit the 699 usd price point with the 12GB version while the 16GB varient (The real 4080) will be closer to 999 usd.

TheoneandonlyMrKAnd we all know how reliable they're MSRP is eh.

oxrufiioxoPersonally those gamers are better off on a PS5/SeriesX

64KThere are tens of million PC gamers out there. The word is already out here but no mention on the PCgamer site

oxrufiioxoPeople who can't even type what's the difference between X gpu vs x gpu into google have bigger problems than Nvidia choice to segment it's products. For those who don't even know what a gpu is ignorance is bliss I guess.

64KBut there's no reason for the uniformed to question the difference in the 4080s except of course for the price. That is what Nvidia is counting on and the developers of games will just say 4080 in requirements for 4K

I don't even know if the differences will even show up on sites like PCGamer. Their tech editor is mostly clueless about tech. He once stated in a review on a GTX 690 that it would give better 4K performance because it had twice as much VRAM.

oxrufiioxoI actually liked the GTX 690 it was a pretty neat card I preferred my sli 680s but only taking up one alot was pretty cool. Tear for the death of sli although I can't even imagine doing it with my 3080ti :laugh:

I only see the two 4080s as being an issue if they are priced the same or at least very close in price. I doubt that will be the case the specs are pretty different. I'm also not convinced this isn't an oem only varient where 300+ watt cards are a bad idea as it is.

This isn't the same situation as with the 1030 that came in both ddr4 and Gddr5 varients that costed about the same and performed very different that preyed on the market that would be most impacted by this.

TheoneandonlyMrKIsn't it.

Because I expect the 16GB to be out and reviewed first.

Then they ship the LESS performance part with increased customer excitement for the slightly cheaper one.
Hopefully W1zzard will straighten it all out for people, but I will shit in the thread if I am right and the 12GB is slightly delayed.

Because that's a scum tactic.

oxrufiioxoNot really sure what Nvidia is thinking but going by the specs I expect these cards to be 200+ usd apart making them hard to confuse. They'd look better just calling the 12GB varient the 4070ti and could price it around $650 if it's indeed faster or similar than a 3090 and look good. People smarter than me when it comes to marketing a product are making these decisions so if they thinm people are stupid enough to confuse them I guess it must be true.

None of these companies are our friend they are simply here to make money so really it comes down to how good a product both varients are not what they're named hopefully they both end up decent products without highly inflated prices vs 30 series.

TheoneandonlyMrKPaul's hardware mentioned a very good point.

The case's people have now, a lot of them are not going to work well with 800watts under load in use.

There's going to be a glut of random restarts etc too, since many will chance they're future proof 850watt PSU can do it, and some can't.

P4-630If the performance is there, I have no issues with it, even consuming less power....

evernessinceThe problem lies in that it's clearly a tactic design to take advantage of customer exceptions. The name would imply that it lands close of the 4080 16GB but rumors suggest that it's more like a 4070 Ti. If the performance it too far from the 4080 then the naming is misleading plain and simple.

In addition, it sets Nvidia up for pulling more shenanigans in the future. PC gamers might have to worry about 4080s with significant differences in performance despite the name suggesting they are the reasonably the same. If people don't flag this now there's nothing stopping Nvidia from bifurcating other SKUs and potentially increasing the gap in performance between said SKUs.

I really hope PC gamers put their foot down because this kind of trend only hurts consumers.