Tuesday, April 18th 2023

ASUS ROG Ally Could End Up With AMD Ryzen 7840U APU

Since the ASUS ROG Ally has already shown up on certification sites, it is not surprising that the first specifications have been leaked, including the information that it could come with AMD's Ryzen 7840U Phoenix APU. When the product number has leaked online, it is easy to find traces of it moving between ASUS headquarters. So far, the ASUS ROG Ally has been spotted at the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) site with two product codes, the RC71L and the RC71X, which could easily be different memory and storage configurations or even a different color.

While these pre-productions samples shipped around clearly show that the ASUS ROG Ally is powered by AMD's Ryzen 7 7840U APU, the company did mention a "custom" APU, which means that the final product might end up with something different, maybe even just a higher clock. In case you missed earlier leaks, as the AMD Ryzen 7040 U-series is yet to be officially announced, the Ryzen 7 7840U fits into AMD's thin and light segment with TDP ranging from 15 W to 28 W. It is rumored to be an 8-core/16-thread Zen 4 CPU with a 3.3 GHz base clock and features AMD Radeon 780M RDNA 3 architecture GPU with 12 Compute Units (CU), or a total of 768 stream processors. Of course, ASUS might have a different deal with AMD and could use a completely different APU for the final product, but so far, pre-production samples show the Ryzen 7 7840U. ASUS has previously announced that the ROG Ally will be available worldwide and could launch sooner than expected.
Source: Videocardz
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26 Comments on ASUS ROG Ally Could End Up With AMD Ryzen 7840U APU

#1
R0H1T
So it's 7480u or 7840u :wtf:
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#2
ixi
AMD > Intel any day, anywhere. Cool, cool. Now I need this apu for 100e so that I can build custom light gaming pc.
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#3
KrazyT
R0H1TSo it's 7480u or 7840u :wtf:
7840u is showned on the 3rd pic.
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#4
R0H1T
Check the title.
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#5
Daven
R0H1TCheck the title.
Looks like the title and first sentence is a typo. I think its 7840U.
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#6
R0H1T
Yes that's why I posted that, here as well ~
GFreemanAMD's Ryzen 7480U Phoenix APU
Minor typos.
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#7
dj-electric
I expect from now on until NDA lifts on details to be many leaks by people who can't bother waiting a week to publish things shown. The internet really moves at the speed of light
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#8
Daven
R0H1TYes that's why I posted that, here as well ~


Minor typos.
I wonder how fast a typo in a story like this gets linked through the internet creating a short half life for a nonexisting CPU.
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#9
R0H1T
Many radioactive isotopes have shorter (half) lives & lots of bugs, microbes et al :D
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#10
TheinsanegamerN
R0H1TSo it's 7480u or 7840u :wtf:
It's AMD, so its probably the 7840u7480v2rdna3/2/19420.

It makes perfect sense if you use AMD's decoder ring, now only $9.99 with a box of honey nut cherrios!
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#11
Camm
That is pretty well much exactly the APU I want in a handheld. Now to see if ASUS prices it with some sanity.
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#12
Mindweaver
Moderato®™
This looks interesting but I doubt I would switch from my Steam deck to the Ally. It not having track pads really kills it for me.
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#13
wNotyarD
CammThat is pretty well much exactly the APU I want in a handheld. Now to see if ASUS prices it with some sanity.
Asus (a ROG at that) with sane pricing? Humanity can dream...
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#14
Dragokar
CammThat is pretty well much exactly the APU I want in a handheld. Now to see if ASUS prices it with some sanity.
It is ASUS....
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#15
Nordic
MindweaverThis looks interesting but I doubt I would switch from my Steam deck to the Ally. It not having track pads really kills it for me.
I thought the track pads were dumb until I had a steam deck in hand. I don't feel like the steam deck lacks in performance either
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#16
TechLurker
CammThat is pretty well much exactly the APU I want in a handheld. Now to see if ASUS prices it with some sanity.
ASUS did claim that it will be price competitive with the Steam Deck. Just not which version of the Steam Deck. Given the planned performance, features, and ASUS tax, it would probably compete with the middle or top end SKUs of the Steam Deck.

So I'd ballpark it at 529~649 USD (current standard pricing of both the middle and top SD SKUs), given that from the two early previews, it might have many of the same features as the high-end Steam Deck SKU. Specifically, a high-capacity storage and a better screen. That's on top of a custom-binned APU (probably a 7840U that can operate at a higher 35w vs the normal maximum 28w) and setup that's already superior to the top Deck SKU, numbers-wise.

What remains to be seen is if the ROG Ally would be as customizable/repair-friendly as the Steam Deck is (such as upgrading the joysticks to Hall effect versions or upgrading the storage NVMe). If ASUS really hopes to penetrate the market, releasing the CAD files and repair guides would go a long way to rivaling the Steam Deck.
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#17
wNotyarD
Did Asus, by the way, say anything about the Ally being compatible with the desktop dock made for the ROG phones?
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#18
TheinsanegamerN
wNotyarDDid Asus, by the way, say anything about the Ally being compatible with the desktop dock made for the ROG phones?
It uses the ROG dock used on the Z and X13 laptops.
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#19
enb141
MindweaverThis looks interesting but I doubt I would switch from my Steam deck to the Ally. It not having track pads really kills it for me.
To me is the opposite, track pads put me away from the Steam Deck also because no Windows.
NordicI thought the track pads were dumb until I had a steam deck in hand. I don't feel like the steam deck lacks in performance either
I don't think they are dumb, but they are placed in where I want the D Pad / Analog Stick.
TechLurkerASUS did claim that it will be price competitive with the Steam Deck. Just not which version of the Steam Deck. Given the planned performance, features, and ASUS tax, it would probably compete with the middle or top end SKUs of the Steam Deck.

So I'd ballpark it at 529~649 USD (current standard pricing of both the middle and top SD SKUs), given that from the two early previews, it might have many of the same features as the high-end Steam Deck SKU. Specifically, a high-capacity storage and a better screen. That's on top of a custom-binned APU (probably a 7840U that can operate at a higher 35w vs the normal maximum 28w) and setup that's already superior to the top Deck SKU, numbers-wise.

What remains to be seen is if the ROG Ally would be as customizable/repair-friendly as the Steam Deck is (such as upgrading the joysticks to Hall effect versions or upgrading the storage NVMe). If ASUS really hopes to penetrate the market, releasing the CAD files and repair guides would go a long way to rivaling the Steam Deck.
The leaked price was $650, so I expect that price as starting point.

I was thinking the same, at least for the analog sticks, able them to mode and use hall sensor instead of those crappy ones that drift would be cool, if not probably the Ayaneo won't be a bad option after all.
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#20
TechLurker
enb141The leaked price was $650, so I expect that price as starting point.
So inline with the Deck's top SKU then, +/- 1 USD. Not surprising, given the performance expected. Certainly better than some other former potential Steam Deck rivals that were more powerful but also more expensive.

If I hadn't already bought the top end Deck and modded it out the aft, I'd have definitely gone for the Ally instead; as it would do most of what I modded, stock. Specifically, improved cooling (had to cut out a space on the backplate to slap on some heatsinks and a 40mm fan), and running certain programs for more control over the cooling fan (Ally has built-in fan control software based on the early preview videos).
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#21
Gooigi's Ex
enb141To me is the opposite, track pads put me away from the Steam Deck also because no Windows.


I don't think they are dumb, but they are placed in where I want the D Pad / Analog Stick.



The leaked price was $650, so I expect that price as starting point.

I was thinking the same, at least for the analog sticks, able them to mode and use hall sensor instead of those crappy ones that drift would be cool, if not probably the Ayaneo won't be a bad option after all.
THANK YOU! To me, the trackpads are in the way of the controller and does not function well as a mouse. Maybe better than other handhelds but not enough for me to extensively use them for games. So it’s just a waste of space that can used for something else
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#22
Mindweaver
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NordicI thought the track pads were dumb until I had a steam deck in hand. I don't feel like the steam deck lacks in performance either
Yeah, I like the track pads more than my Steam Controller's track pad and my old Vive wands. I really thought that it would be the only part of the steam deck that I would not like and by my surprise I like it. I also like the track pad on the ps5 controller.
enb141To me is the opposite, track pads put me away from the Steam Deck also because no Windows.


I don't think they are dumb, but they are placed in where I want the D Pad / Analog Stick.



The leaked price was $650, so I expect that price as starting point.

I was thinking the same, at least for the analog sticks, able them to mode and use hall sensor instead of those crappy ones that drift would be cool, if not probably the Ayaneo won't be a bad option after all.
Have you tried the track pads on the Steam deck? Also, no windows? You can install windows on it no problem. It's basically just a handheld pc.
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#23
Nordic
Gooigi's ExTHANK YOU! To me, the trackpads are in the way of the controller and does not function well as a mouse. Maybe better than other handhelds but not enough for me to extensively use them for games. So it’s just a waste of space that can used for something else
You can get incredible aim with the track pads and gyro. The track pads move your aim 90% while your gyro is used to actually get on target. It takes some configuration for each game so it isn't beginner friendly.

The steam decks control set up is designed to work with any game. Some games do not work well with track pads. Others are near unplayable without them.
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#24
enb141
MindweaverYeah, I like the track pads more than my Steam Controller's track pad and my old Vive wands. I really thought that it would be the only part of the steam deck that I would not like and by my surprise I like it. I also like the track pad on the ps5 controller.


Have you tried the track pads on the Steam deck? Also, no windows? You can install windows on it no problem. It's basically just a handheld pc.
I don't because I already know that I'm not gonna use them.

Why? I don't play games that doesn't support gamepads, some exceptions of course (RTS, FPS, MOBA), those ones I use a mouse and a keypad with thumb D Pad (Razer Orbweaver).

So back to respond to your question, I'm not gonna use it because I'm a gamepad / arcade stick / mouse + keypad gamer.
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#25
Gooigi's Ex
MindweaverYeah, I like the track pads more than my Steam Controller's track pad and my old Vive wands. I really thought that it would be the only part of the steam deck that I would not like and by my surprise I like it. I also like the track pad on the ps5 controller.


Have you tried the track pads on the Steam deck? Also, no windows? You can install windows on it no problem. It's basically just a handheld pc.
Yes I have. Used it for WoW and Rainbow Six Siege and had the worse experience. It takes the Steam Controller and made it worse and this me using the Steam Deck for a week. The trackpads are in the way especially playing fighting games. The D-pad is ok for fighting games but I have a controller for that. I really want to get the AYANEO Geek because of the D-pad but it’s expensive
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