This makes it clear the 16GB version was not planned. How long did they think people would swallow 8GB cards? Really poor prediction.

If only they'd release these FE cards worldwide instead of selling them exclusively to Americans through a single store chain...

Dr. DroIf only they'd release these FE cards worldwide instead of selling them exclusively to Americans through a single store chain...

You've been able to buy them in Taiwan and Europe as well
geizhals.eu/?fs=nvidia+founders+edition&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

mamaThis makes it clear the 16GB version was not planned. How long did they think people would swallow 8GB cards? Really poor prediction.

its going to be sold out instantly I predict, because consumers are stupid af.

Dr. DroIf only they'd release these FE cards worldwide instead of selling them exclusively to Americans through a single store chain...

If only you wouldn't want to support this monopoly full control apple wannabee move from Nvidia....

ZoneDymoIf only you wouldn't want to support this monopoly full control apple wannabee move from Nvidia....

I don't think Nvidia would ever stop licensing AIB designs anyway. Most people prefer them, after all. But their first-party GPUs are top notch, as are AMD's first-party "MBA" cards (7900 XTX notwithstanding, but they fixed that :laugh:)

TheLostSwedeYou've been able to buy them in Taiwan and Europe as well
geizhals.eu/?fs=nvidia+founders+edition&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

That just leaves us south american barbarians, someday we'll be worthy I guess. FE cards aren't released here and they withdrew the Titan brand GPUs completely when they stopped licensing them to AIBs - not even that consideration they had with us.

mamaThis makes it clear the 16GB version was not planned. How long did they think people would swallow 8GB cards? Really poor prediction.

I see people repeating this as a gospel, but this is not the first SKUs that didn't get the FE version.

According to Best Buy, the 4060 Ti 8GB FE model has a $100.00 price premium, which means you're paying the same price as a 4060 Ti 16GB model, $499.00. :mad:

I guess they can't be accused of competing with their AIB partners.

In a world where 32Gb density is not readily available 128 bit means 8GB. AIBs took the opportunity to profit on the fears of people that 8GB is not enough. 8GB card is not bad for lower details. it's named wrong and priced even worse.

4060 Ti that's the equivalent of 2080 Ti right, so it could be 12GB, none of the above 8/16 options make any sense.

N/AIn a world where 32Gb density is not readily available 128 bit means 8GB. AIBs took the opportunity to profit on the fears of people that 8GB is not enough. 8GB card is not bad for lower details. it's named wrong and priced even worse.

4060 Ti that's the equivalent of 2080 Ti right, so it could be 12GB, none of the above 8/16 options make any sense.

With this processor, 12 GB would only be achievable with a 96-bit interface with six chips in a clamshell configuration. I would argue that is simply mad on this segment.

TheLostSwedeYou've been able to buy them in Taiwan and Europe as well
geizhals.eu/?fs=nvidia+founders+edition&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk

They're even sold in Poland now.

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DarkswordAccording to Best Buy, the 4060 Ti 8GB FE model has a $100.00 price premium, which means you're paying the same price as a 4060 Ti 16GB model, $499.00. :mad:

Sadly it is happening last 4 or 5 years with FE :).

ChomiqThey're even sold in Poland now.

Poland is not in Europe any more?

TheLostSwedePoland is not in Europe any more?

Not according to AMD direct.

And "In Europe" is very broad statement seeing how FE variants are only sold in something like 5 or 6 countries in Europe.

Dr. DroWith this processor, 12 GB would only be achievable with a 96-bit interface with six chips in a clamshell configuration. I would argue that is simply mad on this segment.

Not this chip, a heavily cut down AD104 would be fine. But that would infringe on 4070, so no point. But the fact is AD106 exists, is 128 bit and 8GB is too little, 16 GB too much. So everything is the way it is, the only thing that is wrong is the pc community can't keep up with the price.

mamaThis makes it clear the 16GB version was not planned. How long did they think people would swallow 8GB cards? Really poor prediction.

Really? The way everyone's been swallowing whatever Nvidia serves and asking for seconds for years makes Nvidia's prediction perfectly reasonable. We may see a lot of people complaining in these comments sections, but I guarantee those very same people will be buying 4060s and 4060 tis or some other Nvidia product, after all, based on the numbers alone there'san 80% chance theyll end up buying Nvidia no matter how little theyre getting for their money.....Nvidia will be rewarded again for their actions, and with the RTX 5000 series, they'll be selling what should be a 5060 as a 5070ti for $900 - $1000 with the only performance improvements coming almost entirely from software manipulation (just look at the 3060ti vs the 4060ti in pure raster, its a trend thatll only continue)....and Nvidia will be rewarded again....rinse and repeat.

ChomiqAnd "In Europe" is very broad statement seeing how FE variants are only sold in something like 5 or 6 countries in Europe.

Yup, they are also not sold in my country.
If I really wanted a FE card cause whatever reasons then I would have to look up my usual go to second hand marketplace and find one there since they do show up there from various sources.

rainzorI see people repeating this as a gospel, but this is not the first SKUs that didn't get the FE version.

yhea, just like the 4080 12GB who was later rebranded as a 4070Ti. (And it's totally not because Nvidia anticipated that it would get bad reception, but wanted to try and see if they could pull that off :D)

DarkswordAccording to Best Buy, the 4060 Ti 8GB FE model has a $100.00 price premium, which means you're paying the same price as a 4060 Ti 16GB model, $499.00. :mad:

4060 Ti 8GB version is DOA already at $400. In EU it will cost 439€. Seriously - buying 8GB card on 2023 for 400+

Nvidia should "unlaunch" this abomination and make the 16GB version it's replacement at the same price.

Dr. DroIf only they'd release these FE cards worldwide instead of selling them exclusively to Americans through a single store chain...

We get them in Canada as well, and through Future Shop... Sorry, Best Buy. Of course it seems as if we get less than the proportional stock per our population compared to the States. It's anecdotal but probably true.

Dr. DroI don't think Nvidia would ever stop licensing AIB designs anyway. Most people prefer them, after all. But their first-party GPUs are top notch, as are AMD's first-party "MBA" cards (7900 XTX notwithstanding, but they fixed that :laugh:)
That just leaves us south american barbarians, someday we'll be worthy I guess. FE cards aren't released here and they withdrew the Titan brand GPUs completely when they stopped licensing them to AIBs - not even that consideration they had with us.

Am I the only one who kinda misses the blower style reference cards too (Nvidia not AMD, those were L-O-U-D)?
I freaking loved my GTX 780, it was quiet, kept all the hot air out of my case, and it just looked sexy.

As for regional stuff, yea that does stink.
In this case at least you can take solace in the fact that a reference 8GB 4060 Ti is a steaming pile of hot garbage.

mamaThis makes it clear the 16GB version was not planned. How long did they think people would swallow 8GB cards? Really poor prediction.

i doubt having different capacity vram modules changes anything at all in the card, that should be the exact same pcb

mamaThis makes it clear the 16GB version was not planned. How long did they think people would swallow 8GB cards? Really poor prediction.

Is there a 16 gig 4070ti coming?

Crazy they made same error 2 gen's in a row.

DarkswordAccording to Best Buy, the 4060 Ti 8GB FE model has a $100.00 price premium, which means you're paying the same price as a 4060 Ti 16GB model, $499.00. :mad:

I don't think so.



Looking at the Q&A on the site, it looks like when it initially posted it was set to $499.00 and was corrected after.

Good, I'm glad they updated it.