Friday, January 5th 2024
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D and 5000GT Chips Start Selling in Europe
The AMD Socket AM4 platform is still alive and kicking, with AMD releasing new processor models in its 7th year. Many of these chips started selling online in Europe. The Ryzen 7 5700X3D is a slightly lower clocked version of the 5800X3D, which for many of those still on AM4 is the final upgrade to their platform. The 5800X3D may be based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture, but thanks to its 3D Vertical Cache technology, offers gaming performance comparable to the Core i9-12900K "Alder Lake," making even 7-year old AM4 gaming desktops contemporary. To cash in on this exact market, AMD released a more cost-effective option, the Ryzen 7 5700X3D.
The 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread Socket AM4 processor that features 96 MB of L3 cache thanks to the 3D V-cache technology, just like the 5800X3D, but comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.10 GHz, compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D. Store listings do not mention its TDP or base frequency. The 5700X3D is being listed at 271€ including taxes, or about 15-20% cheaper than the 5800X3D. A word of caution when choosing the 5700X3D would be its close to non-existent overclocking headroom, so this probably isn't a chip that you can manually overclock to performance levels of a 5800X3D while saving some 40€ on the side.
AMD also updated the lower end of its Socket AM4 product stack with the introduction of the new Ryzen 5 5600GT and Ryzen 5 5500GT. The two are spruced up (faster) versions of the current 5600G and 5500 APUs, and are based on the 7 nm "Cezanne" monolithic silicon. Both feature 6-core/12-thread CPUs based on the "Zen 3" microarchitecture, with 512 KB of L2 cache per core, and a 16 MB shared L3 cache. Both are further configured with a Radeon Vega iGPU with 7 CU (448 stream processors). The 5600GT features a maximum CPU boost frequency of 4.60 GHz, compared to the 4.40 GHz of the older 5600G. The 5500GT comes with the same 4.40 GHz maximum CPU boost as the 5600G, but with a lower CPU base frequency of 3.60 GHz, compared to the 3.90 GHz of the 5600G. The 5500GT is being listed at an attractive 138€, and the 5600GT at 186€.
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The 5700X3D is an 8-core/16-thread Socket AM4 processor that features 96 MB of L3 cache thanks to the 3D V-cache technology, just like the 5800X3D, but comes with a maximum boost frequency of 4.10 GHz, compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D. Store listings do not mention its TDP or base frequency. The 5700X3D is being listed at 271€ including taxes, or about 15-20% cheaper than the 5800X3D. A word of caution when choosing the 5700X3D would be its close to non-existent overclocking headroom, so this probably isn't a chip that you can manually overclock to performance levels of a 5800X3D while saving some 40€ on the side.
59 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D and 5000GT Chips Start Selling in Europe
Van Gogh (Zen2 4C/8T with RDNA2) would not be well received either, due to the old CPU core and low core count.
So what would you suggest AMD should do? A new APU chip for AM4 with a DDR4 memory controller is unlikely to bring in a justifiable ROI for AMD.
It's also questionable how much better RDNA2/3 would actually be, being limited by the much lower DDR4 bandwidth compared to DDR5.
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Also Vegas are on the chopping block, so good luck with soon to be, if not already e-waste of APUs:
www.anandtech.com/show/21126/amd-reduces-ongoing-driver-support-for-polaris-and-vega-gpus
I guess it's better to recycle them like that than dump into the landfill though.
5700X-175€ vs 7700X-365€
motherboard am4-145€ vs am5-260€
RAM ddr4-39€ vs ddr5-77€
AM4 359€ vs AM5 702€
Choice for gaming is clear! 2K is slower 8%, 4K 1% slover. For 220€ difference you can picka lot faster gpu (7600vs 7700xt ) ~35% more powerfull
Other than that, I agree.
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I might be tempted with a 5700x3d for £200 any more and it's not worth it compared to the 5800x3d
Even with DDR5 I'm pretty sure that memory speed is holding back performance by a significant margin.
By how much is something we will probably see pretty soon, especially in case the Phoenix IMC allows higher DDR5 clocks, similar to what Renoir/Cezanne could do with DDR4.
Btw at Christmas period i seen 278 for 5800x3d i dont remember overclocker or scan.
What's next, the R9-5950X3D? :roll:
When AMD released the R9-7900X3D and R9-7950X3D, I ripped them a new one because the existence of those two CPUs struck me as both greedy and cynical.
The biggest issue I had with the release of the 7950x3d and 7900x3d was that they held back the 7800x3d by a month to capitalize on those that couldn't wait to have the newest and sell as many of those two chips that they may not have if they hadn't staggered the release. I think they could have had a real winner with the 7950x3d had they done the 3d v-cache on both CCDs.
I still have several machines in our student CAD lab with FirePro v3900's running on windows 10/11. They haven't seen a driver update since late 2015, but that does not make them broken or unusable. It will be the same with these. Until the driver model windows uses changes, these will still be functional gpu's for many years to come. Play latest AAA games, no. Let Linda in accounting send an email, view her Excel sheets, and play solitaire when on a conference call, YES!