Chinese announcement before the American one?

claylomaxSo $700

phanbueyIm in this boat too $599 minimum. $649+ likely.

You guys are funny. A 33 - 55 % price hike?

I know the price for the 7800X3D is higher now, but why would it get a higher MSRP than that one had? Nothing points to this one being insanely faster.
What do you think would happen with the 7800X3D prices when going out of stock while being so popular?

You do know that most of the other Zen5 models sells like crap, right? AMD wants to sell loads of these, and that won't happen with such prices. It's not like they're even that expensive to make.

5800X3D MSRP: $450
7800X3D MSRP: $450
9800X3D MSRP: <$500

The price for the non-3D models have been adjusted down since the introduction of 3D, not the other way around. (I skipped 5700X and 7700 deliberately, those weren't part of the first launches, and besides the 9700X have gotten the 105 W treatment now.)

5800X MSRP: $450
7700X MSRP: $400
9700X MSRP: $360

The dual CCD 3D's might be a different thing, tho. They might be more expensive this time around, but that's still months away.

It's called skimming the cream. Like others have said, Intel did this for decades while they led. Start high then lower the price later after the impatient have paid the most.

Hell, it's the normal practice in every captive market.

claylomaxIt's going to be faster than a 285K in gaming, so AMD needs to price this cpu accordingly.
So $700

phanbueyIm in this boat too $599 minimum. $649+ likely.

They also want to make up for the absolute doggo non-X3D sales.

7800X3D is currently selling at $500, they're not going to price below that.

Guys, your falling for the con that Intel, AMD, nVidia have and that are all STILL been playing, a lot of you need to stop doing that. For exmple In the Uk, the 7800X3D released in 2022 for £450, when you factor inflation since then, thats only £496. So At most, the 9800X3D absolutly CANNOT be more than £496, but realistically needs to be a lot less, as in the 9700X is only £309 right now.

So the break down should be roughly -

Zen5 -

• 9700X - £309 - this will hit £300 or less due to the 7700x
• 9800X3D - £350
• 9900X - £399
• 9900X3D - £450
• 9950X - £599 - this is already over priced, just like the 9700x was, needs to be more like £500
• 9950X3D - £650 - same as above, needs to be more like £550/600

Zen4 -

• 7700X - £250 - this matches the 9700X in every metric.
• 7800X3D - £350 - ignore the currently artifically inflated pricing of £420,
• 7900X - £320
• 7900X3D - £399
• 7950X - £440
• 7950X3D - £570

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user556It's called skimming the cream. Like others have said, Intel did this for decades while they led. Start high then lower the price later after the impatient have paid the most.

Hell, it's the normal practice in every captive market.

We're past sweeping arguments here. AMD starts at $450, and yes, after that they go lower but much faster than one would expect. Not like anyone would call $450 high by this point, given the history.

SL2We're past sweeping arguments here.

Everything else is a crap shoot.

user556Everything else is a crap shoot.

Well that's the fun right, right?

TPU can't just be about education, facts, and sane people.

So we're not past anything then.

user556So we're not past anything then.

Sweeping arguments and MSRP guesses are different things lol

Probably a mediocre 10% improvement on the 7800X3D with a 20% increase in price. You might get another 2-3% performance out of it when overclocking extra lousy 200Mhz over boost clocks.

This is just how AMD rolls lately.

QuicksThis is just how AMD rolls lately.

I've already shown that they haven't. :rolleyes:

SL2I've already shown that they haven't. :rolleyes:

Well let's hope for the best, not really optimistic about the launch after the 9700 review. Prices here never reduced even after AMD dropped the MSRP after launch of the 9xxx series, the damage was already done.

SL2Sweeping arguments and MSRP guesses are different things lol

So we're still not past anything then.

You trolls saying this will cost more than 500 usd are mentally deranged, in fact this should cost no more than $399 and we have seen the 7800x3d going as low as 300 usd in some retailers 3 months ago. The reason scalpers flourish is because you trolls overpay for things and then blame companies for overcharging, stop overpaying then you will see the price that is meant to be.

MetroidThe reason scalpers flourish is because you trolls overpay for things and then blame companies for overcharging, stop overpaying then you will see the price that is meant to be.

Not to mention they're out of stock. A fact that most FUD spreaders seem to ignore. Scalpers can't make their business run properly if there's enough chips available.


AMD launched 9000 which made no sense compared to 7000 that was widely available and chepaer. AMD doesn't want to repeat that mistake so the 7800X3D is leaving the market, for now or forever.

Supply runs dry, prices go up because it's popular, but no, it must be AMD preparing for its most insane price hike in history.

user556So we're still not past anything then.

You're clearly not lol. Now give me another vague reply, I can go all day.

all day long.

user556all day long.

Long day huh

Thank you för you're prof reding.

Just moving on down to the level of the conversation of course.

user556Just moving on down to the level of the conversation of course.

I take it that you won't buy this one? I'll probably wait for Zen6, or if Intel will have something good.

I wonder if AMD changed their initial goals that was getting higher margin and are really going to take decision that lead to higher market share. The fact that they release the better selling CPU that is cheaper first speak loudly to me.

If they want to turn the corner and stop to be always the runner up and really become the market leader, they have to change strategy. They are no longer a company on the verge of bankruptcy.

Lets hope zen 3D is more impressive than the normal zen 5 cause they did not live up to my expectations.

So far i am not in a hurry to replace my zen 3 cpu's

QuicksProbably a mediocre 10% improvement on the 7800X3D with a 20% increase in price. You might get another 2-3% performance out of it when overclocking extra lousy 200Mhz over boost clocks.

This is just how AMD rolls lately.

Latest performance leaks showed only 11% improvement, so you could be right. Which is also why I think it will be priced at $449 and 7800x3d discontinued.

evernessinceUnless X3D brings 30%+ performance that's simply not going to happen.

That's 7950X3D / 9950X3D price and one can simply enable prefer cache in the BIOS to get within 1-2% of the single CCD chip.

The price for the 7800X3D has temporarily spiked to around $500 (currently sitting at 473 on amazon), that's not what the market is willing to pay as on ongoing basis from here on out. The price will likely drop back to where it was previously, $350 - $320.

A huge reason for the 7800X3D's and 5800X3D's popularity is their pricing. Some people seem to be vastly over-estimating what most of the market is willing to pay for an 8-core CPU based on nothing more than surge pricing that represents less than 1% of the product's pricing history.

I have a 7800X3D and $500 would have been a dealbreaker, let lone $600 or $650. That's just nuts. I could have gotten a 7950X3D for $430 on sale. Heck $450 is high for the 8 core X3D part IMO, that price already has the "fastest gaming CPU" tax baked in. I would absolutely buy the 16 core CPU or go Intel if they significantly raise prices without massive performance increases.

I agree, my comfort zone ends at around 400,-... and then it has to be a top end CPU, which just so happens to be the case. I had hoped the X3D would drop to 300,- eventually but neh, even the 5800X3D never really got there proper. That is, locally in Netherlands.

phanbueyIt really depends on the game, many games actually the opposite comes true, where the lows are about the same but the averages are +30% higher (hogwarts legacy etc.). I do hope the 9800x3d to have better lows than the 7800x3d on account of the more powerful core.

Well that is why I have a 7900X3D. People bash me all the time when I remind them that my other CCD runs up to 5.7 Ghz. I know what you mean about 30% higher averages too and having 128MB of L3 is nice when half of it is Vcache but 64mb is there for the Non X3d chips. I went from 32GB 5200 40 something RAM to 32GB 6000 30 Team ($129 Canadian) for a great price. I even bought a 7800X3d and used it for 2 weeks but those 4 cores extra threads and extra Cache matter more than you would think. I love the other innovations like SAM and Rebar that add another 20-30% to performance. To me that is part of the secret of X3D chips. It uses so much GPU resources that system RAM means nothing. I could probably get away with 16GB of DRAM. Where I feel my CPU shines is in Strategy Games like TWWH3, Rogue Trader and BG3. Or City Builders like City Skylines 2.

Someone is going to mention latency and I will ask right now if people actually think they can feel 80 nanoseconds.

I myeslf will be getting the 9900X3D when it comes out. Hopefully the narrative bashes it again and I can get a CPU for $400 less than the 9950X3D and $50 more than the 9800X3D. That was the price difference between the 7000 series where I live. I am confident that the 9800X3D will be $600 Canadian or more. BTW the MSI X870E Godlike is $1899 (Cheaper than the X670E version) and alreadcy sold out at my main brick and mortar. There are also some killer deals on B650 and X870 MBs.

b1k3rdudeSo the break down should be roughly -

Zen5 -

• 9800X3D - £350
• 9900X3D - £450

Zen4 -

• 7800X3D - £350 - ignore the currently artifically inflated pricing of £420,
• 7900X3D - £399

So if the exchange rate is done fairly and no profiteering is tacked on top then we should see the 9800X3D for £370 in the UK, which isnt far off what I guestimated. But when are the prices of item fair in the UK, its probably going to be more like a 1:1 so £479, but considering the 9700x is still £309 atm, the 9800x3d is prolly gonna more more like the £370 mark, again ignoring the artificially inflated price of the 7800X3D atm.