Friday, November 8th 2024
AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Stocks Vaporized in Retail, Being Scalped
Unlike the Ryzen 7 9700X, which was off to a glacial start when it launched, the new Ryzen 7 9800X3D "Zen 5" processor with 3D V-Cache is flying off the shelves. This is the fastest gaming processor you can buy, and gamers want their best machines in place when the next generation of GPUs make landfall starting January 2025. As of this writing, the 9800X3D is out of stock on Newegg, Amazon, and Micro Center. The chip is, however, available through systems integrators and OEMs, who probably secured their inventory of the chip separately. A quick look over at eBay suggests that the 9800X3D is being scalped—the practice where individuals buy up inventory of the processor at retail prices, and re-sell it at a mark-up. We are seeing prices in the range of $670 to $800. There are probably limits to how high scalpers can price the 9800X3D, because at a high enough price, buyers could simply not be interested in the chip, and simply pick up a much cheaper 7800X3D, or the versatile 7950X3D, or even go Intel with the i9-14900K.
157 Comments on AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Stocks Vaporized in Retail, Being Scalped
While there isn’t a huge benefit going from 7800X3D to 9800X3D, the 9800X3D is a way better processor than the 7800X3D
It's still 580 euros, which is not interesting
These days you cant buy up all the stock of PS5s and 9800X3Ds and start selling them at a 500% mark up. You wont make back the money you invested.
Bought up all the PS5s?? Cool, I'll go look for a PS4. Bought up all the 9800X3Ds? Cool, imma go find me a 7800X3D, 7950X3D, 7900X3D, 7700X etc etc and wait till the global supply chain sorts it shit out.
And if youre an individual or entity that has the financial backing or capital to buy up most of the supply chain then you really should be investigated.
Of course you'll always get the handful of people who will buy it no matter what the cost, But not everyone has tonnes of money to spare or is that dumb to blindly go along with it when other CPUs do what they want just fine.
Competitive gamers playing competitive multiplayer games:
These games are not the least bit hardware-intensive and already have insane performance numbers even with something as old as an R5-2600X. I used pc-builds.com's performance calculator and paired the 2600x with an XTX. Here are the results:
Apex Legends = 273FPS
COD: Warzone = 315FPS
CS:GO = 1025FPS
Fortnite = 453FPS
League of Legends = 1170FPS
Overwatch = 404FPS
PUBG = 259FPS
Rocket League = 646FPS
Even gamers with ultra-fast 240Hz displays would be unaffected by a CPU upgrade.
Mid-to-low-resolution gamers playing AAA single-player titles:
This is another huge category of gamers and, while this is certainly more CPU-intensive, most games still work just fine with an R5-3600X or better.
High-resolution gamers:
I am personally in this category and I use an R7-5800X3D coupled with an RX 7900 XTX. Upgrading my CPU (well, my whole platform TBH) would have absolutely no effect on gaming performance for me because at both 1440p and 2160p I'm limited by my XTX. The same would be true for ANYONE using a CPU no older than an Ryzen 3000-series.
Those three categories (either exclusively or any mix of the two) comprise way more than 90% of gamers on Earth.
Therefore, only fools with money to burn would be willing to pay scalper prices on an R7-9800X3D because literally ANYONE else would be perfectly comfortable waiting for more to be available. Scalpers will end up losing their shirts because of this and I for one will be more than happy to sit back and watch the Schitt's show unfold. Unlike during the mining crazes, scalpers have ZERO leverage here because, while there's no question that the R7-9800X3D is a marvellous processor, but it's not like there aren't 1,001 alternatives that would be just as good in modern games available on both the new and used market. I build and sell budget gaming PCs (console fighters) and so I've done a good amount of research surrounding this topic. For the vast majority of gamers (those who play with a 1080p60Hz monitor), a Ryzen 5 5600 coupled with an RX 5700 XT or RTX 2070 is pretty much all you need for a fantastic gaming experience at 1080p.
Hell, using Hardware Unboxed's performance optimisation settings, a PC with an R5-5600, RX 5700 XT and 32GB of DDR4-3600 CL18 can achieve 70FPS in Black myth: Wukong's downloadable benchmark. I have personally done this and have taken screenshots to keep as records. I do this because I'm not one to mislead my customers. Any claim about the performance of one of my PCs is backed up with images of every performance test result. I'm at my day job right now and don't have access to these images but if anyone wants to see it, I'll post it when I get home tonight (usually around 9:30pm EST). Also keep in mind that this game is totally limited by the RX 5700 XT because, just for fun, I ran the same benchmark with the same settings on my RX 6800 XT and RX 7900 XTX with massive FPS gains (IIRC, well over 100FPS).
If a lowly R5-5600 can do over 100FPS in Black Myth: Wukong, there's nobody who is in dire need of an R7-9800X3D, or at least, not dire enough to be willing to pay scalper-level pricing for it. The only people who would buy this from scalpers are probably the same people who had no problem paying $2300USD for an RTX 4090 (aka "More money than brains").
These scalpers are even more screwed than those who tried to scalp the RTX 4080 and I'm loving it! :roll:
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"or even go Intel with the i9-14900K."
Who says that Mods and Admins don't have a sense of humour? ;)
(For some reason, the system wouldn't let me actually quote the original post.)AGREED!And it would take literally years before the gaming performance difference made ANY difference to anyone's gaming experience.Well, they are getting pretty desperate and I wouldn't put it past them. Having said that, I really doubt it because they'd literally be handing over a tonne of $$$ to AMD.Why?
The 5800X3D is easily enough for any game on the market today and the 7800X3D is just straight overkill for any game on the market so just what advantage would you be paying that extra money for?
There's also this. Simulation time isn't that interesting (to me), but it is an indication of very good performance in sim games. Personally I'm much more interested in the 9600x, which is also good at that kind of thing... Not to mention the upcoming 9600X3D.
Pleeeease don't give these clowns your money. I've never bought from scalper and never will.
on the other hand, given the reviews ... here :lovetpu: GN and JTC ... i think my 5800X3D achieved legendary status ... tho the 5700X3D tops it ... the fact that i paid it 215chf when the 5700X3D was priced ... 300chf (now it's sub 200chf :cry: ) still make me feel good about it :D
Haven't been so excited about a CPU in years... I'll try and get my system setup tomorrow.
Hope the stock situation gets better soon, don't pay scalper prices!
The Alley and every other handheld are still niche products. I have an Alley, some of my coworkers have an handheld, they tell me they rarely use it. Last time I use the Alley was months ago, I use my work laptop more, I use the laptop's 780m at work more than the Alley when I have down time at work. Why have another device in my work bag when this laptop can function for both. My son uses the Alley more than me but only on car rides, at home, he has a desktop.