Zach_01AMD found a way to make money out of the most silicon possible and feed all sections of the market with 1 CCD design.

freeagentFrom what I have seen, R9 gets the best cores out of the Ryzen lot..

Chrispy_runt CCD that would be underwhelming even as a lower-end Ryzen5 or Ryzen7.

oxrufiioxoIts not amd already has announced its sticking to the single ccd cache BS and hoping the chipset driver/windows does the heavy lifting on scheduling.

Guwapo77I also thought they didn't figure out the latency issue from jumping between both CCDs (at least for gaming).

NGL, I like this price. I picked up my 5950X in Germany during Covid and that bastard was $1100. So yeah, $699 makes my soul happy.

Chrispy_Which is why were going to be getting 12-core CCDs next generation. Not because desktops need more cores, but because AMD need to stay ahead of ARM core counts in the datacenter

Guwapo77I also thought they didn't figure out the latency issue from jumping between both CCDs (at least for gaming).

oxrufiioxoI have a 7950X3D and love it actually like it significantly better than I do the 7800X3D but it isn't a plug and play cpu like the 7800X3D or even the 5950X you have to babysit windows and make sure it's behaving not a huge deal to me but it would be nice if it just worked properly with scheduling out of the box.

Zach_01100%, if we do get 12core CCD and 24core 9950X replacement at some point it will be because AMD would want to offer that to the pros.
We like or not as end consumers that is the business today. We are seeing it on GPUs too.

Thinking of pulling the trigger to AM5 later this year (maybe Q2) to something like a 9700X, keep it until 2027-28 and then go for a 12core that hopefully it will be out by then and keep it another 2-3years.
~6years with 2 CPUs per platform looks fine to my book.


Most likely but lets think also about how much beneficial would be a second X3D CCD even if there was a significant cross talk improvement.


Still using third party software for scheduling?

Zach_01Still using third party software for scheduling?

Guwapo77I know that would be glorious for productivity software, but for gaming, I need it to remain on the fastest CCD.

oxrufiioxoI do, it's about 95% there if you clean install W11 24h2 and set the bios to prefer cache but using process lasso to keep windows and all programs on the non cache ccd and games on the cache ccd is always superior.

I actually tested both the 7800X3D and 7950X3D pretty extensively before deciding which one to keep and if it wasn't for process lasso I wouldn't have kept the 16 core.

Also for anyone who plays games with anti cheat software you better hope windows doesn't go rouge on you and bounce between CCDs causing you all kinds of issues its rare thankfully for my use case but a possibility.

Zach_01I see...

I saw a Jayz2cent video a few months ago that core parking was solved but the showcase was with just 1 game, Borderlands3 if I'm not mistaken.

MakaveliI would actually wait for these to hit the streets I don't believe you will be seeing pricing at MSRP once retailer markups and scalpers get involved.

freeagentMaybe, but a bunch of people blew their wad on a 9800X3D, moar for us :)

freeagentMaybe, but a bunch of people blew their wad on a 9800X3D, moar for us :)

freeagent9800X3D has been readily available to me for a few weeks now, I have had it in my cart like 50 times lol.. 689 plus tax..

Edit:

I don't want AM5 to be like how it was with AM4 for me.. where I buy almost all the good CPUs lol..

oxrufiioxoI guess all 5 AMD fans up there in Canadia got them already....

freeagentOur polar pesos do not go far these days, I am in a fortunate position where I can :oops:

oxrufiioxoA lot of your country is pretty gorgeous so I guess that is a fair trade off.

RedwoodzWhy? Because Intel wasn't selling 4 cores for $400 at the same time?

oxrufiioxoHe's talking about the platform which offered substantially better connectivity is my guess even X299 had 60+ pcie lanes which is still substantially better than modern chipsets that cap out in the mid 40s with about half that being available to the end user.

oxrufiioxoIts not so much core parking it's Windows scheduling a game on the wrong CCD which is rare but happens. Some games also want to spill beyond 8 cores and Windows doesn't always do a good job of keeping them on the X3D CCD. It's at most 1 in every 10 games but it happens and isn't Always pleasant. It would be less noticeable at 4k.