Thursday, April 30th 2009
3R System Boss 2 Surfaces
3R System, a Korean company that specializes in PC cases, cooling products, and power supplies unveiled a new high-end CPU air cooler, the Boss 2. This cooler uses the most common tower-design coolers in its class use. The unit measures 131(L)x95(W)x152(H) mm, and weights around 730 g (1.61 lbs). The cooler design consists of a CPU block that doubles up as a tiny heatsink. Here, five heatpipes make direct contact with the CPU. The heatpipes propagate through a dense array of aluminum fins. Its air-flow is care of a 120 mm LED-lit fan that rotates at speeds between 1000 and 2000 rpm, 53.5 CFM to 78.5 CFM, with a noise output range of 19 to 32 dBA. Sources indicate that the cooler will be released worldwide very soon, though there is no word on its price.
Sources:
CPUsers.gr, Cooln.kr
22 Comments on 3R System Boss 2 Surfaces
If I remember correctly Xiggy own the rights to the 'HDT' design and have been fighting legal battles because of other companies using their design.
The heat from a CPU does NOT come evenly from the cpu cap - rather from hotspots caused by the placing of the cpu die(s).
As a result the heat pipes on the edges are almost completely un-used and the efficiency of the cooler as a whole is reduced.
(YES i know they still work well, but they would work BETTER if all of their heat pipes where conducting heat away from the cpu - and they don't)
Someone had thermal imaging reviews to prove this (as it seemed ppl couldnt understand the concept) , but I cant find the review anymore - I was sure it was toms h/w ...
Anyone know who it was?
BTW, official photos (with the specs) are located at CPUsers.gr source, post #5
All I want is an awesome product
I don't see any fan in those pictures...am I missing something?
The waste comes in the form of cost by having more heatpipes than needed. If these companies would make the heatpipes near gapless, I don't think any standard cooler would stand a chance.
A spreader slows down heat transfer guys, when you compare it to heatpipes. Heatpipes immediately transfer heat to the fins (in a rapid oscillation), whilst copper "slowly" transfers it. The faster the rate of transfer the better.
I think Xigmatek's quality control has taken a dump when you look at their recent coolers, with old batches of HDT S1283 sometimes besting them. This is my theory, I reckon its because now they have a higher demand and the finishing process is done faster; with faster machinery to lap the cooler, you get more friction, thus a lot of heat. Too much heat will permanently increase the pressure of the vapor chamber (somehow... dunno), causing the heat transfer to be slightly less (seems more like "significantly less" to me recently).
Just note its probably impossible for thicker heatpipes unless we have another material which provides the same heat transfer characteristics, but with more structural integrity, as anything wider will need a much thicker interior, or the pipe would collapse on itself.'
Hopefully 3R's cooler will have more consistent quality, as its made by a completely different company. I've noticed that non-Xigmatek manufacturing offerings these days best their quality so the aforementioned theory may be right. This would be the boss of cooling. A copper block logically speaking transfers heat slower than heatpipes (they're heat superconductors), such a small block moreover lacks any "thermal capacity" and it is NOT supposed to store heat-that is the LAST thing that you want. Why don't you guys think through it before you believe every source of information?
One classic case which displays what I just said is Scythe's coolers which are heavily limited by their exceedingly thick copper blocks which negate the "speed" advantage of their extreme heatpipe arrays (Orochi). Someone give them a wakeup call please?
Don't take recent review results of Xigmatek coolers into account, because there seems to be a quality issue, if an old Xigmatek HDT S1283 outdoes half of the quad pipe coolers. Read what I said above
PS : When the source is clearly Cooln.kr i see no point in mentioning a second source, the congrats are / should be awarded just to the original source.
Btw, have you heard anything about pricing?
PS : Eh? The CPUsers.gr source provides additional information, such as picture with specs, and additional photos. Seeing the point now?:toast:
As for the rest....Your website lists the specs found at the official 3RSys website so that is your source although you did not specify it for some weird reason :
www.3rsys.com/products/view.asp?navi=watercooler&idx_num=155
As for the problem with Xigmatek, 3RSys calls their system D.T.H ( Direct Touch Heatpipe ) so currently there is no issue with the H.D.T by Xigmatek ( Heatpipe Direct Touch ). And yes it is a word game but it works ;)
Second Xigmatek is fighting companies that use H.D.T and just rename it but from what i know they have still to make any breakthroughs with the law.