FineWine===>FineVinegar FuryX Aging Horrible in 2017

Vya Domus · Nov 28, 2017

MuhammedAbdo said:
Shhh please, stop making a fool out of yourself and showing us how ignorant you are, my statements are clear: Geometry (polygon + tessellation) performance on FuryX is bad, that's why it sucks in most of these games, you are the one confusing Geometry Shaders with fill rate with polygons. Basically your understanding of tech is that of a potato.

The only fanboy here is the people trying to disprove numbers and benchmarks results with pathetic reasoning and faulty info. Numbers don't lie. But you guys will for sure.

WOW! Please enlighten us as to how!

You and the other grand total of 2 other people that share the same opinion with you on this matter have been shown a plethora of evidence, repeatedly by several people that this thread is nothing more than a witch hunt after an "issue" that isn't backed up by any concrete evidence or anything that we didn't already knew for years.

But carry on with the endless spamming of the same flawed chart/numbers and made up facts that you love so much.

sneekypeet · Nov 28, 2017

Let's all stop with the back and forth about who is right and who is wrong. Post on the topic while being civil is all we ask! Thread closure eminent unless the tone drastically changes.

yogurt_21 · Nov 28, 2017

Have not regretted a single highend card purchase. that includes the 2900XT and X1800XT (as well as GTX 480 SLI for NV side)

HD64G · Nov 29, 2017

The test below shows that Fury's problem is mostly optimisation of drivers and/or VRAM being small for some games. It's core is still fast even in half speed than 1070's.

https://overclock3d.net/reviews/software/vrmark_cyan_room_dx12_benchmark_-_amd_vs_nvidia/2

Let's hope some of the next drivers gives the Fiji the optimisation it deserves.

mrbudgie · Nov 29, 2017

recently side stepped from rx480 8bg x2 in crossfire to a fury x and really glad i did, seems to perform really well in all games i play.

HD64G · Nov 30, 2017

Some news for Fiji owners: Compute/graphics switch works on Crimson 17.11.4 now for Fury GPUs and not only for Polaris and Vegas.

xkm1948 · Nov 30, 2017

HD64G said:
Some news for Fiji owners: Compute/graphics switch works on Crimson 17.11.4 now for Fury GPUs and not only for Polaris and Vegas.

Nope. They have been out since Fall Creator Update driver.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...date-amd-adds-mining-option-for-furyx.237951/

HD64G · Nov 30, 2017

xkm1948 said:
Nope. They have been out since Fall Creator Update driver.

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...date-amd-adds-mining-option-for-furyx.237951/

Thanks for the info. Didn't know about that. Fury isn't so much neglected from the AMD driver team then. HBM OC needs to be re-enabled and some newer games need to be optimised to get on par to Polaris and Vega archs. And VR also for some people who use that need to be done better.

xkm1948 · Nov 30, 2017

HD64G said:
Thanks for the info. Didn't know about that. Fury isn't so much neglected from the AMD driver team then. HBM OC needs to be re-enabled and some newer games need to be optimised to get on par to Polaris and Vega archs. And VR also for some people who use that need to be done better.

The fact is they really have NOT been optimizing the Fiji arc since even Polaris launch.

Never emotionally invest in a brand like me. That clouded my judgment back then.

Only spend your $$$ based on a multitude of reviews. And don't count on promises like "FineWine"

I'm saving up money to get another GPU. Hopefully Ampree will drop soon.

HD64G · Nov 30, 2017

xkm1948 said:
The fact is they really have NOT been optimizing the Fiji arc since even Polaris launch.

Never emotionally invest in a brand like me. That clouded my judgment back then.

Only spend your $$$ based on a multitude of reviews. And don't count on promises like "FineWine"

I'm saving up money to get another GPU. Hopefully Ampree will drop soon.

Your advice about emotion when buying products is golden. Without facts no one should buy anything. Thing is sometimes products seem great at first and after months or years of use you are sure about their true value. Happens frequently with all of us eh?

R00kie · Nov 30, 2017

Both teams have their own share of problems, no one's a saint.

ikeke · Nov 30, 2017

xkm1948 said:
The fact is they really have NOT been optimizing the Fiji arc since even Polaris launch. [bold added by "ikeke"]

Never emotionally invest in a brand like me. That clouded my judgment back then.

Only spend your $$$ based on a multitude of reviews. And don't count on promises like "FineWine"

I'm saving up money to get another GPU. Hopefully Ampree will drop soon.

Polaris launch @29th June 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_400_series

Now, that's a strong emotional statement, got any proof to go with it?

(the proof would need to show that there has been negative or zero improvement in games for AMD Fiji uarch GPUs since 29th June 2016)

I'll give you a hint:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_Ti_FTW2/

xkm1948 · Nov 30, 2017

ikeke said:
Polaris launch @29th June 2016 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Radeon_400_series

Now, that's a strong emotional statement, got any proof to go with it?

(the proof would need to show that there has been negative or zero improvement in games for AMD Fiji uarch GPUs since 29th June 2016)

I'll give you a hint:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_Ti_FTW2/

You do know TPU's review do not re-test older cards for every new GPU release right? I suggest you take a look at newer game title reviews that test specifically how each GPU performs in newer titles.

I will give you some hints:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Call_Of_Duty_WW_II/4.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Middle_Earth_Shadow_of_War/5.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Destiny_2_Beta/4.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Hellblade_Senuas_Sacrifice/4.html
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Prey/4.html

My proof is the performance I am having as a owner, as well as new features support I am seeing as a owner of a FuryX owner.

ikeke · Nov 30, 2017

Did you actually read the review?

Here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/5.html
AMD: 16.4.2 Beta
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1070_Ti_FTW2/6.html
AMD other cards: 17.6.2 Beta

I've had all three Fury variants, just saying.

System Name	Good enough
Processor	AMD Ryzen R9 7900 - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora Edge
Motherboard	ASRock B650 Pro RS
Cooling	2x 360mm NexXxoS ST30 X-Flow, 1x 360mm NexXxoS ST30, 1x 240mm NexXxoS ST30
Memory	32GB - FURY Beast RGB 5600 Mhz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire RX 7900 XT - Alphacool Eisblock Aurora
Storage	1x Kingston KC3000 1TB 1x Kingston A2000 1TB, 1x Samsung 850 EVO 250GB , 1x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB
Display(s)	LG UltraGear 32GN650-B + 4K Samsung TV
Case	Phanteks NV7
Power Supply	GPS-750C

System Name	EVA-01
Processor	Intel i7 13700K
Motherboard	Asus ROG Maximus Z690 HERO EVA Edition
Cooling	ASUS ROG Ryujin III 360 with Noctua Industrial Fans
Memory	PAtriot Viper Elite RGB 96GB @ 6000MHz.
Video Card(s)	Asus ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 24GB OC EVA Edition
Storage	Addlink S95 M.2 PCIe GEN 4x4 2TB
Display(s)	Asus ROG SWIFT OLED PG42UQ
Case	Thermaltake Core P3 TG
Audio Device(s)	Realtek on board > Sony Receiver > Cerwin Vegas
Power Supply	be quiet DARK POWER PRO 12 1500W
Mouse	ROG STRIX Impact Electro Punk
Keyboard	ROG STRIX Scope TKL Electro Punk
Software	Windows 11

System Name	Thought I'd be done with this by now
Processor	i7 11700k 8/16
Motherboard	MSI Z590 Pro Wifi
Cooling	Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, 9x aigo AR12
Memory	32GB GSkill TridentZ Neo DDR4-4000 CL18-22-22-42
Video Card(s)	MSI Ventus 2x Geforce RTX 3070
Storage	1TB MX300 M.2 OS + Games, + cloud mostly
Display(s)	Samsung 40" 4k (TV)
Case	Lian Li PC-011 Dynamic EVO Black
Audio Device(s)	onboard HD -> Yamaha 5.1
Power Supply	EVGA 850 GQ
Mouse	Logitech wireless
Keyboard	same
VR HMD	nah
Software	Windows 10
Benchmark Scores	no one cares anymore lols

Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W
Motherboard	MSI B550 Tomahawk
Cooling	ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA
Memory	2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse 12GB
Storage	Sandisk SSD 128GB, Kingston A2000 NVMe 1TB, Samsung F1 1TB, WD Black 10TB
Display(s)	AOC 27G2U/BK IPS 144Hz
Case	SHARKOON M25-W 7.1 BLACK
Audio Device(s)	Realtek 7.1 onboard
Power Supply	Seasonic Core GC 500W
Mouse	Sharkoon SHARK Force Black
Keyboard	Trust GXT280
Software	Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux

System Name	MR BUDGIE
Processor	INTEL Skylake 6700K 4.4ghz
Motherboard	Asus Z170-P
Cooling	Air
Memory	2 x 8gb Kingston Hyperx 2133mhz
Video Card(s)	2 x RX480 8gb Crossfire (xfx custom backplates)
Storage	SSD
Display(s)	Benq 144hz 24 inch
Case	Corsair Carbide Spec-03
Audio Device(s)	RAZER BARRACUDA AC-1 & HP-1
Power Supply	Corsair CS750M
Mouse	Razer Ouroboros
Software	WIN10 64BIT
Benchmark Scores	TimeSpy 7200 (Gpu-7648 Cpu-5408) Unigine Heaven Benchmark Score:2566 FPS: 101.9 Min:35.4 Max:211.2

System Name	Virtual Reality / Bioinformatics
Processor	Undead CPU
Motherboard	Undead TUF X99
Cooling	Noctua NH-D15
Memory	GSkill 128GB DDR4-3000
Video Card(s)	EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra
Storage	Samsung 960 Pro 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + WD Black 5TB
Display(s)	32'' 4K Dell
Case	Fractal Design R5
Audio Device(s)	BOSE 2.0
Power Supply	Seasonic 850watt
Mouse	Logitech Master MX
Keyboard	Corsair K70 Cherry MX Blue
VR HMD	HTC Vive + Oculus Quest 2
Software	Windows 10 P

System Name	Main / HTPC
Processor	Ryzen 7 7800X3D / Ryzen 7 2700
Motherboard	Aorus B650M Elite AX/ B450i Aorus Pro Wifi
Cooling	Lian-Li Galahad 360 / Wraith Spire
Memory	Corsair Vengeance 2x16 6000MHz CL30 / HyperX Predator 2x8GB 3200MHz
Video Card(s)	RTX 3080 FE / ARC A380
Storage	WD Black SN770 1TB / Sabrent Rocket 256GB
Display(s)	Aorus FO32U2P / 39" Panasonic HDTV
Case	Fractal Arc XL / Cougar QBX
Audio Device(s)	Denon AVR-X2800H / Realtek ALC1220
Power Supply	Corsair RM850 / BeQuiet SFX Power 2 450W
Mouse	Logitech G903
Keyboard	Drop Sense75 with WQ Studio Morandi's
VR HMD	Rift S
Software	Win 11 Pro 64Bit

System Name	Steamy
Processor	Ryzen 7 2700X
Motherboard	Asrock AB350M-Pro4
Cooling	Wraith Prism
Memory	2x8GB HX429C15PB3AK2/16
Video Card(s)	R9 290X WC
Storage	960Evo 500GB nvme
Case	Fractal Design Define Mini C
Power Supply	Seasonic SS-660XP2
Software	Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores	http://hwbot.org/user/kinski/ http://valid.x86.fr/qfxqhj https://goo.gl/uWkw7n

FineWine===>FineVinegar FuryX Aging Horrible in 2017

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