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Yeah it was a bit of an oops.. I put it up a couple of times locally, but low ballers are everywhere.. I paid 80 for it, listed it for 60, and had offers of 40-50. I modified it’s too cover to fit on my Meshify, works great! I also have the top covers from my R4 in the Meshify so it’s not as loud as it could be :D
 

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Yeah it was a bit of an oops.. I put it up a couple of times locally, but low ballers are everywhere.. I paid 80 for it, listed it for 60, and had offers of 40-50. I modified it’s too cover to fit on my Meshify, works great! I also have the top covers from my R4 in the Meshify so it’s not as loud as it could be :D
I kinda paid 60EUR for this... I paid 70EUR for my friend as I was supposed to get his GTX 970 but he didn't have money for a new GPU as he spent that for his dad's birthday present, so we made a deal for this case and he gave me a pack of cigarettes too. :D
 

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Good score! I used to smoke Players. Now I vape but I still hit the pipe quite often. No drinks, just the one vice.. two I guess.
 

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Good score! I used to smoke Players. Now I vape but I still hit the pipe quite often. No drinks, just the one vice.. two I guess.
I roll and smoke blue West, I should quit. I don't give a fuck about the health problems but tobacco is hella expensive..

But on topic, I'll boot and try 4.4GHz :toast:

Let's hope that this is stable :)

 
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Hey just curious.. what would you consider to be high voltage for a 3600? Would you be ok running 1.36v or so?
You cannot derive at a safe voltage by picking an assumed value. If you really want to know, it depends on the clocks vs load. You can google PBO fit voltage test to read up on it, but essentially you set up PBO to hit the clockspeed you are aiming for and let it do its thing. Then note the average voltage it uses which will be your safe max voltage for that "particular" load. Now this will still be short a few hundred mhz if you are aiming for a high all core so keep that in mind.
 

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Letting it do its own thing is fine.. it runs perfectly well. But I meant for all core. I saw 1.35 was ok, then 1.325 is ok, but then no its not it will degrade with that much. Other guys are like nahh if you can keep it cool 1.4++ lol. Doesn't help that looking at stock clocks and volts the board will give 1.5v. I think up to 1.35v on all core manual clocking is all my cooling will take, temps get up there under certain loads.. I will mess with single core stuff as winter progresses.
 
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For now 4.4 seems fine... Iets have few more games CSGO as it usually crashes if I have stability issues.
 

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Disabling PBO and no oc, just stock was the best thing I ever did for my 5600x, temps dropped 10 celsius and I haven't had a single issue nor frame rate drop in the games I play change.

but once new BIOS and new chipset/radeon drivers arrive over the next few months, I probably will give it another shot, but I am waiting for a WHQL of all 3 being new before I attempt again
 

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Hey just curious.. what would you consider to be high voltage for a 3600? Would you be ok running 1.36v or so?

static voltage? no. Pretty sure i saw degradation on my 3700x from a 1.3v OC
 

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Hello, I have a Ryzen 5800x and I am having the same diagnosis on HWInfo. However my PC does not lock up, does not shut down and I feel like it is normal. Do I have to worry? What can I do? I'm running the ram at 3800mhz 1: 1 as I used it on the 3700x before.

Thanks
 

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Hello, I have a Ryzen 5800x and I am having the same diagnosis on HWInfo. However my PC does not lock up, does not shut down and I feel like it is normal. Do I have to worry? What can I do? I'm running the ram at 3800mhz 1: 1 as I used it on the 3700x before.

Thanks

same diagnosis as what? you may have forgotten to quote a post
 

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same diagnosis as what? you may have forgotten to quote a post


This error appears in HWInfo 64 and increases with time while I'm playing. My computer never shut down for that reason, it never crashed and looks 100% nonetheless. I have a R7 5800x in the beta bios of the Gigabyte F60c and I have my memories at 3800mhz and 1900 in the Infinity Fabric. But as I said I realized this error today and I never had stability problems when using a computer on a daily basis. Should I worry about something?
 

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Ah, WHEA errors

3800/1900 is your issue, zen 3 just isn't stable there without the new AGESA updates that havent been released yet - drop to 3600/1800 and you should be fine
 

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Ah, WHEA errors

3800/1900 is your issue, zen 3 just isn't stable there without the new AGESA updates that havent been released yet - drop to 3600/1800 and you should be fine
As I usually use the PC to play games, I like to leave it at 3800mhz because I have a 240hz monitor and I get 1% lower with this ram configuration. I saw people who even at 3600mhz got this error, and only stopped having it at 3200mhz. From what I saw, the problem is with the IF and not with the memory. A user said that with 4400mhz on the ram but an IF below 1600 he no longer had this error. As I said, I don't notice any strange behavior on the computer and the performance is very good. I never had any stability issues for that. If I leave it that way and ignore the mistakes, can I be missing something or have a problem in the future? Thanks again and I'm sorry for the English, I'm from Brazil lol !!
 

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Letting it do its own thing is fine.. it runs perfectly well. But I meant for all core. I saw 1.35 was ok, then 1.325 is ok, but then no its not it will degrade with that much. Other guys are like nahh if you can keep it cool 1.4++ lol. Doesn't help that looking at stock clocks and volts the board will give 1.5v. I think up to 1.35v on all core manual clocking is all my cooling will take, temps get up there under certain loads.. I will mess with single core stuff as winter progresses.

Even all-core isn't black and white...AVX, non-AVX, hell even your average memory stability test runs "all-core" 100% usage yet you'll never see those all-core clocks anywhere else, ever. Yeah, stock all-core draws 1.35V, but you'll never see over 1.3V for heavy all-core AVX.

As for 1.5V at stock, there's 18 months worth of explanations about why Ryzen does this and why it's not bonkers for doing so, not worth going into this for the trillionth time

1.325V was the initial expert suggestion as to a safe limit, then some people found out the hard way that it's best to stay out of all-core OC altogether and not assign arbitrary "safe" limits if one cares at all about longevity. If you don't care at all, by all means OC the shit outta that chip
 

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Even all-core isn't black and white...AVX, non-AVX, hell even your average memory stability test runs "all-core" 100% usage yet you'll never see those all-core clocks anywhere else, ever. Yeah, stock all-core draws 1.35V, but you'll never see over 1.3V for heavy all-core AVX.

As for 1.5V at stock, there's 18 months worth of explanations about why Ryzen does this and why it's not bonkers for doing so, not worth going into this for the trillionth time

1.325V was the initial expert suggestion as to a safe limit, then some people found out the hard way that it's best to stay out of all-core OC altogether and not assign arbitrary "safe" limits if one cares at all about longevity. If you don't care at all, by all means OC the shit outta that chip
I hear you man. I backed it down to stock clocks.. sigh. I didn't know about these things burning out.. Had I known that.. I probably would have stuck with the other team. Dammit. I would hate to kill good hardware. Well maybe this isn't for me after all. I don't want a dell, I want something I can overclock, and not worry about whether or not the CPU can handle it. I used to overclock until the temps got up there and then would stop. But if that isn't safe anymore.. boooo. No point in running this for much longer then. I guess I will list it locally and see what happens. If no one takes it not a huge deal, I still like it.. I just want to overclock. My max AVX temp at 4500 was 85c. A bit up there, but still under 90. I thought she was good. Seemed like it.
 
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There is nothing wrong with OC on Ryzen CPUs. What is true about Ryzen though is each generation is vastly different in terms of "happy" voltages. Let's use the 6 core as an example. The 1600 had a 3.9 GHZ boost clock and would be at 1.32 to 1.4 to get that stable at maybe 4 GHZ on all cores. The 2600 had a 4.0 boost clock and would need 1.2 to 1.3 volts to get that stable at 4.2 GHZ which is the limit on those. The 3600 has a 4.2 GHZ boost clock and you can get 4.3 to 4.4 at 1.25 to 1.37 volts. The 5600x will run at 4.7 GHZ all cores but the best scenario is to leave the voltage on auto.
 

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Ok I see what you are saying. I was running 4500 at 1.331, seems pretty decent. I can run 4400 at 1.2675 I believe. 4600 isn’t happening in a stable fashion, I gave up at 1.37. 4500 is good, but if I cant run that might as well leave it at stock.
 
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Ok I see what you are saying. I was running 4500 at 1.331, seems pretty decent. I can run 4400 at 1.2675 I believe. 4600 isn’t happening in a stable fashion, I gave up at 1.37. 4500 is good, but if I cant run that might as well leave it at stock.
i use Ryzen Master I set the profile to run at 4.7 GHZ across all cores and left the voltage on auto. In HWinfo64 I see .998 to 1.38 Voltage.
 

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Memory 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14
Video Card(s) Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC
Storage WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB
Display(s) LG 50UP7100
Case Fractal Torrent Compact
Audio Device(s) JBL Bar 700
Power Supply Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800
Mouse Logitech G502 Hero
Keyboard Logitech G213
VR HMD Oculus 3
Software Yes
Benchmark Scores Yes
I just went in the bios and at multi to x45 ccx voltage to 1.331 and the other core voltage to match. I don’t like to overclock in windows. I feel like a dinosaur lol
 

Durvelle27

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Case DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust
Audio Device(s) LG Dolby Atmos 5.1
Mouse Logitech Trackman
Keyboard Logitech K350
Software Windows 10 EDU x64

Mussels

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Location
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System Name Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s) Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s) Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s) Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores Nyooom.
Now we just need to talk about that dell keyboard...
 

Durvelle27

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System Name Black Prometheus
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Cooling Thermalright PA120 SE |
Storage Sandisk X300 512GB + WD Black 6TB+WD Black 6TB
Display(s) LG Nanocell85 49" 4K 120Hz + ACER AOPEN 34" 3440x1440 144Hz
Case DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust
Audio Device(s) LG Dolby Atmos 5.1
Mouse Logitech Trackman
Keyboard Logitech K350
Software Windows 10 EDU x64
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