Xeon Owners Club

[Veseleil]

BTW Are you happy with that 5700XT?

I may say I got more than I was expected. It was more than 50EUR premium over the reference and low-end models, but it's probably the best 5700XT out there, besides Red Devil. It runs cool, especially undervolted (all of my game profiles are undervolted), and it's a 1080p beast. Never had problems with drivers, it's stable from the first day, and I've gone through almost all of the driver versions so far. The only thing I regret is not buying a 1440p display instead. I wanted 100FPS+ gaming, and was afraid of 1440p being significantly more demanding. I was kinda wrong.

why instead of 2670v2 not 2690v2?
10 cores 3.3ghz all core boost 3.6 single boost. You can oc the bclk to 110-113mhz.

It's bundled with a very nice motherboard, and X79 boards are... almost non-existent in my country (for sale that is).

 

[Wdoox]

I may say I got more than I was expected. It was more than 50EUR premium over the reference and low-end models, but it's probably the best 5700XT out there, besides Red Devil. It runs cool, especially undervolted (all of my game profiles are undervolted), and it's a 1080p beast. Never had problems with drivers, it's stable from the first day, and I've gone through almost all of the driver versions so far. The only thing I regret is not buying a 1440p display instead. I wanted 100FPS+ gaming, and was afraid of 1440p being significantly more demanding. I was kinda wrong.


It's bundled with a very nice motherboard, and X79 boards are... almost non-existent in my country (for sale that is).

yea x79 boards (good one's ) are hard to find in my country as well.
With what board it's bundled? You can still oc with bclk.

 

[Veseleil]

yea x79 boards (good one's ) are hard to find in my country as well.
With what board it's bundled? You can still oc with bclk.

Asus P9X79.

P.S. I'm hiding my location from now on.

 

[Wdoox]

Asus P9X79.

P.S. I'm hiding my location from now on.

Yea that is a nice board, look my advice is if it is a decent price than go for it. Play around with it and if you need a better cpu than 2670v2 you still have options.
2687w v2 for 8 core or 2690v2 for 10 core those are locked xeons but you could still oc them with bclk( 110-115 mhz), and you could go with 1680v2 and that is unlocked cpu.

 

[Toothless]

Yea that is a nice board, look my advice is if it is a decent price than go for it. Play around with it and if you need a better cpu than 2670v2 you still have options.
2687w v2 for 8 core or 2690v2 for 10 core those are locked xeons but you could still oc them with bclk( 110-115 mhz), and you could go with 1680v2 and that is unlocked cpu.

The 26xx isn't going to go far. Best thing for them to get is a 1650v2 up to 1680v2.

I really, reealllyy need to get that board working again. 4.6ghz overclock on the 1680v2 ran so good that even the Titan Xp wasn't bottlenecked by.. much if at all.

 

[Veseleil]

Yea that is a nice board, look my advice is if it is a decent price than go for it. Play around with it and if you need a better cpu than 2670v2 you still have options.
2687w v2 for 8 core or 2690v2 for 10 core those are locked xeons but you could still oc them with bclk( 110-115 mhz), and you could go with 1680v2 and that is unlocked cpu.

The price is not so good. That's the only reason it's on sale for a few years already, and the fact that the seller won't sell the board separately.
The thing is, I already have G1.Assassin 2 with 3930K. Got scammed, as it was on sale as "everything works", but the motherboard ended up with one of the memory channels defective, and having the latest BIOS which enables Ivy Bridge CPU support, but completely disables the OC features. These boards suffer from bad/overheating VRMs from the factory (it can be partly mitigated by strapping a fan on it i guess), and they tried to "fix" them by decreasing the OC headroom and finally by disabling it altogether. The Gigabyte's shitty BIOS isn't helping neither. It's a pain to rollback, and need to use not so reliable tools. Also, the IHS on the CPU is visibly bent outwards, but it works fine (stock at least). I'll take the board to the repair shop and hope the channel will come alive (already did all the possible cleaning, and checking the pins underneath), and maybe ask the guy to rollback the BIOS as well, and I'll probably grind down the IHS to even it out.
So, as I'm not rational when it comes to PC and MTB stuff, I want another X79 bundle, to play around and combine parts. If the mem channel is dead, and the rollback fails, then the Xeon would go to Assassin, and the 3930K to P9. I don't actually have the money for anything RN, but I want the damn X79 platform, and I want it to work as intended.

The 26xx isn't going to go far. Best thing for them to get is a 1650v2 up to 1680v2.

I really, reealllyy need to get that board working again. 4.6ghz overclock on the 1680v2 ran so good that even the Titan Xp wasn't bottlenecked by.. much if at all.

16xx Xeons are probably the most exciting to play with, but still very pricey...

 

[magnus72]

New to the forum, I have been collecting Xeon CPU´s for a while now, currently running with a Xeon E5 2697a V4 16 core in quad channel, though had a 1650 v2 build before overclocked to 4.3 Ghz, that was a solid CPU. Got hold of a Xeon E5 1680 v4 cpu too pretty cheap a few months ago.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

New to the forum, I have been collecting Xeon CPU´s for a while now, currently running with a Xeon E5 2697a V4 16 core in quad channel, though had a 1650 v2 build before overclocked to 4.3 Ghz, that was a solid CPU. Got hold of a Xeon E5 1680 v4 cpu too pretty cheap a few months ago.

Hey @magnus72 Welcome to the TPU!!!!!
2697a V4 is NICE I was really curious about that one....how does perform in games?Also feel free to share some benchmarking results with us!!!!

 

[magnus72]

Hey @magnus72 Welcome to the TPU!!!!!
2697a V4 is NICE I was really curious about that one....how does perform in games?Also feel free to share some benchmarking results with us!!!!

Thanks Goliat, it performs really well. I got it paired with an AMD RX 6600 non XT. I had the E5 2682 v4 before I got this E5 2697a V4 and before that I had a Xeon E5 2680 v4 before paired with an RTX 3060. I got some benchmarks posted now of the 2697a V4 yet though. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdzTymph5bSTrpTrmCanOeSXiyOrDHHg8

 

[Toothless]

The price is not so good. That's the only reason it's on sale for a few years already, and the fact that the seller won't sell the board separately.
The thing is, I already have G1.Assassin 2 with 3930K. Got scammed, as it was on sale as "everything works", but the motherboard ended up with one of the memory channels defective, and having the latest BIOS which enables Ivy Bridge CPU support, but completely disables the OC features. These boards suffer from bad/overheating VRMs from the factory (it can be partly mitigated by strapping a fan on it i guess), and they tried to "fix" them by decreasing the OC headroom and finally by disabling it altogether. The Gigabyte's shitty BIOS isn't helping neither. It's a pain to rollback, and need to use not so reliable tools. Also, the IHS on the CPU is visibly bent outwards, but it works fine (stock at least). I'll take the board to the repair shop and hope the channel will come alive (already did all the possible cleaning, and checking the pins underneath), and maybe ask the guy to rollback the BIOS as well, and I'll probably grind down the IHS to even it out.
So, as I'm not rational when it comes to PC and MTB stuff, I want another X79 bundle, to play around and combine parts. If the mem channel is dead, and the rollback fails, then the Xeon would go to Assassin, and the 3930K to P9. I don't actually have the money for anything RN, but I want the damn X79 platform, and I want it to work as intended.


16xx Xeons are probably the most exciting to play with, but still very pricey...

I paid about $100 for each 1680v2. The board is the expensive part.

 

[Veseleil]

I paid about $100 for each 1680v2. The board is the expensive part.

Bro, in my country even the 4790K costs $100, and if 16xx Xeons existed, the price would be at least double that. I've tried to cut the story short. And mentioning 4790K as it's on my wish list for a long time to replace my 1241 v3, as I intend to use another board for it (to make a home file server out of it, and unleash the full potential of my Red Rock system). Yes, I plan to build at least 3 more rigs which will spend most of the time collecting dust.

 

[N/A]

It't not just your country, it's ebay, aliexpress and all over the place. there are exceptions for the lucky person, congrats. for the rest of us, we should get a 2666 10C or 2698 V3 16C unlock it to 3,5 GHz and call it a day.

 

[vvkvvkvvk]

If I get something like 2699v4 and disable cores in BIOS, will it chop down the available L3 too, or does the useable cache still remain high?

 

[lexluthermiester]

If I get something like 2699v4 and disable cores in BIOS, will it chop down the available L3 too, or does the useable cache still remain high?

The L3 cache on those CPU's is unified. Disabling cores will do nothing to the L3 cache. But that leaves the question: Why disable cores?

 

[vvkvvkvvk]

The L3 cache on those CPU's is unified. Disabling cores will do nothing to the L3 cache. But that leaves the question: Why disable cores?

I have 2 CPU setup where the second numa node doesn't really have workload that would use more than 8-12 cores and I don't think you can mix HCC / MCC / LCC CPUs.

My reasoning is that if the cores are power gated off, the rest of the cores would enjoy less cache eviction due to larger cache available, use the power budget better and lessen the effects of migrating threads.

I'm sure Intel engineers probably thought of that too and it's pointless.

 

[Toothless]

Sounds like you would want a single socket, as your stuff isn't NUMA aware or something.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't think you can mix HCC / MCC / LCC CPUs.

True, your CPU's have to be identical.

y reasoning is that if the cores are power gated off, the rest of the cores would enjoy less cache eviction due to larger cache available, use the power budget better and lessen the effects of migrating threads.

Seems about right.

Sounds like you would want a single socket, as your stuff isn't NUMA aware or something.

That would depend on the OS.

 

[Toothless]

True, your CPU's have to be identical.

Seems about right.


That would depend on the OS.

Win10 Pro all de waaaaay

 

[lexluthermiester]

Win10 Pro all de waaaaay

Oh hardcore pass. LTSC all the way... Pro... You silly guy!

 

[Toothless]

Oh hardcore pass. LTSC all the way... Pro... You silly guy!

I force updates off til I get the real deep itch in the crack between the sockets. I default install Pro on every build since I don't feel like dealing with the online account bs.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I force updates off til I get the real deep itch in the crack between the sockets. I default install Pro on every build since I don't feel like dealing with the online account bs.

LTSC offers that, but with the added bonus of not having all the fluff to go with it. No cortana, no ms Store(no ms account), no Edge, very little telemetry(and what is present can easily be disabled). It's as lean and clean as you can get Windows 10 without serious ISO fiddling.

 

[vvkvvkvvk]

I run Linux, one of the workloads is a Windows "productivity" VM that really doesn't use that much of the cores but could really do with bit better single thread performance.

I guess I could just try it, I mean I already have the bits and bobs to do it. Or just build something with Alder Lake, the E/P-core split is actually perfect for me..

 

[Toothless]

So I'm going to ask here first..

Anyone want a dual x5675? I'm retiring all my 1366 stuff to make way for newer, stronger crunching. Just pay shipping (after I find a box, somewhere) and it's yours.

 

[Veseleil]

I'd love to, but shipping to Europe would be insane.

 

[Toothless]

I'd love to, but shipping to Europe would be insane.

Looking at many euro for that