TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

Greenslade · Feb 26, 2023

Hugis said:
Emu10k1 was a good DSP in its days, but as @Mr.Scott said that Asus board is the king id say.

Sound Blaster Live! - Wikipedia

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Thanks for that i will go for it.

Hugis said:
Lian Li launches PC-18 Mid Tower Chassis

Initially only in the USA though. Lian-Li Industrial Co. Ltd announces the PC-18 mid tower chassis: designed to feel compact while fitting powerful air and water cooling options inside....

www.guru3d.com

I picked up the case today ,there are some screws missing but it looks a good case.

Heres some photos of it.It has three fans ib it.

The guy got back to me about the free case.I have to go to his house to pick it up i am not sure of that ,i think he lives in a dodge area.I don,t know the exact address yet though.I even got a four leaflet showing me how to put it together.But it is in Chinese

It says it has a buzzer but i can,t see it, that is no problem as i have ten of them now.

Greenslade · Feb 28, 2023

I just got my MSI 85 E45 set up on the box before I put it in a case. I had a bad time getting the cooer I was beginning to think the push-pin ones were better.

In the end, I got there, it is so quiet

The socket 1155 I built my first PC with, the intel cooler is very noisy

Which to me needs to be cleaned it is really

I thought I would clean the 775 cooler to my amazement there was no dust in there.

I put e3 1246 v3 in the 85 e45 it told me to go to set up because of new hardware. At first, it was stopping, and starting I reseated the ram. all is well.

Moving on to my Core2
board, I am hoping that is a ram problem it is stopping and starting. With an e7400 I got on eBay.The 85 e45 will be my first complete build, as in the one I have built already everything was on the board I just had to put it in the case. I give up on the Core2 board and stop starting with the fans.

I am hoping I might have more luck with the Pentium board there was no stop-starting like on the Core2 board.The new build that heatsink fan is a lot better than the Intel one. it is very quiet.

Voodoo Rufus · Feb 28, 2023

Greenslade said:
Thanks for that i will go for it.

I picked up the case today ,there are some screws missing but it looks a good case. Heres some photos of it.It has three fans ib it.The guy got back to me about the free case.I have to go to his house to pick it up i am not sure of that ,i think he lives in a dodge area.I don,t know the exact address yet though.I even got a four leaflet showing me how to put it together.But it is in Chinese It says it has a buzzer but i can,t see it, that is no problem as i have ten of them now.

That case has potential. Enjoy!

Greenslade · Feb 28, 2023

Voodoo Rufus said:
That case has potential. Enjoy!

Yes it is a very good case in excellent condition.

I see that the make is highly regarded .and look really good to, with them being all Aluminium.

And a bargin to at £15.

In the photo i show a connecter with three Molex connecters from two of the Fans on the case do i need to plug them all in.?And why are there three molex connecters for two fans?There is also an 8 pin connecter and a tiny 2 pin all these come of the molex cobecter you see in the photo, where do i connect them?,The front fan has its own 3 pin .I have the four page manual that came with it but it does not mention anything about those connecters.I can,t put anything in there tell i find out where they connect to.

What do you call this 3 molex connecter for two fans?And the 8pin and two connecters ,connected together?

Greenslade · Mar 1, 2023

Can anyone tell me what this is called I can't see anything like it on youtube it is to do with the fans but why does it have 2-pin and 6-pin connectors? and why does it have 3 Molex connectors when it is only connected to two fans?

Hugis · Mar 1, 2023

Greenslade said:
Can anyone tell me what this is called I can't see anything like it on youtube it is to do with the fans but why does it have 2-pin and 6-pin connectors? and why does it have 3 Molex connectors when it is only connected to two fans?

Im not 100% sure but it seems that you might have a PSU cable there, cant tell from the photos as its all connected.
Maybe unplug it all and cross reference what you have with an image search.

Greenslade · Mar 1, 2023

Hugis said:
Im not 100% sure but it seems that you might have a PSU cable there, cant tell from the photos as its all connected.
Maybe unplug it all and cross reference what you have with an image search.

The 6-pin connecter looks like it and the rest of the cable.
There are two wires coming from the two front fans t going to whatever it is. I am hoping that 68olds can help me with whatever it is as he has a Lian case , although his case is a lot older. It looks like they have to be used with whatever that connecter is.

It is a shame the front fans don't have normal connectors so I could connect them to the motherboard in the normal way. What would happen if I just connected the two Molex connectors to the PSU?There is no 2 pin on the case.

Here,s another photo I see that the tiny 2-pin connects to a fan like the two in the photo the 6-pin one is EB57.? I looked at my board and was hoping I had three fan headers if I did I would take that connecter off. Why is the third fan not connected to that connecter? Where would I connect the EB57 to? I have looked EB57 and have not come up with what it does.

Hugis · Mar 2, 2023

As i said it is a lot easier to check what you have if you disconnect it all and look it all up via the web, here you go !

Seasonic 6-Pin to 3x Peripheral/Molex Connectors Single Cable - EB57, LB57 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Seasonic 6-Pin to 3x Peripheral/Molex Connectors Single Cable - EB57, LB57 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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the other connectors are just 2 pin fan connectors from the molex pass through i think, again difficult to tell as its blurry and still all connected.

Hope that helps

Greenslade · Mar 2, 2023

Hugis said:
As i said it is a lot easier to check what you have if you disconnect it all and look it all up via the web, here you go !

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Seasonic 6-Pin to 3x Peripheral/Molex Connectors Single Cable - EB57, LB57 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Seasonic 6-Pin to 3x Peripheral/Molex Connectors Single Cable - EB57, LB57 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

the other connectors are just 2 pin fan connectors from the molex pass through i think, again difficult to tell as its blurry and still all connected.

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Hope that helps

Yes it does thanks Hugis.

I looked it up and see i only need this below.I don,t know why the person got that connecter rather than the simple one i have just bought .Plus the fact my one must be a lot cheaper.

4 Pin / 3 Pin PWM Fan Y Splitter Cable / Lead. 1 to 2. 26cm Extension I

I jusr took the heatsink fan out of my firrst PC build because it is very noisey. I was thinking the fan was bunged up with dust..But i was astonished to find there was no dusty in it.

I hope my seconed build will be a lot quiter,and with the new fan tried before i put it in a case i am very hopeful.it is a nice cooler.

Greenslade · Mar 3, 2023

To Lex and anyone who uses eBay, they are asking for me to give them feedback on items that were canceled by the seller. How can I give feedback on something the seller has canceled?

izy · Mar 3, 2023

Greenslade said:
To Lex and anyone who uses eBay, they are asking for me to give them feedback on items that were canceled by the seller. How can I give feedback on something the seller has canceled?

Where there is a will there's a way xD

Ruru · Mar 3, 2023

Interesting.

Greenslade · Mar 3, 2023

Kissamies said:
Interesting.

Clint sure finds some unseal stuff cool.

I see one on eBay
Had this some years works fine on commodore 64 part but never got the pc part to work as mouse never worked from having it, might be a driver problem. Condition:RARE Commodore 64 Web-it Webit Computer Working With Box Manuals c64 CBM then the seller says
For parts or not working?

£450. make an offer.

I like this guy's videos a nice accent too.

RyzenMaster.sys · Mar 4, 2023

I have wanted a Sapphire motherboard for a long time since I'm a huge fan of the company.

Found a Sapphire Pure Platinum A75 FM1 motherboard and bought it.

Sadly things haven't gone to plan. This board is in way worse shape than what I thought. I firstly gave it a good alcohol scrub and dusting, as well as a pch repaste.

The board was pretty reluctant to work and I discovered the board was having some issues with recognizing memory. It would only boot with ram in some slots. If I put every slot full, the bios could see every stick but half of it wasn't accessable and windows shows it as hardware reserved. It also had some issues working with a hd5450 I was trying it with.

Sadly Sapphire refuses to acknowledge they made motherboards and there is no product page, listing, or support whatsoever for these boards on their website. I was able to get a newer bios elsewhere on the web and flash it through dos since early bios versions on this board lack a built in flasher. This fixed the GPU compatibility, but not the memory.

And that's when I took a closer look. There are a bunch of components knocked off beneath the CPU socket, and several of the traces to the memory slots are completely severed. I did talk to the seller and get a refund for this, but it's a shame because these are far too small for me to be able to repair with my abilities.

I also see damage to the USB 3.0 connector on the motherboard.

The board does work well enough to boot to windows and function, but it just is single channel only and only some ram slots work.

lexluthermiester · Mar 4, 2023

Greenslade said:
To Lex and anyone who uses eBay, they are asking for me to give them feedback on items that were canceled by the seller. How can I give feedback on something the seller has canceled?

You don't, ignore them.

RyzenMaster.sys · Mar 4, 2023

I may try to find someone qualified to repair the damaged traces on this motherboard. I know my skill level enough that if I tried to repair this I'd most likely ruin it and make it worse than it already is.

I just don't want to spend $100 for someone to fix a $30 motherboard.

Likely the missing mlccs should be fine, although it could impact stability. I might solder the one that is half on, but otherwise I think that's ok. The traces are a different story.

Greenslade · Mar 4, 2023

Does anyone know where i could get a connector to convert the connecter on this card reader?

68Olds · Mar 4, 2023

That's the Compact Flash connector, isn't it? Don't you already have a CF to IDE adapter that you could use? I seem to remember you playing with one of those as an OS drive.

Greenslade · Mar 4, 2023

I was just ready to put the motherboard i got from eBay in the case ,and to my horror they had sent me the wrong one

I wish i checked when i got it.See the one they sent ,and the board i bought.I am not having much luck with i.o shields

agent_x007 · Mar 4, 2023

Greenslade said:
Does anyone know where i could get a connector to convert the connecter on this card reader?

Looks like standard internal USB 3.0 header to me...

Greenslade · Mar 4, 2023

I got back to the seller and gave him and gave him a choice either he send me the right one or give me a refund of £5 although the cheapest on eBay is £8.35 i .Or i given him a negative feedback, or last resort sending it back to him.He chose to give me the £5.The wrong one he sent me i did i mod job on it as you can see in the photo. If i had the tools could have done a better job.

agent_x007 said:
like standard internal USB 3.0 header to me...

It dose look like it but i only have one on my board.

68Olds said:
That's the Compact Flash connector, isn't it? Don't you already have a CF to IDE adapter that you could use? I seem to remember you playing with one of those as an OS drive.

I want to use it in my new case.As agent_x007 said it looks like USB 3 header ,but i only have one on the board.

Fouquin · Mar 4, 2023

RyzenMaster.sys said:
I have wanted a Sapphire motherboard for a long time since I'm a huge fan of the company.

Found a Sapphire Pure Platinum A75 FM1 motherboard and bought it.
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Sadly things haven't gone to plan. This board is in way worse shape than what I thought. I firstly gave it a good alcohol scrub and dusting, as well as a pch repaste.

The board was pretty reluctant to work and I discovered the board was having some issues with recognizing memory. It would only boot with ram in some slots. If I put every slot full, the bios could see every stick but half of it wasn't accessable and windows shows it as hardware reserved. It also had some issues working with a hd5450 I was trying it with.

Sadly Sapphire refuses to acknowledge they made motherboards and there is no product page, listing, or support whatsoever for these boards on their website. I was able to get a newer bios elsewhere on the web and flash it through dos since early bios versions on this board lack a built in flasher. This fixed the GPU compatibility, but not the memory.

And that's when I took a closer look. There are a bunch of components knocked off beneath the CPU socket, and several of the traces to the memory slots are completely severed. I did talk to the seller and get a refund for this, but it's a shame because these are far too small for me to be able to repair with my abilities.
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I also see damage to the USB 3.0 connector on the motherboard.

The board does work well enough to boot to windows and function, but it just is single channel only and only some ram slots work.

Looks like the damage (mostly) avoided the serpentines, this could be an easy fix with a trace pen. It's such a small break in the traces that I wouldn't be too worried about material spec differences. As for the SMDs I'd guess they're mostly decouplers, so other than a little flutter in power across the circuit it's decoupling from there shouldn't be any reason the board can't work fine without them. I mean unless you're dealing with instability at super high switching frequencies, but on FM1 that seems extremely unlikely.

agent_x007 · Mar 4, 2023

Greenslade said:
I want to use it in my new case.As agent_x007 said it looks like USB 3 header ,but i only have one on the board.

There are 2.0 adapters for 3.0 internal headers, example : LINK

68Olds · Mar 4, 2023

I dunno, it still looks like the Compact Flash connector coming from the CF Slot on that 5.25 accessory panel. :confused:

emissary42 · Mar 5, 2023

RyzenMaster.sys said:
Sadly Sapphire refuses to acknowledge they made motherboards and there is no product page, listing, or support whatsoever for these boards on their website.

If you need specific files, DM me and I'll look through my archives.

RyzenMaster.sys said:
There are a bunch of components knocked off beneath the CPU socket, and several of the traces to the memory slots are completely severed.
I also see damage to the USB 3.0 connector on the motherboard.

The USB3 Connector is the easiest to fix, the traces will be more difficult but are still doable if you have at least some experience with it.

I don't have a macro of the socket backside at hand, but could take one if you need a reference. Edit, just blown up crop:

System Name	Donnager
Processor	13900KS, lapped and contact frame
Motherboard	Asus Z790 Hero
Cooling	Heatkiller IV CPU block, Heatkiller V GPU block, GTX 480mm radiator, D5 pump
Memory	32GB Kingston Fury 7200C38
Video Card(s)	eVGA RTX 3080Ti FTW3
Storage	Optane 380GB M.2 OS drive, M.2 2TB game drive
Display(s)	Alienware 34" Ultrawide 120Hz 3440x1440
Case	Fractal Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s)	Outlaw RR2150 stereo receiver driving DIY kits, Schiit Asgard for Sennheiser HD6XX headphones
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime 1000W

System Name	Office / Gamer Mk IV
Processor	i5 - 12500
Motherboard	TUF GAMING B660-PLUS WIFI D4
Cooling	Themalright Peerless Assassin 120 RGB
Memory	32GB (2x16) Corsair CMK32GX4M2D3600C18 "micron B die"
Video Card(s)	UHD770 / PNY 4060Ti (www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-verto)
Storage	SN850X - P41Plat - SN770 - 980Pro - BX500
Display(s)	Philips 246E9Q 75Hz @ 1920 * 1080
Case	Corsair Carbide 200R
Audio Device(s)	Realtek ALC897 (On Board)
Power Supply	Cooler Master V750 Gold v2
Mouse	Cooler Master MM712
Keyboard	Logitech S530 - mac
Software	Windows 11 Pro

System Name	Office / Gamer Mk IV
Processor	i5 - 12500
Motherboard	TUF GAMING B660-PLUS WIFI D4
Cooling	Themalright Peerless Assassin 120 RGB
Memory	32GB (2x16) Corsair CMK32GX4M2D3600C18 "micron B die"
Video Card(s)	UHD770 / PNY 4060Ti (www.techpowerup.com/review/pny-geforce-rtx-4060-ti-verto)
Storage	SN850X - P41Plat - SN770 - 980Pro - BX500
Display(s)	Philips 246E9Q 75Hz @ 1920 * 1080
Case	Corsair Carbide 200R
Audio Device(s)	Realtek ALC897 (On Board)
Power Supply	Cooler Master V750 Gold v2
Mouse	Cooler Master MM712
Keyboard	Logitech S530 - mac
Software	Windows 11 Pro

System Name	4K-gaming / console
Processor	5800X @ PBO +200 / i5-8600K @ 4.6GHz
Motherboard	ROG Crosshair VII Hero / ROG Strix Z370-F
Cooling	Alphacool Eisbaer 360 / Alphacool Eisbaer 240
Memory	32GB DDR4-3466 / 16GB DDR4-3600
Video Card(s)	Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC / Powercolor RX 6700 XT
Storage	3.5TB of SSDs / several small SSDs
Display(s)	4K120 IPS + 4K60 IPS / 1080p60 HDTV
Case	Corsair 4000D AF White / DeepCool CC560 WH
Audio Device(s)	Sony WH-CH720N / TV speakers
Power Supply	EVGA G2 750W / Fractal ION Gold 550W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk / Logitech G400s
Keyboard	Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO / NOS C450 Mini Pro
VR HMD	Oculus Rift CV1
Software	Windows 11 Pro / Windows 11 Pro
Benchmark Scores	They run Crysis

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D
Motherboard	AsRock B550M Pro4
Cooling	Arctic Freezer 34 Esports One
Memory	32GB (4x8) Team Group DDR4 3600 CL18
Video Card(s)	ELSA RX5700XT w/ 2x Arctic P12 MAX fans
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1tb NVME 3.0
Display(s)	Dual Monitors: 27in Sceptre 1440p 165hz IPS (Main) + 27in MSI 1080p 144hz (Left) on monitor arms
Case	I don't want to talk about it
Audio Device(s)	Logitech X530 5.1 Spearkers + Sennheiser HD58X Jubilee
Power Supply	Corsair HX850i 80+ Platinum
Mouse	Logitech G502
Keyboard	Leopold FC750R Cherry MX Brown
Software	Microsoft Windows 10 Professional x64

System Name	Gamer
Processor	Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard	Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI
Cooling	Apogee XL, MCR360, MCP655, Micro-rez
Memory	2x16GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL16
Video Card(s)	Red Dragon RX 6800 XT
Storage	WD SN850 1TB & SN750 1TB
Display(s)	LG 32GK650F-B 32" 1440p 144Hz
Case	Rocketfish (Lian Li) e-ATX
Audio Device(s)	Harman Kardon HK695 2.1
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus GM-750
Mouse	HP Gaming wired
Keyboard	Logitech G110 wired
VR HMD	HP WMR 1440^2
Software	Win10 Pro 64bit

System Name	BOX
Processor	Core i7 6950X @ 4,26GHz (1,28V)
Motherboard	X99 SOC Champion (BIOS F23c + bifurcation mod)
Cooling	Thermalright Venomous-X + 2x Delta 38mm PWM (Push-Pull)
Memory	Patriot Viper Steel 4000MHz CL16 4x8GB (@3240MHz CL12.12.12.24 CR2T @ 1,48V)
Video Card(s)	Titan V (~1650MHz @ 0.77V, HBM2 1GHz, Forced P2 state [OFF])
Storage	WD SN850X 2TB + Samsung EVO 2TB (SATA) + Seagate Exos X20 20TB (4Kn mode)
Display(s)	LG 27GP950-B
Case	Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL
Audio Device(s)	Motu M4 (audio interface) + ATH-A900Z + Behringer C-1
Power Supply	Seasonic X-760 (760W)
Mouse	Logitech RX-250
Keyboard	HP KB-9970
Software	Windows 10 Pro x64

System Name	Neverending Story
Processor	7700X / 4790K / 4670K / G3258 / 3770K / 8750 / 6800K / 5800K / 3870K / QX6700 / 6500K / 5750M
Motherboard	X670H / Z97X-SOCF / Z77X-UP5 / Z77CROWN-U1D / F2A88X-UP4 / A75-UD4H / IX48-GT3 / BlackOps / FS1r2A75
Cooling	HR-22 / Silver Arrow IB-E / Archon SB-E / Mega Shadow / TRUE-Black
Memory	Corsair Dominator GT / GTX / Platinum, G.SKILL Flare / Perfect Storm / Pi / Trident (X/Z), OCZ Blade
Video Card(s)	mostly obscure stuff
Case	Lancool / Silverstone / Thermaltake / Cubitek
Audio Device(s)	-
Power Supply	80plus Platinum
Software	-
Benchmark Scores	-

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