Ryzen Owners Zen Garden

[AusWolf]

sounds like you just haven't found the right kits and platforms for it

Stuff becomes habit but I can understand why a particularly unlucky or bad experience puts new users off of AMD forever. There's so much time wasting crap now, CO and limits, X3D driver stuff for 2CCD, RAM, optimize Windows......for us picky people we can eventually appreciate that some things are more nuanced than "AMD bad" but the average user is not interested

For me, it's not that it's a bad experience. It's more like the fact that the benefits of RAM OC and fine-tuning are undetectable in basically every program in existence, except for maybe the AIDA64 memory benchmark. Unless chasing numbers is your hobby, RAM OC is utterly pointless, imo.

 

[freeagent]

Let's be honest, I just don't wanna pay extra for "special" RAM

There’s the problem

 

[R-T-B]

RTB, you summed it up well. Tinkering is a hobby and pastime for some people.

Didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I've been there too.

 

[tabascosauz]

For me, it's not that it's a bad experience. It's more like the fact that the benefits of RAM OC and fine-tuning are undetectable in basically every program in existence, except for maybe the AIDA64 memory benchmark. Unless chasing numbers is your hobby, RAM OC is utterly pointless, imo.

When you have an iGPU, things change dramatically.

I wouldn't say "undetectable", just situational and not at lower framerates, and the act of changing ICs arguably has a bigger impact than what you do with it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Didn't say there was anything wrong with it. I've been there too.

Oh man, sorry it came off that way. I wasn't making any implications. Just throwing out a thought...

 

[R-T-B]

Oh man, sorry it came off that way. I wasn't making any implications. Just throwing out a thought...

lol no worries man.

 

[tpa-pr]

Well, it seems I have fallen down the tweaking rabbit hole! I decided to enable PBO with a -30 offset (all cores) and an 85C temp limit on my 7700x. As a layman, this is absolute black magic to me. I have squeezed over 480 extra points out of Cinebench while the chip uses less power and runs cooler! I have also experimented with undervolting my GPU, i'll post that in the 6000 series thread

 

[tabascosauz]

Well, it seems I have fallen down the tweaking rabbit hole! I decided to enable PBO with a -30 offset (all cores) and an 85C temp limit on my 7700x. As a layman, this is absolute black magic to me. I have squeezed over 480 extra points out of Cinebench while the chip uses less power and runs cooler! I have also experimented with undervolting my GPU, i'll post that in the 6000 series thread

Sounds like there's room to try for -50

 

[freeagent]

Those things must scale like crazy. I have not looked into what they can do at all..

I wanted to keep it a surprise

 

[Space Lynx]

@Gmr_Chick do you run a negative curve optimizer on your 7700x? I can't remember, but I think that would help your temps while simultaneously give extra performance, it's a really a win win, but I don't understand it fully, I just do minus 30 like everyone says to try first then if that doesn't work do minus 20

 

[freeagent]

For me, I feed the CPU the maximum amount of power the socket will give that particular CPU, and then I set my curve to that

I tried the "proper" way, but this CPU likes it ruff. And so does my 5600X.. my X3D is a meow meow..

 

[Space Lynx]

For me, I feed the CPU the maximum amount of power the socket will give that particular CPU, and then I set my curve to that

I tried the "proper" way, but this CPU likes it ruff. And so does my 5600X.. my X3D is a meow meow..

I just left everything stock, turned on xmp and - 30 all core, and away I went. Been stable and games been smooth as heck.

 

[freeagent]

I just left everything stock, turned on xmp and - 30 all core, and away I went. Been stable and games been smooth as heck.

I used to run my X3D at -30, but it failed OCCT, so I dialed it back to -25 and it seems ok there.

 

[AusWolf]

For me, I feed the CPU the maximum amount of power the socket will give that particular CPU, and then I set my curve to that

I tried the "proper" way, but this CPU likes it ruff. And so does my 5600X.. my X3D is a meow meow..

My 7800X3D is basically plug'n'play. It eats half of its power target while keeping maximum boost at all times (5 GHz single-core, 4.8 GHz all-core). If I didn't know better, I would think it's an old Intel i7 or a Ryzen 3.

 

[freeagent]

5 GHz single-core, 4.8 GHz all-core).

Thats about where I have my 5900X.. But I had to work for it a little lol.. not box settings at all..

But right now just installing some games from Epic..

 

[tabascosauz]

I used to run my X3D at -30, but it failed OCCT, so I dialed it back to -25 and it seems ok there.

Thats about where I have my 5900X.. But I had to work for it a little lol.. not box settings at all..

But right now just installing some games from Epic..

Well, if you want you can always go do AGESA 120A

then you can probably have your -30...........along with horrendous thermals and performance

SOmetimes I wish I kept my 5900X, Fabric on that one was a trooper. Now my B-die is just wasting away at 3733.........waiting for the day I upgrade to DDR5 and put the kit with my 5700G so it can have some real fun

 

[freeagent]

Well, if you want you can always go do AGESA 120A

I am such an idiot, that is what I am running

I love it, It will let me feed over 250w lol.. danger..

Runs right up to 90 just fine

 

[AusWolf]

Thats about where I have my 5900X.. But I had to work for it a little lol.. not box settings at all..

But right now just installing some games from Epic..

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That's very nice from a Zen 3!

I am such an idiot, that is what I am running

I love it, It will let me feed over 250w lol.. danger..

Runs right up to 90 just fine

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That on the other hand... omg!

 

[Space Lynx]

@freeagent never ran OCCT cause i never had an issue with gaming or anything, so i just ran OCCT based on your comment, within 2 minutes it was like nope you aint doing -30 all core buddy, nice fucking try though

lol

so I took your advice again, -25 all core in bios under CO - reboot - run OCCT - im 20 minutes in and 0 issues and temps are 67 celsius basically the entire time.

nice to know I am fully stable now. will leave it this way and be content, cheers for the help, now i can get back to gaming


edit: that 67 celsius is with stock fans, i noticed my two rear exahust fans really aren't blowing much at all, so going to increase their fan curve just to a mild/medium fan curve of stock, i can prob bring that 67 down to 64 or 62 and still won't be that loud.

one thing that impresses me about 7900 xt is how many games i play and the fans never even turn on... its wild to me, never experienced anything like this. just cause temps are so good cause the game is so easy to run, now in god of war or something, of course the fans ramp up but yeah cool stuff. dust can suck it

 

[tabascosauz]

I am such an idiot, that is what I am running

If actual performance was fine I would use it, but 120A introduced a lot of very visible stuttering in-game so it was a no-go. Maybe clocks dropping. Don't like having to fight my CPU just so it performs properly.

 

[freeagent]

If actual performance was fine I would use it, but 120A introduced a lot of very visible stuttering in-game so it was a no-go. Maybe clocks dropping. Don't like having to fight my CPU just so it performs properly.

Really eh? Got this fancy new video card but haven’t gamed since my XE passed, and like 2 days after it died it got 120A.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

I just built a Ryzen 7000 system. Now I'm resisting the urge to update my gaming PC. ****.


Things are running smooth so far with BIOS 7D75v174, AGESA 1.0.0.7c.

 

[piresxz]

When trying to flash my bricked gpu using bios it aays Newer rom version already programmed and it doesn’t flash it

 

[tabascosauz]

When trying to flash my bricked gpu using bios it aays Newer rom version already programmed and it doesn’t flash it

Create a thread in GPU subforum if you need help. Do not spam threads.

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[freeagent]

Hey, one thing that I noticed since leaving B550 for X570..

My keyboard doesn't randomly disconnect on boots anymore..

Lol..