TPU's Nostalgic Hardware Club

[lexluthermiester]

2024 already looks great for me
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The VLB mobo needs work as it won't detect the VLB cards at all, only standard ISA.

Also yay, no leaky Varta on the mobo! It factory came out with a external battery very likely.

You have some very nice parts there!! Good start to the year indeed!

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

i have a question about the RTC's (Realtime Clocks) models Dallas DS1287 and ST M48T86PCI (or PC1?)

I asked a Youtuber about this, and he said that i can swap these 2 for each other

I checked online for the pinouts of these 24 pin RTC's and find that only 2 pins are different on these 2. (Pin21 and Pin13)

Anyone have more info?

The Dallas DS1287

https://ardent-tool.com/datasheets/Dallas_DS1287.pdf

The ST M48T86PCI

https://www.st.com/resource/en/datasheet/cd00001009.pdf

(page 7/36)



My ST RTC:

Help will be appreciated

 

[Mr.Scott]

Pin 13 is the same. Just different terminology.
For pin 21, you would be putting RTL pin in a no connection hole.
Can't confirm if it will work, but it won't hurt anything if it doesn't.

 

[Greenslade]

Is it worth buying this MSI MPG X570 Gaming EDGE MAX WIFI AM4 ATX AMD Motherboard Faulty FAMD6 £59
30 day customer return, stated a faulty but no reason given. Unable to test due to no test CPU.He has other faulty boards for sale none inclued CPU.s .So could it be a case of trying a cpu in there?And is £59 pound to much for a faulty board?Can anyone see any damage there?Is it worth taking a punt on it ,or is it to riskey?

 

[lexluthermiester]

i have a question about the RTC's (Realtime Clocks) models Dallas DS1287 and ST M48T86PCI (or PC1?)

I asked a Youtuber about this, and he said that i can swap these 2 for each other

Pin 13 is the same. Just different terminology.
For pin 21, you would be putting RTL pin in a no connection hole.
Can't confirm if it will work, but it won't hurt anything if it doesn't.

I've actually done this! There is a catch and it's not an easy one to know ahead of time. These parts are perfectly interchangeable on most, but not all, boards of the time. As MrScott said, if it doesn't work, it will not hurt anything. You have about a 94% chance of it working perfectly as is, a 5% chance that you will have to find were the RCL line(pin21) goes to and bodge a wire from that pin to the proper contact and a 1% chance it will not work at all.

You should be good to go.

EDIT:
Also Clint did another LGR Oddware thing!

Clint, you're awesome! Don't EVER change!

 

[MaxiPro800]

Nice way to spend the evening. Original DMS4 reinstall in a v7 SCPH-39004 PS2 I picked up today.

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

This is amazing:

 

[Voodoo Rufus]

Here's a 'kinda sorta retro but not really' update I posted to another forum:

As part of my misadventures in retro rig building, I decided to attempt getting Win7 running on my old primary rig board, a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master with an 8350K I grabbed off of ebay and re-lidded with Conductonaut, a new Nextorage 1TB NVMe and Kingston Fury 3600C16 memory. I got a nearly fully updated custom Win7 ISO, and wham bam, what do you know, it installed fine. The only things that Snappy Driver and some internet digging could not install were the Wifi/Bluetooth drivers (hardwired anyway so don't need) and the non-existent Nvidia USB-C driver. It took a little digging but no issues getting the Realtek ALC1220 running either (driver from an GB X370 board did the trick). Also, the Kingston ram booted XMP with no issues and passed Memtest86+ with flying colors, when this same board absolutely hated my Gskill 3200C14 kit. Go figure.

I still have to OC this thing and benchmark it, but this should be an absolute killer Windows 7 machine for Dirt 2/3 and Crysis. It'll be fun comparing GPU and CPU performance with Crysis on this versus my Devils Canyon 4790K and Broadwell 5775C CPUs.

I basically have come full circle on all these hardware swaps. First I got into Z97 for both WinXP and 7 with an Asus Maximus Impact and an Asrock Z97 Anniversary (running in my super mean WinXP build). I originally wanted to get a max Win7 build on an eVGA Z97 Classified (went to Win10 and failed to dual boot it with Win7 because of BIOS issues. Reverted to older BIOS versions fixed the Win10 issues). Bought an Asus Z97 Hero because I wanted NVMe. And now I got Win7 running on my original main rig parts that were retired when I built my new Raptor Lake machine. Lol.....

Maybe I'll put this 8350K in the wife's rig and steal my 8086K back for this machine. Seems fitting for a beast Win7 build.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Here's a 'kinda sorta retro but not really' update I posted to another forum:

As part of my misadventures in retro rig building, I decided to attempt getting Win7 running on my old primary rig board, a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master with an 8350K I grabbed off of ebay and re-lidded with Conductonaut, a new Nextorage 1TB NVMe and Kingston Fury 3600C16 memory. I got a nearly fully updated custom Win7 ISO, and wham bam, what do you know, it installed fine. The only things that Snappy Driver and some internet digging could not install were the Wifi/Bluetooth drivers (hardwired anyway so don't need) and the non-existent Nvidia USB-C driver. It took a little digging but no issues getting the Realtek ALC1220 running either (driver from an GB X370 board did the trick). Also, the Kingston ram booted XMP with no issues and passed Memtest86+ with flying colors, when this same board absolutely hated my Gskill 3200C14 kit. Go figure.

I still have to OC this thing and benchmark it, but this should be an absolute killer Windows 7 machine for Dirt 2/3 and Crysis. It'll be fun comparing GPU and CPU performance with Crysis on this versus my Devils Canyon 4790K and Broadwell 5775C CPUs.

I basically have come full circle on all these hardware swaps. First I got into Z97 for both WinXP and 7 with an Asus Maximus Impact and an Asrock Z97 Anniversary (running in my super mean WinXP build). I originally wanted to get a max Win7 build on an eVGA Z97 Classified (went to Win10 and failed to dual boot it with Win7 because of BIOS issues. Reverted to older BIOS versions fixed the Win10 issues). Bought an Asus Z97 Hero because I wanted NVMe. And now I got Win7 running on my original main rig parts that were retired when I built my new Raptor Lake machine. Lol.....

Maybe I'll put this 8350K in the wife's rig and steal my 8086K back for this machine. Seems fitting for a beast Win7 build.

I would be interested in bench results between that and Devil's Canyon.
I have Z370 I was thinking of doing the same thing on. Maybe dual boot with XP?

 

[Voodoo Rufus]

The question there is if you can source drivers for a Z370 to run XP on. My understanding was that XP driver support ended with Intel 4th gen.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Has to be a way. I see people running XP on Z390.
I have XP on Z170 now.

 

[Voodoo Rufus]

Thanks, Scott. You have now sent me down another rabbit hole. There's people trying to run 10th and 11th gen on XP now.

Compiling ACPI v2.0 driver for Windows XP SP3 and Windows 2003 SP2 (x32/x64)

msfn.org

 

[Mr.Scott]

Thanks, Scott. You have now sent me down another rabbit hole. There's people trying to run 10th and 11th gen on XP now.

Compiling ACPI v2.0 driver for Windows XP SP3 and Windows 2003 SP2 (x32/x64)

msfn.org

You already know that hole has no bottom. Don't put it on me. lol

 

[lexluthermiester]

Thanks, Scott. You have now sent me down another rabbit hole. There's people trying to run 10th and 11th gen on XP now.

Compiling ACPI v2.0 driver for Windows XP SP3 and Windows 2003 SP2 (x32/x64)

msfn.org

Has to be a way. I see people running XP on Z390.
I have XP on Z170 now.

Question, is this for fun or is there a practical purpose for using XP on newer hardware?

 

[Ruru]

Dunno why but I dug up two older HP laptops from my closet so let's install their original OSes (Vista Home Basic & Business) with their original cd keys. Though more have 2GB more RAM than stock so Vista won't be that sluggish.

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Nice way to spend the evening. Original DMS4 reinstall in a v7 SCPH-39004 PS2 I picked up today.

Damn. I have a DMS4 Lite from a broken PS2 but no clue how to install that.

 

[68Olds]

Question, is this for fun or is there a practical purpose for using XP on newer hardware?

Benchmarking. There are certain older benches that run better on XP than any other OS.

 

[Voodoo Rufus]

Benchmarking is about it. For any normal gaming purposes, even if you tweak the games for widescreen and modern display resolutions and max AA, you only need so much horsepower for DX9 games.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Haswell pretty much maxs out DX9 gaming.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Haswell pretty much maxs out DX9 gaming.

WestmereEP is a much better option.

 

[MaxiPro800]

Finally ran 3dMark01 on the dual P3 1GHz.

 

[wolf]

Today was a good day for the collection

GeForce 3 Ti200 - $? wont know what I'm paying until I can confirm dead or working, never had one of these, rare enough find.

This cheap and cheerful older group, all reported to be working as of last use, for the bargain sum of 5 bucks. 5$ AUD. Even if some don't I can repurpose coolers onto similar cards.

In a clockwise circle, starting top left and ending in the center.

HD6850 1G - 6600GT 128M - 8500GS 512M LP - 7600GS 512M - 9600GT 1G - 8500GT 256M - GT630 2G

 

[MaxiPro800]

A fine addition to my dual Coppermine machine.

10K Seagate Cheetah ST336607LW. 36GB worth of sweet 2000s angle grinder sounds.

 

[Greenslade]

Does anyone know this errer code on a dignostic card
c5c3 ?I am trying to get two boards going,not having much luck. This one M7NCDU is one that i tried to get working sometime back but never managed to.Somehow i have got further with it this time. The other one A7V600 was working untel i took it out of its case and changed the CPU and that has not worked since.As lomg as i get one working i will be happyThe speaker buzzer is not buzzing on the M7NCDU

 

[68Olds]

Does anyone know this errer code on a dignostic card
c5c3 ?

Do you have a link to your diagnostic card? By that I mean is there a make & model for the card that you can provide us?

What BIOS are you working with? AMI? Award? Phoenix?

 

[Susquehannock]

Nothing new to report. Been playing some Quake2 and Max Payne on the Voodoo4 socket A system mentioned in post #7033. Minus the Bigfoot drive.

Still runs perfectly. Nostalgia to the max.

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post #18,000. Do I win a cookie?