is radeon RX 6750 XT a steal ?

[oxrufiioxo]

I'd say, that depends...

If you spend 2x on your GPU, and it lasts 2x as long, then it's the same deal as spending half and replacing it halfway through, isn't it? This is where performance-per-dollar figures come into play.

Another thing is keeping your needs in check. If you're ok with 40 FPS at 1080p, then you'll be happy with a 4060 Ti for years to come. However, if you want 120 FPS at 4K, then chances are, you're gonna be looking at replacing your 4090 as soon as Blackwell is out because it's just not good enough.

I think people get a bit too hung up over pricing just buy the best gpu you can afford and everything else will work itself out.

I've pretty much lived in the high end over the last 16 years and some cards were great for 4+ years other were struggling after 2 you never know and it really doesn't matter if it's entry level or 1600 usd just get the best card in your price range and live with it it's not like you could have purchased better in a way that would give you a meaningful difference long term.

I doubt any of the gpus will age all that different in the OP price range they'll all struggle in a couple years unless you turn down settings thankfully his requirements are 1080p/60 which give him the best chances of his hardware aging well.

And if he's OK with DLSS/FSR at that resolution maybe it will last 4-5 years.....

 

[AusWolf]

I think people get a bit too hung up over pricing just buy the best gpu you can afford and everything else will work itself out.

I've pretty much lived in the high end over the last 16 years and some cards were great for 4+ years other were struggling after 2 you never know and it really doesn't matter if it's entry level or 1600 usd just get the best card in your price range and live with it it's not like you could have purchased better in a way that would give you a meaningful difference long term.

I doubt any of the gpus will age all that different in the OP price range they'll all struggle in a couple years unless you turn down settings thankfully his requirements are 1080p/60 which give him the best chances of his hardware aging well.

And if he's OK with DLSS/FSR at that resolution maybe it will last 4-5 years.....

I agree, except in rare instances when spending 10-20% more would give you a 50% better GPU, like in OP's 400 EUR 6750 XT example. I'm sure saving up for another month or two, and buying a 7700 or 7800 XT would be money much better spent. Here, the 6750 XT is like sticking with a 6500 XT for 200 because the 7600 for 300 is too far away in price (50% higher price, at least double the performance).

This is where higher mid-range has been historically great so far. You get multiples of the performance of low-end with a much smaller extra investment, whereas if you moved higher in price, you wouldn't get proportionately more performance (diminishing returns).

 

[Vayra86]

I'd say, that depends...

If you spend 2x on your GPU, and it lasts 2x as long, then it's the same deal as spending half and replacing it halfway through, isn't it? This is where performance-per-dollar figures come into play.

Another thing is keeping your needs in check. If you're ok with 40 FPS at 1080p, then you'll be happy with a 4060 Ti for years to come. However, if you want 120 FPS at 4K, then chances are, you're gonna be looking at replacing your 4090 as soon as Blackwell is out because it's just not good enough.

Of course it depends, that's the entire point of this now several page long torture test lol. But +40% raster and 16GB at 500,- vs a 4060ti 8GB at 400? Hmmmmmm

I agree, except in rare instances when spending 10-20% more would give you a 50% better GPU, like in OP's 400 EUR 6750 XT example. I'm sure saving up for another month or two, and buying a 7700 or 7800 XT would be money much better spent. Here, the 6750 XT is like sticking with a 6500 XT for 200 because the 7600 for 300 is too far away in price (50% higher price, at least double the performance).

This is where higher mid-range has been historically great so far. You get multiples of the performance of low-end with a much smaller extra investment, whereas if you moved higher in price, you wouldn't get proportionately more performance (diminishing returns).

Precisely.. the.. point...

It's not perspective when I have the actual data being I benchmark (not a gamer), this data across 50+ 3D Benchmarks.

So you're saying saving 50 bucks was smarter than waiting the week ( thread past this time period) and having the extra 50$ to cover a slightly more expensive, but 15% to 20% faster card, from the box without OC?

Your perspective is shit.
I've benched
Rx 6400
6500 XT (Mgpu also)
6600 XT
6650 XT
6700 XT (Mgpu)
6800 XT

NV
RTX
3050
3060
3060 ti
4060 ti
4070 S

Probably some in between. I'd have to look.
At 50 benchmarks each, that's a lot of data to work with.

The 6800 is a little slower than the 4070 S, slightly faster than a 4060 ti.

NO, I've been saying the whole time, save $100,- more instead and get a 7800XT. Or a 4070. See I don't care if people buy Nvidia or AMD. I care about buying well rounded GPUs that last, especially if the perf/$ ratio is much better. You won't see me recommending a past-gen card at a premium ever.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Of course it depends, that's the entire point of this now several page long torture test lol. But +40% raster and 16GB at 500,- vs a 4060ti 8GB at 400? Hmmmmmm


Precisely.. the.. point...


NO, I've been saying the whole time, save $100,- more instead and get a 7800XT. Or a 4070. See I don't care if people buy Nvidia or AMD. I care about buying well rounded GPUs that last, especially if the perf/$ ratio is much better. You won't see me recommending a past-gen card at a premium ever.

Ok, I get it. Makes sense.
A lot of those cards when new where big money in comparison to the sales today. A 6700 XT was 400$+ at one point, maybe a year ago or so. But then we'd been comparing to 3000 series NV.

Gaming ain't easy. We can all have an opinion on pricing to performance, but the pricing is always changing. In that aspect, I can say it's safe to say that 400$ I spent on a 6700 XT is not the same value and performance of spending 400$ today.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

NO, I've been saying the whole time, save $100,- more instead and get a 7800XT. Or a 4070. See I don't care if people buy Nvidia or AMD. I care about buying well rounded GPUs that last, especially if the perf/$ ratio is much better. You won't see me recommending a past-gen card at a premium ever.

the problem is the OP doesn't seem to want to I mentioned pretty much the same thing and although I was probably harsher on the 4060ti than most I wouldn't bet 400 or more usd on it having any sort of legs at the same time if that is what the OP chose I hope I'm wrong about it.

That being said the OP already got pretty much every pro and negative view of the card it's up to him at this point to decide what to invest in and only he will have to live with that decision if it runs out of steam prior to him being able to upgrade again.

Yes the 500 ish usd cards from both gpu makers are substantially better than the 400 usd option and worth every penny over them but if the OP has decided 100 usd more is too much that's pretty much irrelevant.

 

[AusWolf]

that 400$ I spent on a 6700 XT is not the same value and performance of spending 400$ today.

Exactly. I myself bought a 6750 XT for a bit over £400 two years ago which was normal. Now, with the 7700 XT out and costing not much more than that, £400 (or €) is a terrible price for a 6750 XT.

 

[Vayra86]

the problem is the OP doesn't seem to want to I mentioned pretty much the same thing and although I was probably harsher on the 4060ti than most I wouldn't bet 400 or more usd on it having any sort of legs at the same time if that is what the OP chose I hope I'm wrong about it.

That being said the OP already got pretty much every pro and negative view of the card it's up to him at this point to decide what to invest in and only he will have to live with that decision if it runs out of steam prior to him being able to upgrade again.

Yes the 500 ish usd cards from both gpu makers are substantially better than the 400 usd option and worth every penny over them but if the OP has decided 100 usd more is too much that's pretty much irrelevant.

Yeah the pros and negatives were already done on page 4 or 5 for me too, but some individuals insisted to go the extra mile and pull me apart about why on earth I could not get in line and recommend a 4060ti too... at 400 bucks. Heck I even said its time to get the topic locked lol. I was done.

To those who persisted (and fail to read, don't get me started on pointing that out, we'll arrive on page 10 np) ... Sorry but I don't do bad advice. I provide only realism. We can sugar coat a 4060ti for the good feelz but who benefits? Its just not my style. I've seen too many people living their illusion and then get the reality check at the least favorable time. Ofc now its just a GPU. But man. Its just a GPU. Surely we're allowed to disagree on it? Page 7. Apparently it was hard to swallow for some. Guess I didn't warn OP for nothing

 

[soundzen]

thank you all about your passionate amd debate but this lady put in more money and chose nvidia rtx 4070. cheers!

 

[Sunny and 75]

thank you all about your passionate amd debate but this lady put in more money and chose nvidia rtx 4070. cheers!
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Congratz on the upgrade.

May it serve you well.

 

[Vayra86]

thank you all about your passionate amd debate but this lady put in more money and chose nvidia rtx 4070. cheers!
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Glad you made a sensible choice and kept the 4060ti love story where it belongs. In the gutter! Enjoy the card!

 

[soundzen]

thank you guys... i need to change my Abysm cpu air cooler because of the gap - im afraid the heat from the radiator will damage my gpu back plate (looking into AIO 120mm)

 

[Sound_Card]

I skipped the last 4 pages, but people were actually recommending a 4060ti ...

 

[soundzen]

AIO cooler 120mm

what is the best AIO water cooler 120mm under 60€ ??? it must be white kit and no RGB on the fan !!!

www.techpowerup.com

 

[AusWolf]

thank you guys... i need to change my Abysm cpu air cooler because of the gap - im afraid the heat from the radiator will damage my gpu back plate (looking into AIO 120mm)

Nah, the 12600K shouldn't produce so much heat to affect your GPU in any meaningful way. I bet your exhaust air is only slightly above room temp.

If it really bothers you, you could just rotate the cooler 90 degrees, so that it blows towards the top of your chassis, but it's really not worth the hassle, imo.

 

[dgianstefani]

thank you guys... i need to change my Abysm cpu air cooler because of the gap - im afraid the heat from the radiator will damage my gpu back plate (looking into AIO 120mm)

It won't.

Absolutely do not buy a 120 mm AIO, or even an AIO at all.

Get a Thermalright or a Noctua tower cooler.

Peerless Assassin 140 WHITE – Thermalright

www.thermalright.com

 

[ShrimpBrime]

thank you all about your passionate amd debate but this lady put in more money and chose nvidia rtx 4070. cheers!
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Good choice. 4070 is a pretty fast card.
Let's see some benchmarks!

 

[Dr. Dro]

I skipped the last 4 pages, but people were actually recommending a 4060ti ...

Why not? It's a better card than literally anything AMD has at the same segment, current or previous generation. The 4070 was a financial stretch that the OP ultimately took but did not initially plan for. If you recommend the 7600 XT but not the 4060 Ti, you're not being honest with anyone including yourself. The 7700 XT falls outside the 4060 Ti's scope of a low-power card, and has an inferior feature set.

 

[Vayra86]

Why not? It's a better card than literally anything AMD has at the same segment, current or previous generation. The 4070 was a financial stretch that the OP ultimately took but did not initially plan for. If you recommend the 7600 XT but not the 4060 Ti, you're not being honest with anyone including yourself. The 7700 XT falls outside the 4060 Ti's scope of a low-power card, and has an inferior feature set.

We're talking a 4060ti at 400 bucks though. That's a crucial point here.

If the thing was 300, or 250, by all means jump. But at 400 it just prices itself way out of competitive (often faster) alternatives. That's when you need to make the reality check that the OP wisely made. I don't really think this was ever a battle between AMD and Nvidia to begin with. Its just 'get me a good GPU for X price'.

 

[dgianstefani]

We're talking a 4060ti at 400 bucks though. That's a crucial point here.

If the thing was 300, or 250, by all means jump. But at 400 it just prices itself way out of competitive (often faster) alternatives. That's when you need to make the reality check that the OP wisely made. I don't really think this was ever a battle between AMD and Nvidia to begin with. Its just 'get me a good GPU for X price'.

*$370

 

[soundzen]

Good choice. 4070 is a pretty fast card.
Let's see some benchmarks!

here you go @ShrimpBrime --> https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/post-your-cinebench-2024-score.313247/post-5283368

 

[dirtyferret]

We're talking a 4060ti at 400 bucks though. That's a crucial point here.

If the thing was 300, or 250, by all means jump.

as an owner of the 4060ti, for $400 it's outrageous. It's a $300 card, maybe $329 tops at the start of the year but not half way through 2024. Thing is I can make a case for virtually every card being over priced

 

[Sound_Card]

Why not? It's a better card than literally anything AMD has at the same segment, current or previous generation. The 4070 was a financial stretch that the OP ultimately took but did not initially plan for. If you recommend the 7600 XT but not the 4060 Ti, you're not being honest with anyone including yourself. The 7700 XT falls outside the 4060 Ti's scope of a low-power card, and has an inferior feature set.

The 4060ti 16gb cost nearly the same as the 7800xt and gets wrecked.
The 4060ti 8gb as someone pointed out, should cost $300. "Superior RT performance" - ... it's 8gb, it has the shelf life of milk. It's not using ray tracing past 720p in a year or two.

Inferior feature set? The Radeons can do upscaling, virtual super sampling, anti-lag, sharpening, frame generation, AV1, and ray tracing ... am I missing something?

The 7900gre is the best bang for buck video card for high end. I personally, would have gotten that OP over the 4070. But at least you didn't humiliate yourself with the 4060ti 16gb.

 

[Lost_Troll]

thank you guys... i need to change my Abysm cpu air cooler because of the gap - im afraid the heat from the radiator will damage my gpu back plate (looking into AIO 120mm)

Your CPU cooler is fine, your case on the other hand, is a complete abomination. I would save your money and get a better case and fans. There are some really budget friendly mATX chassis out there now, like the Lan Li Dan A3 or the JonsPlus Z series.

Oh, and just so you know, I used that case for a budget build for a Frend of mine, and I keep asking her if I could get it back so I can change the case out and then smash it with a sledgehammer.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The 4060ti 16gb cost nearly the same as the 7800xt and gets wrecked.
The 4060ti 8gb as someone pointed out, should cost $300. "Superior RT performance" - ... it's 8gb, it has the shelf life of milk. It's not using ray tracing past 720p in a year or two.

Inferior feature set? The Radeons can do upscaling, virtual super sampling, anti-lag, sharpening, frame generation, AV1, and ray tracing ... am I missing something?

The 7900gre is the best bang for buck video card for high end. I personally, would have gotten that OP over the 4070. But at least you didn't humiliate yourself with the 4060ti 16gb.

Did you read the thread at all?

 

[Melvis]

It was for me when I got mine last yr, it was by far the cheapest to performance ratio card I could get and I still got it from USA and imported it over still worked out to be cheaper.....and plays all my 200+ games at 1440P flat out, so Im happy.