Windows 11 General Discussion

Onasi · Jul 19, 2024

Continuing from the topic of Win 11 popping up on unsupported PCs and then not actually being available, I think that it WAS a glitch like me and @lexluthermiester have suspected. Possibly caused by this:

Windows 11 23H2 is now broadly available to all "seekers"

Starting July 17, Microsoft is releasing Windows 11 23H2 to users with eligible devices who manually check for updates. This means that the OS won't yet

winaero.com

Probably MS messed something up when adding 23H2 to the broadest possible channel. Goes to show that they absolutely DO have means of distributing the new OS to everyone without any requirements, they just choose not to. We knew this already, but… good to know.

micropage7 · Jul 19, 2024

anyone experience massive slow process on win 11 after the latest update? everything is normal, just it's not fluid like it should
feels like running XP with pentium 2

P4-630 · Jul 19, 2024

micropage7 said:
anyone experience massive slow process on win 11 after the latest update? everything is normal, just it's not fluid like it should
feels like running XP with pentium 2

Patch Tuesday in your country?...

Bill_Bright · Jul 19, 2024

micropage7 said:
anyone experience massive slow process on win 11 after the latest update? everything is normal, just it's not fluid like it should

If you use cloud based apps, you might be experiencing problems related to the ongoing CrowdStrike outage affecting 10s of millions of computers world wide. CrowdStrike pushed out an faulty update that caused many Windows based computers to crash, which, in turn, caused many systems globally to either crash, or greatly slow down.

CrowdStrike is in the process of rolling back that flawed update, but obviously it will take awhile.

Lucky for you because many affected were seeing BSODs. At least you were not dead in the water.

Now if you are not using any cloud based apps, then as Roseanne Roseannadanna would say, "Never mind".

theFOoL · Jul 20, 2024

Something Good for you Pro/Home Edition Users

LINK

Frick · Jul 22, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
Wait, what? Tell us more.

Not much to tell. I was away for four weeks, and when I came home and started the computer I was greeted by that full screen Get Windows 11 now screen, prior to login. Before that Windows Update has always said the computer isn't compatible (because I turned off TPM in BIOS).

theFOoL · Jul 22, 2024

Oh if only it was better developed *Better built-in with the Hardware

P4-630 · Jul 22, 2024

My i3 7100U laptop isn't eligible to install windows 11....
Question, if I do a clean install anyway, does M$ block my windows 10 OEM key it's running?

In other words would windows 11 get a valid upgrade with the 10 Key it has?

MrBanana · Jul 22, 2024

P4-630 said:
My i3 7100U laptop isn't eligible to install windows 11....
Question, if I do a clean install anyway, does M$ block my windows 10 OEM key it's running?

In other words would windows 11 get a valid upgrade with the 10 Key it has?

You can activate Win11 with a Win10 key. So it should work.

P4-630 · Jul 22, 2024

MrBanana said:
You can activate Win11 with a Win10 key. So it should work.

But my laptop doesn't officially support it... So would it still work without buying a new key...

Doesn't M$ block these hardware combos keys that don't support 11

Onasi · Jul 22, 2024

@P4-630
They say they do, but I’ve yet to see an instance of them actually doing it. Chances are, Win 11 will install just fine on your laptop, will received updates and overall work as expected. Of course, technically, as per TOS that MS pushes, doing so would be an “at your own risk” kinda deal.

lexluthermiester · Jul 23, 2024

P4-630 said:
My i3 7100U laptop isn't eligible to install windows 11....
Question, if I do a clean install anyway, does M$ block my windows 10 OEM key it's running?

In other words would windows 11 get a valid upgrade with the 10 Key it has?

If you use bypasses to install 11 and use your 10 key for the free upgrade, that key will permanently be converted into a Windows 11 license. It will not be black-listed, if that's what you're worried about.

P4-630 said:
Doesn't M$ block these hardware combos keys that don't support 11

No.

And now for something completely different!

Ok, I just spent a few hours trying this out a two different spare machines. Seems to work great! When configured the way I like it, this helps cut my installation pain from massively involved & unpleasant, to minor annoyance.

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

Saw it below earlier today.

If anyone would like me to attach the totally debloated xml file tested, let me know.

Onasi · Jul 23, 2024

Yeah, I am game to try it for tinkering purposes. I have a couple of older PCs at work that I use as ~~victims~~ test subjects.

lexluthermiester · Jul 23, 2024

Onasi said:
Yeah, I am game to try it for tinkering purposes. I have a couple of older PCs at work that I use as ~~victims~~ test subjects.

Ok, here it is. Fair warning, I've disabled a TON of stuff, including Windefend. So either re-enable it, install something else for security or stay off the net.

No password on the zip. It's a standard XML file and is easily inspected. No janky-jank here.

Onasi · Jul 23, 2024

Defender isn’t a problem for these PCs, they aren’t connected to either the internet or our intranet. They are literally just test platforms for me to fuck around with and test things.

P4-630 · Jul 23, 2024

lexluthermiester said:
and use your 10 key for the free upgrade

I have a problem there, I don't know the key from this laptop, sometimes the key is on a sticker at the back but not so on mine unfortunately... :ohwell:

Klemc · Jul 23, 2024

The Key that's used while install Windows setup, it's easy to retrieve, if logged on btw:

CMD=

wmic path softwareLicensingService get OA3xOriginalProductKey

How to Find Your Window 10 or 11 Product Key: 4 Simple Ways

Find your Windows product key using the Command Prompt, PowerShell, or the Windows Registry Do you need to find your Windows product key? The Windows product key is necessary if you want to install Windows on a different computer or...

www.wikihow.com

P4-630 · Jul 23, 2024

Klemc said:
The Key that's used while install Windows setup, it's easy to retrieve, if logged on btw:

CMD=

wmic path softwareLicensingService get OA3xOriginalProductKey

How to Find Your Window 10 or 11 Product Key: 4 Simple Ways

Find your Windows product key using the Command Prompt, PowerShell, or the Windows Registry Do you need to find your Windows product key? The Windows product key is necessary if you want to install Windows on a different computer or...

www.wikihow.com

It is a OEM HP laptop with pre-installed windows 10, does it work for that.

Edit: So it seems I can find the original win10 key with the instructions of that site, I will try that when needed next year.

Klemc · Jul 23, 2024

P4-630 said:
It is a OEM HP laptop with pre-installed windows 10, does it work for that.

At least it's legit, and easy/fast to try, i think yes, OEM will not change base OS known stuff i hope, MS needs access the info tho.

YES

OEM license is listed here (the first), so yes:
Types de licences Windows

Récupérer votre clé de produit (ou licence) Windows

Ce tutoriel vous explique 3 méthodes qui permettent de retrouver sa clé de produit Windows pour par exemple réactiver son système.

www.justgeek.fr

Description says OEM can't be migrated, nothing else

Third party app, but it's Nirsoft's well known trusted :

Nirsoft ProduKey

ProduKey - Recover lost product key (CD-Key) of Windows/MS-Office/SQL Server

Recover lost product key (CD-Key) of Microsoft Office 2003, Office 2007, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003/2008, Windows 7, and more.

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lexluthermiester · Jul 23, 2024

P4-630 said:
I have a problem there, I don't know the key from this laptop, sometimes the key is on a sticker at the back but not so on mine unfortunately...

There are utilities you can use to extract it from the BIOS, however as long as you use the OEM base install, activated with the OEM, and use a properly bypass-patched iso of 11, you can upgrade using the installed key.

Klemc said:
The Key that's used while install Windows setup, it's easy to retrieve, if logged on btw:

CMD=

wmic path softwareLicensingService get OA3xOriginalProductKey

How to Find Your Window 10 or 11 Product Key: 4 Simple Ways

Find your Windows product key using the Command Prompt, PowerShell, or the Windows Registry Do you need to find your Windows product key? The Windows product key is necessary if you want to install Windows on a different computer or...

www.wikihow.com

This!

FoulOnWhite · Monday at 1:31 AM

Win 11 just shat in my face tonight.

Switched out my crucial P5 500gb for the sn850X 1tb, did a clone to new drive which worked fine (it seemed) After a reboot got a 0xc0000000e error, which i could not figure out how to recover from (still got the install on the other partition) So if anyone has any idea, i might be able to repair it. In the meantime i am running off win 10 pro, auto activated too which is nice.

lexluthermiester · Monday at 3:22 AM

FoulOnWhite said:
Win 11 just shat in my face tonight.

Switched out my crucial P5 500gb for the sn850X 1tb, did a clone to new drive which worked fine (it seemed) After a reboot got a 0xc0000000e error, which i could not figure out how to recover from (still got the install on the other partition) So if anyone has any idea, i might be able to repair it. In the meantime i am running off win 10 pro, auto activated too which is nice.

That seems more like a hardware issue than a software issue, given that error code. Could also be an update thing. That error code is the indicator.

Here's what microsoft forums say about it.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...0e-error/eb0d77c5-0455-406a-b9a2-fd97778d4606

EaseUS also has some info which seems similar.
https://www.easeus.com/resource/error-code-0xc00000e.html

mechtech · Monday at 4:32 AM

theFOoL said:
Something Good for you Pro/Home Edition Users

LINK

Your LINK broke

GitHub - builtbybel/xd-AntiSpy: The successor to xp-AntiSpy, designed for the modern Windows experience

The successor to xp-AntiSpy, designed for the modern Windows experience - builtbybel/xd-AntiSpy

github.com

lexluthermiester said:
If you use bypasses to install 11 and use your 10 key for the free upgrade, that key will permanently be converted into a Windows 11 license. It will not be black-listed, if that's what you're worried about.

No.

And now for something completely different!

Ok, I just spent a few hours trying this out a two different spare machines. Seems to work great! When configured the way I like it, this helps cut my installation pain from massively involved & unpleasant, to minor annoyance.

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

Saw it below earlier today.

If anyone would like me to attach the totally debloated xml file tested, let me know.

Is this similar to ntlite?

NTLite

Official NTLite website

www.ntlite.com

FoulOnWhite · Monday at 6:41 AM

lexluthermiester said:
That seems more like a hardware issue than a software issue, given that error code. Could also be an update thing. That error code is the indicator.

Here's what microsoft forums say about it.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us...0e-error/eb0d77c5-0455-406a-b9a2-fd97778d4606

EaseUS also has some info which seems similar.
https://www.easeus.com/resource/error-code-0xc00000e.html

The ssd was still detected in the bios, and win 10 is installed on the second partition on it, with the win 11 partition still being there and accessable, so i don't think the SSD failed or anything.

Also checked with the WD program and the 1tb SSD is on 99% health, my 4tb one is on 100% so cannot see a problem there.

chrcoluk · Monday at 8:05 AM

lexluthermiester said:
If you use bypasses to install 11 and use your 10 key for the free upgrade, that key will permanently be converted into a Windows 11 license. It will not be black-listed, if that's what you're worried about.

No.

And now for something completely different!

Ok, I just spent a few hours trying this out a two different spare machines. Seems to work great! When configured the way I like it, this helps cut my installation pain from massively involved & unpleasant, to minor annoyance.

https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/

Saw it below earlier today.

If anyone would like me to attach the totally debloated xml file tested, let me know.

Welcome to using custom ISO's. So much easier not having to go through all the prompts on installation. Although automating the partitioning needs to be done carefully.

System Name	The Workhorse
Processor	AMD Ryzen R9 5900X
Motherboard	Gigabyte Aorus B550 Pro
Cooling	CPU - Noctua NH-D15S Case - 3 Noctua NF-A14 PWM at the bottom, 2 Fractal Design 180mm at the front
Memory	GSkill Trident Z 3200CL14
Video Card(s)	NVidia GTX 1070 MSI QuickSilver
Storage	Adata SX8200Pro
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Power Supply	Corsair RMx850 (2018)
Mouse	Razer Viper (Original)
Keyboard	Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid TKL keyboard (Cherry MX Black)
Software	Windows 11 Pro (23H2)

System Name	micropage7
Processor	Intel Xeon X3470
Motherboard	Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. P55A-UD3R (Socket 1156)
Cooling	Enermax ETS-T40F
Memory	Samsung 8.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3
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Power Supply	Silverstone 600 Watt
Mouse	Logitech G502
Keyboard	Sades Excalibur + Taihao keycaps
Software	Win 7 64-bit
Benchmark Scores	Classified

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Storage	Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2
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Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard	RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software	Windows 11
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Processor	Intel Core i5-6600 @ 3.9GHz
Motherboard	Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 Rev 1.0
Cooling	Quality case, 2 x Fractal Design 140mm fans, stock CPU HSF
Memory	32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 3000 Corsair Vengeance
Video Card(s)	EVGA GEForce GTX 1050Ti 4Gb GDDR5
Storage	Samsung 850 Pro 256GB SSD, Samsung 860 Evo 500GB SSD
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Case	Fractal Design Define R4
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova 550W G2 Gold
Mouse	Logitech M190
Keyboard	Microsoft Wireless Comfort 5050
Software	W10 Pro 64-bit

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Processor	I3 3.5GHZ (3150) \| Modded Xeon E5450 (OC @3.60)
Motherboard	ASRock B85M-ITX \| ASUS P5Q-EM
Cooling	OEZM HSK \| 92MM Heatsink RGB
Memory	8GB DDR3 \| 8GB DDR2
Video Card(s)	Onboard \| NVIDIA Quadro K2200 4GB
Storage	120GB SSD 1TB WD \| 120GB SSD 1TB Seagate 500GB HDD <<
Display(s)	DELL 17" LCD 1280x1024 \| ASUS 24" LCD IPS
Case	CoolerMaster 110 \| RoseWill ZIRCON
Audio Device(s)	Onboard
Power Supply	Rosewill 610WATT \| Rosewill 550WATT
Mouse	Input-Director\| RoseWill FUSION C40
Keyboard	Input-Director \| RoseWill FUSION
Software	Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit

Windows 11 General Discussion

Onasi

Windows 11 23H2 is now broadly available to all "seekers"

micropage7

P4-630

Bill_Bright

theFOoL

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop

theFOoL

P4-630

MrBanana

P4-630

Onasi

lexluthermiester

Onasi

lexluthermiester

Attachments

Onasi

P4-630

Klemc

How to Find Your Window 10 or 11 Product Key: 4 Simple Ways

P4-630

How to Find Your Window 10 or 11 Product Key: 4 Simple Ways

Klemc

Récupérer votre clé de produit (ou licence) Windows

Nirsoft ProduKey

ProduKey - Recover lost product key (CD-Key) of Windows/MS-Office/SQL Server

lexluthermiester

How to Find Your Window 10 or 11 Product Key: 4 Simple Ways

FoulOnWhite

lexluthermiester

mechtech

GitHub - builtbybel/xd-AntiSpy: The successor to xp-AntiSpy, designed for the modern Windows experience

NTLite

FoulOnWhite

chrcoluk

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Processor	Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard	Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling	Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory	2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s)	XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage	Kingston A400 240GB \| WD Black SN750 2TB \|WD Blue 1TB x 2 \| Toshiba P300 2TB \| Seagate Expansion 8TB
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Power Supply	Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse	Logitech G602
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Benchmark Scores	Rimworld 4K ready!

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Memory	16GB DDR4 3000MHz
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Pulse RX 6700 XT
Storage	Samsung 970 EVO Plus 1TB / Samsung 860 EVO 512GB
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Case	Asus Prime AP201
Audio Device(s)	Sennheiser HD560S / Fiio E10K DAC
Power Supply	Corsair RM 750x
Mouse	Razer Viper Ultimate
Keyboard	Anne Pro 2

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Processor	7800X3D
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Case	4000D Airflow
Audio Device(s)	Edifier 1280Ts
Power Supply	Shift 1000
Mouse	502 Hero
Keyboard	K68
Software	EMDB
Benchmark Scores	0>1000

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Cooling	Noctua D15S chromax black/MX6
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Case	Fractal Define R4
Audio Device(s)	Soundblaster AE-9
Power Supply	Antec HCG 750 Gold
Software	Windows 10 21H2 LTSC

Windows 11 General Discussion

Fishfaced Nincompoop

Attachments

Nirsoft ProduKey​

Nirsoft ProduKey