5800x (and other Zen 3 chips) PBO settings/Temperature fix

mooms · Aug 25, 2024

cyx2111 said:
Right. What's your Temps on stress full load?

2023-11-17 16_04_28-HWiNFO64 v7.66-5270 - Sensors Status.png

And finally my 5900X with PBO 185/130/185 and CO per core (tested with CoreCycler). + 50 MHz boost to achieve 5 GHz on ST.

2024-06-18 21_11_06-CINEBENCH R23.200.png

Diceair · Aug 25, 2024

freeagent said:
Define full load. If you say R23 I will just laugh. That is hardly a load.

For me gaming load is good enough. So as long as it's stable in what you do good enough and I game

freeagent · Aug 25, 2024

Diceair said:
For me gaming load is good enough. So as long as it's stable in what you do good enough and I game

Whatever floats your boat

BlaezaLite · Aug 25, 2024

freeagent said:
Whatever floats your boat

What's a sufficient load Mr Freeagent? Cinebench is what I always use. You on about prime/pi?

freeagent · Aug 25, 2024

Blaeza said:
What's a sufficient load Mr Freeagent? Cinebench is what I always use. You on about prime/pi?

I am a Linpack guy

If you build for that, everything else is a joke

BlaezaLite · Aug 25, 2024

freeagent said:
I am a Linpack guy

If you build for that, everything else is a joke

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If I ran Linpack, instant 89C, guaranteed. 79C with Linpack is silly...

freeagent · Aug 25, 2024

Blaeza said:
If I ran Linpack, instant 89C, guaranteed. 79C with Linpack is silly...

That is why when I see R23 being used, I just think teehee..

BlaezaLite · Aug 25, 2024

freeagent said:
That is why when I see R23 being used, I just think teehee..

View attachment 360603

62C... WTF...

freeagent · Aug 25, 2024

Blaeza said:
62C... WTF...

Hi, I am freeagent, and I use Thermalright in all of my builds

BlaezaLite · Aug 25, 2024

freeagent said:
Hi, I am freeagent, and I use Thermalright in all of my builds

I just ran R23 and hiit 84C. Damn AM5...

Athlonite · Aug 25, 2024

OneMoar · Sep 2, 2024

got bored

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PPT 140W
TDC 85
EDC 95

R0H1T · Sep 2, 2024

What's the Core/SoC voltages like?

OneMoar · Sep 3, 2024

R0H1T said:
What's the Core/SoC voltages like?

No idea this was a hail marry run and is NOT stable first time I have seen a CO offset cause a page fault in non paged

Eskimonster · Sep 3, 2024

Nutt sure if i´m offtopic, but what should i use as
PPT - TDC - EDC on my 5800x3d with a 360 AIO, if i wanted to abUSE it ?

freeagent · Sep 3, 2024

I just leave my power limits alone on my 58X3D. I give it a -28 all core curve and call it a day.

Eskimonster · Sep 3, 2024

freeagent said:
I just leave my power limits alone on my 58X3D. I give it a -28 all core curve and call it a day.

Yea Curve optimizing i got covered, i just wondered what is what.

freeagent · Sep 3, 2024

Eskimonster said:
Yea Curve optimizing i got covered, i just wondered what is what.

That's it pretty much.. set your if/mem speed and enjoy.

If you are into tweaking.. not a good CPU for that..

Zach_01 · Sep 3, 2024

Eskimonster said:
Nutt sure if i´m offtopic, but what should i use as
PPT - TDC - EDC on my 5800x3d with a 360 AIO, if i wanted to abUSE it ?

X3Ds are pretty much "locked" at their advertised speed.
Not much you can do, other than trying to make them run cooler with CO.

NonX3Ds can boost way higher than default specs as long as you keep them cooled

The Dog's Bollocks · Oct 13, 2024

GET SHAT ON @ ThreadShitter 1950X

not to worry gentlemen, I know its not an impressive score at all but this is my first and only ryzen cpu so im still testing the waters as it were, and this felt quite nice smiley face

Athlonite · Oct 14, 2024

The Dog's Bollocks said:
GET SHAT ON @ ThreadShitter 1950X

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not to worry gentlemen, I know its not an impressive score at all but this is my first and only ryzen cpu so im still testing the waters as it were, and this felt quite nice smiley face

That's pretty much what I used to get on mine with 4.75GHz all core OC couldn't do more than that though because it would get oodles whea errors and eventually BSOD but 4.75 all day everyday was sweet as a nut

forkinator · Oct 29, 2024

Hey everyone, been reading into PBOI and Curve offsets for my 5800x. Hoping someone here can check out my current situation. Am I supposed to be getting worse multi and single core scores on CB after enabling CO + PBO vs just PBO? I expected single core to improve, and multi core to stay the same or get worse by a small margin. after finding my offsets which took a while, I tested stability with Corecycler for 7 hours and OCCT for 1hr.
AGESA 1.2.0..ca (Bios date 7/16/24). Also, in bios I have my Vcore offset set at -0.004, and boost override set to +100mhz
My PC is aging and I would like to get the most out of it. I just finished OC'ing my memory which was one hell of a 3 weeklong adventure. Ram is TM5 @ Anta777 Extreme 12hr stable and OCCT stable for 3hrs.

Offsets and PBO limits along with test results in the pictures below. If anything looks off, let me know. I'm still new to this.

For ease, I'll write offsets as well.
-8 -6 -20 -22 -20 -13 -10 -15
160W PPT
100A TDC
85A EDC

Memory+Timings

Showing my PBO Limits + Curve Offsets in ROPbench

HWInfo With PBO + CO after 1HR of OCCT Core Cycling FFT Small CPU Stress Test

CBR23 With PBO + CO results

CBR23 PBO Enabled, No CO

Taraquin · Oct 29, 2024

forkinator said:
Hey everyone, been reading into PBOI and Curve offsets for my 5800x. Hoping someone here can check out my current situation. Am I supposed to be getting worse multi and single core scores on CB after enabling CO + PBO vs just PBO? I expected single core to improve, and multi core to stay the same or get worse by a small margin. after finding my offsets which took a while, I tested stability with Corecycler for 7 hours and OCCT for 1hr.
AGESA 1.2.0..ca (Bios date 7/16/24). Also, in bios I have my Vcore offset set at -0.004, and boost override set to +100mhz
My PC is aging and I would like to get the most out of it. I just finished OC'ing my memory which was one hell of a 3 weeklong adventure. Ram is TM5 @ Anta777 Extreme 12hr stable and OCCT stable for 3hrs.

Results below. If anything looks off, let me know. I'm still new to this.

Memory+Timings
View attachment 369303

PBO Limits + Curve Offsets
View attachment 369304

HWInfo With PBO + CO after 1HR of OCCT Core Cycling FFT Small CPU Stress Test
View attachment 369305

CBR23 With PBO + CO results
View attachment 369306

CBR23 PBO Enabled, No CO
View attachment 369307

What is your CO values? Have you set them to negative?

A free boost you can get easy for gaming is trying 3800/1900 or 3733/1866 on ram. Raise rcd to 21, rc to 60 and rfc to 560. Rest may woek fine as is. Maybe you need a bit more iod voltage.

izy · Oct 29, 2024

forkinator said:
Hey everyone, been reading into PBOI and Curve offsets for my 5800x. Hoping someone here can check out my current situation. Am I supposed to be getting worse multi and single core scores on CB after enabling CO + PBO vs just PBO? I expected single core to improve, and multi core to stay the same or get worse by a small margin. after finding my offsets which took a while, I tested stability with Corecycler for 7 hours and OCCT for 1hr.
AGESA 1.2.0..ca (Bios date 7/16/24). Also, in bios I have my Vcore offset set at -0.004, and boost override set to +100mhz
My PC is aging and I would like to get the most out of it. I just finished OC'ing my memory which was one hell of a 3 weeklong adventure. Ram is TM5 @ Anta777 Extreme 12hr stable and OCCT stable for 3hrs.

Results below. If anything looks off, let me know. I'm still new to this.

Memory+Timings
View attachment 369303

PBO Limits + Curve Offsets
View attachment 369304

HWInfo With PBO + CO after 1HR of OCCT Core Cycling FFT Small CPU Stress Test
View attachment 369305

CBR23 With PBO + CO results
View attachment 369306

CBR23 PBO Enabled, No CO
View attachment 369307

You can use PBO2Tuner to adjust the CO and PBO in windows while u testing (this worked best for me).
You can find it here (i just google it , you can also get it if you download CoreCycler)

PBO2 Tuner – CyberMania

How to "undervolt" AMD RYZEN 5800X3D Guide with PBO2 tuner. Get the Most out of your 5800X3D using PBO curve optimizer! 1) What are we doing? We are using PBO2

www.cybermania.ws

It should look something like this

forkinator · Oct 29, 2024

Taraquin said:
What is your CO values? Have you set them to negative?

A free boost you can get easy for gaming is trying 3800/1900 or 3733/1866 on ram. Raise rcd to 21, rc to 60 and rfc to 560. Rest may woek fine as is. Maybe you need a bit more iod voltage.

my 2nd pic lists my co offsets but I will put them in my initial post and here.

-8 -6 -20 -22 -20 -13 -10 -15

Also, the ram I have took a long time to get to the timings and frequency. its rated for 3200mhz. It was very difficult to get it to the timings and speed it is at now. But if you really think that it will increase my gaming performance noticeably, I will work on it. Aida64 reports my memory latency as 61ns. With XMP, that value was 67ns.

izy said:
You can use PBO2Tuner to adjust the CO and PBO in windows while u testing (this worked best for me).
You can find it here (i just google it , you can also get it if you download CoreCycler)

PBO2 Tuner – CyberMania

How to "undervolt" AMD RYZEN 5800X3D Guide with PBO2 tuner. Get the Most out of your 5800X3D using PBO curve optimizer! 1) What are we doing? We are using PBO2

www.cybermania.ws

It should look something like this
View attachment 369320

Thank you, I should have specified that I already have my CO offsets in the 2nd pic I posted. It shows ROPbench and has my offsets along with my PBO values. ROPbench Imo does the same thing as pbotuner2 plus more.

I would like to know something. I ran OCCT CPU + Ram test. It maxes out my limits further than just a CPU test. I wanted to know the effect of setting PBO limits in real time, so I played with them and watched my clock speed. If I was at 100% Utilization of my PBO limits, my clock speed would drop on TDC and PPT. With EDC even at 100% utilization, the "Sweet spot" seemed to be 85A. Any lower or higher and my effective clock speed would drop. I did the same thing with TDC and PPT. With PPT it was 160W. 10W below max usage during OCCT. Any lower or higher and my effective clock speed would go down. TDC was a little harder to gauge, but I noticed clocks being affected when TDC was below or higher than 100A. Im curious if this test I did is only specific to stress testing with OCCT, or If I set the PBO values I found, will they be correct for gaming as well?

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