Is X570 Chipset overheating a possible cause of NVMe's dropping from the system?

[harm9963]

Dude.. I just put 2 in my case, and a TY-143.. I went from a slumbery consumer system to a psycho box.
I had to put my 5900X back in just to cap it off

Gaming and day to day , normal nosies,GPU fan's are the loundest , very CPU intensive load ADA 64 CPU suite benchmark and Passmark, even then ,fan's never go to max ,Asus fan software see to that, sweet spot 2200rpm ,manual fan is nuts for a few more -c , the only thing to rival these fan's, my 290x CFX blower box fan, and still very at least these fan's will cool at maximum, a few extra C is nice for testing, that's all , Arctic P14 max 2800 , have 7, rpm for rpm , at 1600 rpm for both , are about the same niose level, , Noctua has much more push and pulling power, constant thrust and spread, with filters.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Asus fan software see to that

Dude... why are you using it? Download Fan Control. On Linux I am even black listing ASUS EC as they are known causing stutters and latency, windows included. You are good with the sensors coming from the LPC. Fun fact. When putting water block on my PCH it now acts basically as water temperature sensor, it is an overkill, but hey... now I have better polling of loop water temps.

Does ASUS crap have ability to do mixed profiles? Like PUMP RPM from two temp sources, like CPU and GPU and they both dictate RPM? Same applies to FANs... but I do only PUMP RPM and allow to heat the water to around 35C and then ramp up fans based on the loop temps, it is 30C in the room currently, hot as hell... but my PC is still perfectly silent.

I've attached some screenies from my penguin world. But Fan Control delivers very similar experience.

 

[freeagent]

I use the bios to control my fans, I hate having software do what can be done in the bios.

 

[harm9963]

Dude... why are you using it? Download Fan Control. On Linux I am even black listing ASUS EC as they are known causing stutters and latency, windows included. You are good with the sensors coming from the LPC. Fun fact. When putting water block on my PCH it now acts basically as water temperature sensor, it is an overkill, but hey... now I have better polling of loop water temps.

Does ASUS crap have ability to do mixed profiles? Like PUMP RPM from two temp sources, like CPU and GPU and they both dictate RPM? Same applies to FANs... but I do only PUMP RPM and allow to heat the water to around 35C and then ramp up fans based on the loop temps, it is 30C in the room currently, hot as hell... but my PC is still perfectly silent.

I've attached some screenies from my penguin world. But Fan Control delivers very similar experience.

High Amp, water pump, AIO, VRM ,CPU , Mixed fan curves profile , 4 standard profile silent standard turbo, manual, Or custom which I have too many.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Dude... why are you using it? Download Fan Control. On Linux I am even black listing ASUS EC as they are known causing stutters and latency, windows included. You are good with the sensors coming from the LPC. Fun fact. When putting water block on my PCH it now acts basically as water temperature sensor, it is an overkill, but hey... now I have better polling of loop water temps.

Does ASUS crap have ability to do mixed profiles? Like PUMP RPM from two temp sources, like CPU and GPU and they both dictate RPM? Same applies to FANs... but I do only PUMP RPM and allow to heat the water to around 35C and then ramp up fans based on the loop temps, it is 30C in the room currently, hot as hell... but my PC is still perfectly silent.

I've attached some screenies from my penguin world. But Fan Control delivers very similar experience.

Does fan control work on the old Corsair Commander Pro or Corsair Commander Core XT? I use these to get water temps and fan control currently. One of my obstacles to Linux is to find suitable software replacement for iCue temp and fan functions.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Does fan control work on the old Corsair Commander Pro or Corsair Commander Core XT? I use these to get water temps and fan control currently. One of my obstacles to Linux is to find suitable software replacement for iCue temp and fan functions.

You have to try... there is a corsair plugin at github.

I use the bios to control my fans, I hate having software do what can be done in the bios.

The crap is, not everything is controllable there, like minimum RPM states for all headers. I opened a ticket about that, to fix the BIOS option, ASUS told me to GTFO and told me to use the dreaded windows software, the I told I use Linux, they told me that the board is designed to be used with Windows . If you wish I can find the retarded discussion.

 

[freeagent]

You have to try... there is a corsair plugin at github.



The crap is, not everything is controllable there, like minimum RPM states for all headers. I opened a ticket about that, to fix the BIOS option, ASUS told me to GTFO and told me to use the dreaded windows software, the I told I use Linux, they told me that the board is designed to be used with Windows . If you wish I can find the retarded discussion.

That stuff doesn't bother me. The fans will idle down to a point where I don't hear them anyways. And if I am running my X3D, then the fans barely move. You can set all of that stuff up in the bios you know. Not sure why you hate Asus so much, probably the same reason why I wont willingly buy a Gigabyte.

 

[Ferrum Master]

That stuff doesn't bother me. The fans will idle down to a point where I don't hear them anyways. And if I am running my X3D, then the fans barely move. You can set all of that stuff up in the bios you know. Not sure why you hate Asus so much, probably the same reason why I wont willingly buy a Gigabyte.

I have both currently I have Z590i Vision D also. I hate ASUS professionally... they have lost their marbles... I am not only judging of my personal experience that has been sour, I have to deal with it daily in my RMA job and be in the middle between clients and their broken hardware. There is no tech not wanting to get rid of dealing with ASUS RMA, it is a carefully constructed chaos where everyone is turned into a muppet.

Unlike ASUS, Gigabyte has fixed almost all my BIOS fixing requests, the one fix left out is being Intel being anti consumer again and chanting non disclosure contract(they cover up their arse about another hardware disaster), regarding onboard LAN firmware. I agree that nobody is a saint, but this time around no thank you. Otherwise they are also so overpriced, they wont even surface on anyones radar just because of that alone lately...

I care for silent operation... well they didn't provide my a bios fix, not that I dont know how to hex edit some simple fixes myself, I just bothers that I have to fix a product, still under warranty myself. Like buying a Ford.

 

[kapone32]

After reading through this thread I wonder if people still complain about the chipset fan that you could not even hear on X470 boards.

 

[harm9963]

After reading through this thread I wonder if people still complain about the chipset fan that you could not even hear on X470 boards.

Asus Dark Hero X570 has no fans , but fans are needed one way or an other , good case ventilation with good fans .


This run was for test only, to see and hear what max out fans can do , they do some serious cooling and some serious noise !

Asus Dark Hero X570 has no fans , but fans are needed one way or an other , good case ventilation with good fans .


This run was for test only, to see and hear what max out fans can do , they do some serious cooling and some serious noise !

Who would believe dead silent from 12 Noctua A14 industrial 3000rpm .

 

[Zach_01]

For the past few days I've suddenly starting having my 2nd and 3rd NVMe drives disconnect in Windows 10. The cause was a bit of a mystery. Both drives are 970 Evo Plus 2TB on the 2nd and 3rd NVMe slot of my X570 Taichi. One is fairly used (27TB written) and the other is lightly used (3.5TB written). I'm not RAID-ing them in any way.

Symptoms

• File copy fails, Windows says something to the effect of device disconnected.
• Applications using the disk might stop responding or fail operations. (VMWare, Handbrake)
• Bluetooth (per the system is actually a USB device) periodically disconnects/reconnects. (discovered this via USB device viewer after being bothered by dinging sounds every few minutes)

Errors

• event id 1, WHEA-Logger
  • A fatal hardware error has occurred. A record describing the condition is contained in the data section of this event.
• event id 11, stornvme
  • The driver detected a controller error on \Device\RaidPort3.
  • The driver detected a controller error on \Device\RaidPort4.

Warnings

• event id 50, ntfs (ntfs)
  • {Delayed Write Failed} Windows was unable to save all the data for the file
• event id 51, disk
  • An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk1\DR1 during a paging operation.
  • An error was detected on device \Device\Harddisk0\DR0 during a paging operation.
• event id 129, stornvme
  • Reset to device, \Device\RaidPort3, was issued.
  • Reset to device, \Device\RaidPort4, was issued.
• event id 140, Ntfs (Microsoft-Windows-Ntfs)
  • The system failed to flush data to the transaction log. Corruption may occur in VolumeId: D:, DeviceName: \Device\HarddiskVolume4.

After taking the system apart I noticed the chipset heatsink was loose and tightened the rear screws for the heatsink ensuring good mounting pressure with the thermal pad. I suspect the X570 Chipset might have been overheating although the sensor usually reports the chipset temp is usually between 50c-58c.

How many readings do you have for chipset?
My board has 2 and according to HWiNFO description the highest is from chipset itself and the lower is from vicinity of it.
BTW the in-BIOS temp reading is the lowest one an the one controlling X570 fan

You can see both on second column below.
The highest is a standalone temp and the other is within the board section of sensors.
Air temp around PC was 30C (no A/C running) at the time of screenshot and usage was simple for the last 70-75min



EDIT: typo

 

[A Computer Guy]

How many readings do you have for chipset?
My board has 2 and according to HWiNFO description the highest is from chipset itself and the lower is from vicinity of it.
BTW the in-BIOS temp reading is the lowest one an the one controlling X570 fan

You can see both on second column below.
The highest is a standalone temp and the other is within the board section of sensors.
Air temp around PC was 30C (no A/C running) at the time of screenshot and usage was simple for the last 70-75min

View attachment 357455

EDIT: typo

I have two readings but I think I only have one sensor

I've received my order of copper shims and thermal pads. Hopefully I will have a chance to do the mod this weekend.

 

[Ferrum Master]

There are two sensor sources or even 3 like in my case for the south bridge. Two from LPC controller one from my ASUS EC.

In Linux lm-sensors you can actually pinpoint and see what hardware part does readings, there are multiple controllers doing that in modern PCs.

 

[Zach_01]

I have two readings but I think I only have one sensor

View attachment 357760

I've received my order of copper shims and thermal pads. Hopefully I will have a chance to do the mod this weekend.

Yeah this looks like its the same sensor, probably the one in the vicinity of chipset and not the one on it.

 

[A Computer Guy]

So last night I ended up doing this mod while swapping my new B650 LiveMixer board. Not as easy as it looks preparing the backplate. When I ended up removing the material the prior sticky tape decided to stick to the backplate more than the material I was taking off. Used a flat edge hobby knife to carefully scrape it off clean then some IPA to rub off the remaining residue which took quite a bit of time. At first I used the 0.8mm copper shims as the video instructed but it turns out there was a bit of a gap and the thermal pads weren't really making contact with the motherboard. After carefully prying them off then reusing the flat edge hobby knife to pry off the shims and clean off the surface again I replaced them with 1.0mm thick shims and redid the installation. Checking the contact the 1.0mm shims did a lot better ensuring the thermal pad contact to the backplate. On the front side for the chipset mod I think the size of the top shim should probably have been 0.5mm instead of 0.8mm because there appears to be a slight incline but it otherwise appeared to work as instructed.

Overall the temps look good. The chipset held a steady state under 50c and was defiantly an improvement compared to other screenshots I had at different times. VRM's temps look good. Unfortunately it seems I didn't save comparable VRM measurements before I started but it does seem about 10c better than what I remember.

 

[Venturya]

My X570 Asrock steel legend have a stock fan on the chipset, never have heat problem.

 

[INSTG8R]

My X570 Asrock steel legend have a stock fan on the chipset, never have heat problem.

I had an X570 Auros Elite with a fan. My current MSI X570S runs much cooler with no fan. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯