nvidia gpu market share takes over 90% in Q4 2024 (Get's closer to full monopoly)

[Scattergrunt]

AMD just has to change the divisions name back to ATi for an instant 20fps increase.

But what do I know :|

inb4 stressed out by twenty one pilots plays over a montage of ATi hardware.

 

[eidairaman1]

Don't necessarily understand what you mean by this (I'm a little dense sometimes.)


More accurately, happens pretty often when Nvidia and AMD are mentioned in the same breath in these types of threads. Still though, besides a bit earlier, a modest thread all things considered. I haven't seen the worst of the worst though to be fair since im a newly born on this forum.

Oh did you ever acquire 1 of those mobile gpu dies on a breadboard?

 

[Scattergrunt]

Oh did you ever acquire 1 of those mobile gpu dies on a breadboard?

Nope. No funny awful, terrible, hot dog water, horrendous RTX mobile crapboard cards yet. I still got priorities. Atleast Nvidia's marketshare wouldn't go up if I got one, so look, a actual benefit! Jokes and sticking to topic aside, atleast it'll make a good shelf warmer, if I actually get one, right alongside my GTX 1060 3gb.

Why so many of you guys believe that the survivability and profitability of a company/branch depends on market share is beyond me.

The amount of people who forget what these companies do sometimes is kinda funny. Kinda makes me wonder what a company like that in the dGPU market would look like if that was all their surviability and profits relied on.. Eh, not really, actually.

 

[eidairaman1]

Nope. No funny awful, terrible, hot dog water, horrendous RTX mobile crapboard cards yet. I still got priorities. Atleast Nvidia's marketshare wouldn't go up if I got one, so look, a actual benefit! Jokes and sticking to topic aside, atleast it'll make a good shelf warmer, if I actually get one, right alongside my GTX 1060 3gb.


The amount of people who forget what these companies do sometimes is kinda funny. Kinda makes me wonder what a company like that in the dGPU market would look like if that was all their surviability and profits relied on.. Eh, not really, actually.

Funny Enough there are some very old ATi/AMD Mobility Radeons on a breadboard as well

 

[Dr. Dro]

Don't necessarily understand what you mean by this (I'm a little dense sometimes.)

It means I am in complete agreement

 

[Hecate91]

(and to be honest, I definitely see AMD fans' hooligan-like behavior driving people away)

Its usually quite the opposite on gpu threads, and the hooligan behavior of Nvidia fans is one thing which drove me away, the leather jacket man can do no wrong, you don't need more vram, or the power connector is just fine you're plugging it in wrong type of mentality doesn't instill confidence in wanting to buy another card from team green. Hopefully Intel can get competitive and will stay in the GPU market, I'd gladly buy an Intel GPU if they don't give up on dedicated graphics and it would be interesting if they're the ones getting the competition to bring prices back to reasonable levels.

only Apple has also mastered

Unfortunately they've copied the apple sales tactics in the worst ways, proprietary software lock-in, just enough VRAM unless you spend thousands, and usually some hardware issue that gets downplayed by their very loyal users.

 

[Ruru]

AMD just has to change the divisions name back to ATi for an instant 20fps increase.

But what do I know :|

Man I miss ATI. Wonder why they didn't keep that brand for the graphics division.

 

[wolf]

Its usually quite the opposite on gpu threads

The toxic people absolutely do exist on both sides and drive people away, company/ceo name calling, blind fanboyism and my favourite company can do no wrong are absolutely stupid takes, no matter who is doing it and for what company. There will be a natural variance in everyone's experience of how much they see and to which 'side' its for. People are absolutely free to have preferences and discuss what they like and don't etc rationally, but we've all seen things get heated and devolve.

 

[Ruru]

The toxic people absolutely do exist on both sides and drive people away, company/ceo name calling, blind fanboyism and my favourite company can do no wrong are absolutely stupid takes, no matter who is doing it and for what company. There will be a natural variance in everyone's experience of how much they see and to which 'side' its for. People are absolutely free to have preferences and discuss what they like and don't etc rationally, but we've all seen things get heated and devolve.

I'm hella anti-Nvidia but I bought my 3080 because I got a deal I couldn't refuse.

...I was going to get a 7900 GRE but... well.

 

[Zach_01]

Man I miss ATI. Wonder why they didn't keep that brand for the graphics division.

ATi used to make chipsets too. Radeon was the graphics division.

 

[Ruru]

ATi used to make chipsets too. Radeon was the graphics division.

I remember. Though I liked Nforces more back in the day
NF3 Ultra is still my fav chipset when retro'ing ^_^

 

[A Computer Guy]

AMD just has to change the divisions name back to ATi for an instant 20fps increase.

But what do I know :|

ATI All in Wonder with updated Digital TV tuner and smart TV support. Sounds nice.

I remember. Though I liked Nforces more back in the day
NF3 Ultra is still my fav chipset when retro'ing ^_^

I used to have an nForce2 chipset board GA-7N400_Pro2. I used to run a RAID0 with a pair of WD Caviar 120GB (WD1200) 7200rpm drives and for a time that was pretty fast. I still have the drives today and although in storage I think they still work. During that time I think I was still using some ATI cards for gaming.

 

[Ruru]

I used to have an nForce2 chipset board GA-7N400_Pro2. I used to run a RAID0 with a pair of WD Caviar 120GB (WD1200) 7200rpm drives and for a time that was pretty fast. I still have the drives today and although in storage I think they still work. During that time I think I was still using some ATI cards for gaming.

I have an Asus A7N8X-X in my closet

Yeah, just bare Ultra-less chipset, but I still don't complain. Good board anyway.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

I agree.

Why so many of you guys believe that the survivability and profitability of a company/branch depends on market share is beyond me.

Well....because if you sell a lot of GPUs, which is kinda needed to make profits, you're gonna end up with a larger market share. Even in niche markets, like luxury supercars or designer handbags, there are still manufacturers that have a large marketshare in those specific niches, and those companies make the most profit.

No company ever said "you know what, we want to sell fewer products and make less revenue. That would be awesome".

 

[stahlhart]

AMD just has to change the divisions name back to ATi for an instant 20fps increase.

But what do I know :|

Too late for that now.

 

[inquisitor1]

Congrats. 5950x is a great CPU. I found it pairs well with RX5000, RX5500XT, RX6400, RX6600XT, RX6700XT and 4060/4060Ti.


Most of my driver issues with AMD were around the 5000 series RDNA era when I got back into PC gaming. Once they got some major bugs fixed they've been pretty stable for me entering the 6000 series, the WHQL versions more specifically. When using the non-WHQL versions at one point Windows kept getting wonky and kept replacing drivers breaking AMD's Adrenalin Software Features so I only stick to the WHQL drivers and no longer have issues with that.

it doesnt matter what you went through. its not relevant. also, nvidia drivers are not a hassle. I use w10 build 1709 on 2 pc. I got the last version of nvidia, went smooth. with my pos rx590 I had to download and try 12 different drivers before it installed. it kept saying os not supported. so that in itself says everything. I had crashes with the rx590. posted it here then was blamed for using a cracked game. I have the dvd right here in my drawer. got fed up, bought a 1070 within an hour I was back to playing no issues.

> I found it pairs well with RX5000, RX5500XT, RX6400, RX6600XT, RX6700XT and 4060/4060Ti.

you lost credebility when you recommended these gpu. seriously...the piece of trash 5500xt and 6400? and rx5000...what gpu is that?
I would only pair the 5950x with 2080ti 3080 3080ti or 3090. im not buying 40 cards, and certainly not amd.

not buying amd untill I see they start matching nvidia for productivity. when the old top level 6900xt is just a tab better then a 2080ti 2 gens back then you know you have to redo your cards. and when your flagship card cant even compete with an old 3080TI, you have performance issues. even black magic in a video said "we can only recommend nvidia cards now"

amd needs tough love. maybe they work well when super stressed like going from bulldozer to ryzen. now intel coming up the back will push amd to start delivering.

and if you ask the majority of nvidia users, im certain MANY would buy amd if they got their shet together. there are fanboys. im not. I hate nvidia. but I buy what delivers for the money. if amd delivered good performing cards for the money then people would buy. people buy nvidia because no choice.

the biggest lie is getting more for your money. the 7900xtx costs more then the 4070ti super but delivers less. all a lie. even used amd cards sell for far more then nvidia cards. with the same money I can buy a used 3080 and only a 6700xt

 

[MCJAxolotl7]

Good thing Intel getting into the mix as NVIDIA exits the gaming market in the next few years.

Honestly if NVIDIA dropped off of the (gaming) face of the earth, the market would be better. Intel is awesome in this space, if only for the fact that they are trying to break up the NVopoly.

 

[wolf]

I'm hella anti-Nvidia but I bought my 3080 because I got a deal I couldn't refuse.

...I was going to get a 7900 GRE but... well.

The difference being you're not insufferable about it

 

[MCJAxolotl7]

and Linux, which means Android.

Consumer non-android linux is a small, but not insignificant portion of desktop OSes. I'm writing this message on Linux right now.

 

[kapone32]

it doesnt matter what you went through. its not relevant. also, nvidia drivers are not a hassle. I use w10 build 1709 on 2 pc. I got the last version of nvidia, went smooth. with my pos rx590 I had to download and try 12 different drivers before it installed. it kept saying os not supported. so that in itself says everything. I had crashes with the rx590. posted it here then was blamed for using a cracked game. I have the dvd right here in my drawer. got fed up, bought a 1070 within an hour I was back to playing no issues.

> I found it pairs well with RX5000, RX5500XT, RX6400, RX6600XT, RX6700XT and 4060/4060Ti.

you lost credebility when you recommended these gpu. seriously...the piece of trash 5500xt and 6400? and rx5000...what gpu is that?
I would only pair the 5950x with 2080ti 3080 3080ti or 3090. im not buying 40 cards, and certainly not amd.

not buying amd untill I see they start matching nvidia for productivity. when the old top level 6900xt is just a tab better then a 2080ti 2 gens back then you know you have to redo your cards. and when your flagship card cant even compete with an old 3080TI, you have performance issues. even black magic in a video said "we can only recommend nvidia cards now"

amd needs tough love. maybe they work well when super stressed like going from bulldozer to ryzen. now intel coming up the back will push amd to start delivering.

and if you ask the majority of nvidia users, im certain MANY would buy amd if they got their shet together. there are fanboys. im not. I hate nvidia. but I buy what delivers for the money. if amd delivered good performing cards for the money then people would buy. people buy nvidia because no choice.

the biggest lie is getting more for your money. the 7900xtx costs more then the 4070ti super but delivers less. all a lie. even used amd cards sell for far more then nvidia cards. with the same money I can buy a used 3080 and only a 6700xt

Delivers less in what? Oh you mean a Benchmark. 3080 is a great example of how Nvidia fools people. That was the GPU to get when the 3000 series launched but the 10GB frame buffer means that it absolutely needs to use DLSS when playing most Games at 4K. Used AMD cards sell for more than Nvidia cards? I guess if you use the example of a card that has more VRAM and is farther down the Stack then something must be a influence for what you are saying. You are implying that the AMD narrative is so strong that they are fooling people to get 24GB frame buffer cards vs 12GB because the 4070TI gives better numbers in a benchmark?

 

[inquisitor1]

Delivers less in what? Oh you mean a Benchmark. 3080 is a great example of how Nvidia fools people. That was the GPU to get when the 3000 series launched but the 10GB frame buffer means that it absolutely needs to use DLSS when playing most Games at 4K. Used AMD cards sell for more than Nvidia cards? I guess if you use the example of a card that has more VRAM and is farther down the Stack then something must be a influence for what you are saying. You are implying that the AMD narrative is so strong that they are fooling people to get 24GB frame buffer cards vs 12GB because the 4070TI gives better numbers in a benchmark?

I dont play 4k so not relevant to me. id take the 12gb card if its faster. no question about that. reminds me of old 80s american cards with big v8 motors that put out so little power.

amd needs tough love. intel coming from the rear will hopefully light a fire up their azzes.

btw, in davinci and premiere, everyone uses nvidia cards. even black magic ceo says amd cards "are not there yet"
-price is higher for less performance
-drivers have limited longevity vs nvidia.
-more vram is only part of the solution

reading this

AMD Confirms Retreat from the Enthusiast GPU Segment, to Focus on Gaining Market-Share

AMD in an interview with Tom's Hardware, confirmed that its next generation of gaming GPUs based on the RDNA 4 graphics architecture will not target the enthusiast graphics segment. Speaking with Paul Alcorn, AMD's Computing and Graphics Business Group head Jack Huynh, said that with its next...

www.techpowerup.com

AMD VP Confirms It's Shifting GPU Strategy to 'Scale' at the Expense of High-End GPUs

It will reportedly launch RDNA 4 at CES 2025 with four GPUs.

www.extremetech.com

lets see what happens with amd.

 

[R-T-B]

Why doesn't Sony still use the PowerPC for its recent consoles ?

LOL. More like because PPC TDP these days is for servers, and nothing else.

Dare I say I smell an ARF? He was obsessed with PowerPC and cell way beyond their actual capabilities as well...

AMD needs to quit making these stupid big chiplet dies it probably harms total cost of whole graphics card.

I think AMD went chiplet a lil too early. It was still more expensive than the good wafer space it saved could justify.

 

[AusWolf]

Well....because if you sell a lot of GPUs, which is kinda needed to make profits, you're gonna end up with a larger market share. Even in niche markets, like luxury supercars or designer handbags, there are still manufacturers that have a large marketshare in those specific niches, and those companies make the most profit.

No company ever said "you know what, we want to sell fewer products and make less revenue. That would be awesome".

That's not my point. My point is that you cannot make any assumption on the performance of a company based on market share alone.

It should go without saying that expected marketshare in the GPU and fast food industries are entirely different.

It is expected and normal for fast food chains to have only a fraction of the marketshare. This is because there are many competitors, a broad range of tastes and preferences, the market is easy to enter thus enabling competition, and logistical / staffing / property challenges of the industry, etc. It's extremely hard for any fast food business to capture a significant portion of the market because that means having property in a significant number of locales around the entire world, retaining and training employees, organizing logistics, maintaining consistency, ect.

As a result, in the case of the fast food industry, expectations for marketshare are completely different than the GPU market. Your McDonalds example thus makes little sense because you are trying to treat the fast food industry like the GPU industry when the two could not be more different. It's a heck of a lot easier to ship GPUs around the world than it is to have fast food locations everywhere. Not even remotely comparable on so many fronts.

You just mentioned a million different things that are far more important than a single market share figure.

Easily disproven by Walmart and Amazon's rise to power. Both lost money during the years they were expanding marketshare and didn't start seeing profitability until much later. Despite that, investors didn't seem to have issues throwing money at them.

There are many ways to measure success, profit is one of them and so is marketshare. Some metrics are more important for certain markets than others. You can quibble over the details but you are dead wrong that profit is the only thing that matters. We haven't even thrown gross margin into the mix yet either.

Yes. In their early years. You have to make an investment to return a profit later. Let's not forget that their market share was also zero before they sold their first product, and look where they are now. That's why I don't believe in the mindless "boo, AMD is doomed" idiocy.