AMD Radeon 9070 XT Rumored to Outpace RTX 5070 Ti by Almost 15%

[AusWolf]

The 4080S was last years card though. Sure you can compare it, but you can't call it a gen on gen.

Ada $1,000 vs Blackwell $1,000. That's pretty much what gen on gen is.

 

[Bomby569]

Blackwell sold out everywhere and AMD fanboys are still making excuses.

 

[AusWolf]

Blackwell sold out everywhere and AMD fanboys are still making excuses.

Of course it sold out. Nvidia themselves said there was gonna be a shortage of GPUs. How does acknowledging this fact make anyone an AMD fanboy?

 

[Bomby569]

Of course it sold out. Nvidia themselves said there was gonna be a shortage of GPUs. How does acknowledging this fact make anyone an AMD fanboy?

just for his weird face on the thumbnail i can see he is someone i can trust and want to listen to... /s

 

[AusWolf]

just for his weird face on the thumbnail i can see he is someone i can trust and want to listen to... /s

Yeah, please reply about the guy's face instead of the content. Also ignore what I just said above completely. That will make you look super intelligent.

 

[ThomasK]

just for his weird face on the thumbnail i can see he is someone i can trust and want to listen to... /s

And what credibility do you have then? None.

 

[BlaezaLite]

And still, the Jensen cock throaters cannot see through the myriad of Nvidia's ineptitude. Ban me for a month please before I really lose my shit.

AMD better not fuck this up. I am so sick of Nvidia doing nothing wrong for most of the population but those in the know see clearly that they are scamming assholes.

OPEN YOUR EYES YOU BLIND FUCKWITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JustBenching]

Ada $1,000 vs Blackwell $1,000. That's pretty much what gen on gen is.

No it isn't. Cause if a 5080s comes out you'll still be comparing it to the 4080s. Last gen nobody compared the 4090 to the 3090ti but to the 3090. People just cherry pick the comparisons they want based on the conclusion they want to reach.

 

[TechBuyingHavoc]

Anyone getting hyped up by Moore's Law Is Dead frankly deserves to be dissapointed. how many times has this guy been wrong?

The only good thing about MLID is his interviews with people in the semiconductor industry which can be quite good. His speculation episodes with his brother are pure entertainment and nothing more than that.

 

[evernessince]

Blackwell sold out everywhere and AMD fanboys are still making excuses.

The stock issues were pretty widely reported on (GN, HWUB, ect): https://gizmodo.com/rtx-5080-stock-shortage-2000556319

Your definition of AMD Fanboy seems to to be "anyone with a functioning brain".

All this does is perfectly illustrate why a product being "sold out" means essentially nothing, even in a "normal" launch scenario.

"Sold out" isn't a quantity indicator and gives you 0 information on how many sales there have actually been.

According to stock trackers, most models were never even were in stock to begin with and this demonstrates why using "sold out" in place of actual metrics is misleading. "Sold Out" doesn't even guarantee that a single product of that SKU sold, let alone the monumental success you seem to think those words means.

 

[AusWolf]

No it isn't. Cause if a 5080s comes out you'll still be comparing it to the 4080s. Last gen nobody compared the 4090 to the 3090ti but to the 3090.

I did. Why wouldn't I have?

People just cherry pick the comparisons they want based on the conclusion they want to reach.

I'm not cherry picking. I'm comparing against everything that makes sense. The 4080 was an overpriced piece of trash. The 4080 Super offered pretty much the same for $200 less. I'd be stupid not to compare the 5080 to the better offer. Besides, the 4080 is long gone from store shelves. It's the 4080 Super that's being replaced now, not the 4080, so why would I compare to that?

Don't tell me that you're basing your comparison on model name alone. You're surely more intelligent than that.

 

[Godrilla]

I hope it doesn't outpace it in price too!

At this point both price and stock availability is king.

 

[JustBenching]

I did. Why wouldn't I have?


I'm not cherry picking. I'm comparing against everything that makes sense. The 4080 was an overpriced piece of trash. The 4080 Super offered pretty much the same for $200 less. I'd be stupid not to compare the 5080 to the better offer. Besides, the 4080 is long gone from store shelves. It's the 4080 Super that's being replaced now, not the 4080, so why would I compare to that?

Don't tell me that you're basing your comparison on model name alone. You're surely more intelligent than that.

I can't explain it any simpler. The super came out last year, that's not a generational comparison but a yearly one. Generational means what could I buy last generation (2023) vs what can I buy now (2025).

The only reason people aren't doing it in this case is because they don't want to admit we got a 40% performance / price increase within 1 gen.

 

[AusWolf]

I can't explain it any simpler. The super came out last year, that's not a generational comparison but a yearly one. Generational means what could I buy last generation (2023) vs what can I buy now (2025).

Generation means Ada vs Blackwell. The year is irrelevant.

"Super" is NOT another generation, not even a refresh. It's the same generation with slightly more cores.

 

[Dahita]

Doesn't help AMD anything at all on having 15% more performance here when AMD lacks all of the great features the NVIDIA GPU have. I would gladly have 10-15% lower performance in trade for the awesome features the NVIDIA GPUs comes with.

The awesome feature set is one of the reasons why NVIDIA sells like hot cakes.

Sells like hot cakes? WHERE?! The entire Microcenter chain in the US sold.... somewhere about 500 RTX 5080! Scarcity does not equal hot product.

 

[OneSorcerer]

i will believe it when i see it.

 

[JustBenching]

Sells like hot cakes? WHERE?! The entire Microcenter chain in the US sold.... somewhere about 500 RTX 5080! Scarcity does not equal hot product.

A 40% increase in perf / price is pretty wild though, let's hope amd brings anywhere near that.

 

[Contra]

AMD could have done a few things from a 10,000ft level:
- Beefed up their CUs to have higher IPC. RDNA3's CU's essentially performed exactly like RDNA2 CUs, you only got more performance when you increased the number of CUs.
- Increased the boost clock (one of RDNA3's biggest missteps was missing clock targets)
- Tweaked or rebalanced infinity cache/L2 Cache to make-up for the loss of bandwidth.

You are spreading misinformation. None of your statements are true.
Before posting false information, please read and compare the RDNA2 and RDNA3 specifications and read the architecture comparison. Thank you.

 

[ThomasK]

A 40% increase in perf / price is pretty wild though, let's hope amd brings anywhere near that.

What price?

There's a single model listed for 1k, and it's unavailable.

NVIDIA GeForce Graphics Cards, Gaming Laptops, Desktop and Monitor - United States of America

 

[JustBenching]

What price?

There's a single model listed for 1k, and it's unavailable.

NVIDIA GeForce Graphics Cards, Gaming Laptops, Desktop and Monitor - United States of America

Well with what price are you going to compare the 9070xt? MSRP, right?

 

[Dahita]

A 40% increase in perf / price is pretty wild though, let's hope amd brings anywhere near that.

Let's break the market issue down.

1- Who's trying to buy a new graphic card: mostly gamers who need an upgrade, assuming the vast majority are people with a card from two gen ago (Rtx 30x0 and prior / Radeon 6x00 and prior)
2- What's the landscape for gamers?

- Prior gen didn't go down in price:​

- Nvidia RTX 4070 Super = cheapest is $737 on new egg​

- AMD 7800 XT = $479.99​

- New gen isn't available​

3- People don't like FSR 3.1 because it doesn't look good, especially now compared to the new DLSS 4

So you're left with two options:

1. You accept to feel like a giant green dildo got shoved up your a$$ and pay a minimum of $737 for an outdated, low-to-mid end graphic card from Nvidia
2. You join the rebellion for the sake of dignity and wait March by praying the price will be right AND that FSR 4 will deliver

Personally, I can afford the $1300 for a 5080 if it was, in fact, available. But these games Nvidia is playing are so disrespectful towards its consumers that, as a small business owner who also has customers, I would be too ashamed to condone. It's like they forgot what their mission is; to cater to their customers. The disdain is just too much for me to ignore. If they had three or four competitors, they would never treat us like that, never.

So I will wait for the Radeon, and stick with my 2070 SUPER, which still runs Stalker 2 at about 60/70 FPS minimum with all settings at max in HD.

 

[AusWolf]

A 40% increase in perf / price is pretty wild though, let's hope amd brings anywhere near that.

What 40%? Am I the only one who doesn't see it?

Last gen, AMD did a 50% perf-to-price increase with the 7800 XT and 7900 XTX (compared to the 6700 XT and 6900 XT respectively), but people still call RDNA 3 a dud.

 

[AMD718]

For those who said AMD wasn't competing at the high end because they didn't have the technology to compete at the high end / would need years to match a 4090 and realistically were just incapable of producing anything that could come close to a 5090 (because Nvidia is years ahead of everyone else or something), it should be clear now that AMD could have produced a 5090 competitor *this* generation, but chose not to for pure business reasons. The high-end will be up for grabs with UDNA vs. 60 series. I just hope AMD doesn't scrap high-end with UDNA. That would be a damn shame.

 

[JustBenching]

What 40%? Am I the only one who doesn't see it?

Last gen, AMD did a 50% perf-to-price increase with the 7800 XT and 7900 XTX (compared to the 6700 XT and 6900 XT respectively), but people still call RDNA 3 a dud.

Nobody criticized the 7800xt for it's performance but because it came too late (and lacking RT). Then you get the 7900xt which was 30% faster for 38% more money compared to the 6800xt (TPU numbers, here is the link https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt/32.html).

 

[AusWolf]

Nobody criticized the 7800xt for it's performance but because it came too late (and lacking RT). Then you get the 7900xt which was 30% faster for 38% more money compared to the 6800xt (TPU numbers, here is the link https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-7900-xt/32.html).

There's no need to keep bringing the 7900 XT up. Everybody knows it was a crappy offer, just like the 7700 XT.

Still, where's the 40% you mentioned?