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Genuinely curious, I thought in other threads you were already decided to get the 9070XT anyway?

I'll be upgrading within the next 3 months almost certainly, either 9070XT, 5070Ti or higher 50 series - unless they're all so disappointing and/or priced crazy locally that I decide to wait.


It won't be, that's with Multi FG on 3x mode compared to 4090 FG 1x
Can't you smell the sarcasm ?
 
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Even 4k 32" needs scaling unless you have some superhuman vision or sit too close. At around ~1 meter distance I cannot use it to read text with 100% scaling.
Just looked up the pixel density of 1440p 27" and yeah have to agree, i like the 109 ppi but i would not want it any smaller
 
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Absolutely. But not RTX 50. As no doubt the pricing will be twice the MSRP and will stays for another 6 to 12 months as trend follows here, so not bothering scratching my head over new tech. The luck is, RTX 50 launch would finally drops the prices of RTX 40 series. Hence, a good opportunity window to get a RTX 40 GPU, possibly a 4070 Ti/Super. Finally will let go my RTX 3060Ti for good. For my need, of course and some productivity work, it would serve me for next two years comfortably.
 
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A 5080 if I can get one on release day. My next would be a 5070Ti . I have a new computer built , everything installed up and running with the IGPU. But the card I've been using for the last 10 years is so old its eligible for a old age pension cheque. 4080,s are in short supply here and I may as well buy the latest and so called greatest in a few weeks, In the spring will be a new monitor I'm not sure why but I have never been able to get the brightness contrast and colour right on this wide screen . My old BenQ when it was alive and well was much much better.
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Do you read yourself?

"The products weren't that bad"... But they also weren't great. There's not a single AMD GPU in RDNA3 that offers more over its direct competitor other than VRAM.

"I view the 7800XT not as successor to the 6800XT"... but AMD did, and the 7900XT was indeed placed in the wrong spot, but at the same time, if you look at AMD's entire stack, it is only just below halo card territory. The 4090 rained on that parade and made the 7900XTX look like 'just another high end offering', and the 7900XT joined as the 'below high end offering'. The bottom line here is that AMD tried to upsell RDNA3 and that, after its somewhat below expectation performance and lacking RT performance, killed the entire proposition. Its really not about what you think, but about how the market responds.

You're just making up excuses here, imho, to not have to admit AMD fucked up one thing after another. Now we're hoping RDNA4 will be different... and the first signs... are nothing other than a repeat of what AMD"s always done.

Fingers crossed FSR4 is actually good this time.

Looks good, makes it even more strange why they didn't show it on keynote.
However if they plan to implement it only for RDNA4 then it's the same or worse than what nvidia does. What will my 96 AI Accelerators that are written on the box do? I mean at least RTX20-40 owners get new DLSS image improvements, FSR4 not working on RDNA3 is a shot in the knee.
As for upgrade I might sell my XTX and buy 5080, not expecting huge perf improvements but I like to switch between AMD and nvidia. Had 3080 before 7900XTX, maybe its time to go back to team green.
 
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I'm not shopping for anything, but I'm curious how the 9070XT will pan out. If it ends up being close to the 7900XT in raster with meaningfully faster RT, it could be a great option at $400-450.

And honestly, I've kinda lost interest in upgrading. My main rig is already overpowered for my needs, while I can have just as much fun tinkering with one of my retro systems. I find myself spending far more time on my 13 year old backup PC playing indie games than testing new releases anyway.
 
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. Where the heck are the ATI days huh?
ATI days where not better. The driver support was horrible. 3rd party drivers where about somewhat better (Omega drivers). AMD's drivers today, people could complain about, but way way better in comparison to ATI days. (ImO)
 
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ATI days where not better. The driver support was horrible. 3rd party drivers where about somewhat better (Omega drivers). AMD's drivers today, people could complain about, but way way better in comparison to ATI days. (ImO)
Long time ATI user, never had the issues I keep having the last couple of years with AMD. To the point that, even installing the damn drivers is hard
 
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Long time ATI user, never had the issues I keep having the last couple of years with AMD. To the point that, even installing the damn drivers is hard
I'm not sure I follow this.

Have installed and OCed many AMD cards in the past couple of years. 6400 all the way up to 6800. With overclocking. On W10 and 11. No issues. Smooth installs and really decent benchmark scores.

Last card I benched on modern hardware was ATI 850 XT. It was a pain to install a good working driver on W10. I mean it was worth like 6 submissions DX9 only. 3Dmark99, 2000, 01, 03, 05 and 06 and Aquamark. Thats all those cards are good for. Essentially irrelevant, the drivers from Omega where better than ATIs. Today, we don't have 3rd party driver choices....
 

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Just looked up the pixel density of 1440p 27" and yeah have to agree, i like the 109 ppi but i would not want it any smaller
That's about the same as what my 34 UW is at. And, its perfect for me (but i need glasses since i hit 40 a few years ago).

I'd love 4k for the resolution, but, i'd likely want to wind up around 40 inches to keep similar PPI and not need to scale.
 
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I'm not sure I follow this.

Have installed and OCed many AMD cards in the past couple of years. 6400 all the way up to 6800. With overclocking. On W10 and 11. No issues. Smooth installs and really decent benchmark scores.

Last card I benched on modern hardware was ATI 850 XT. It was a pain to install a good working driver on W10. I mean it was worth like 6 submissions DX9 only. 3Dmark99, 2000, 01, 03, 05 and 06 and Aquamark. Thats all those cards are good for. Essentially irrelevant, the drivers from Omega where better than ATIs. Today, we don't have 3rd party driver choices....
I don't know, but the issues I have aren't really anything rare, just googling about them will get you thousands of results. EG. having to turn off windows updates or disconnect from the internet to install the drivers so they aren't gone at restart.
 

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Even 4k 32" needs scaling unless you have some superhuman vision or sit too close. At around ~1 meter distance I cannot use it to read text with 100% scaling.

You're the first person on this forum, besides me, I have ever seen claiming this. 150% 4 lyfe
 

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I'm not shopping for anything, but I'm curious how the 9070XT will pan out. If it ends up being close to the 7900XT in raster with meaningfully faster RT, it could be a great option at $400-450.

And honestly, I've kinda lost interest in upgrading. My main rig is already overpowered for my needs, while I can have just as much fun tinkering with one of my retro systems. I find myself spending far more time on my 13 year old backup PC playing indie games than testing new releases anyway.
No way it's $450.

$550 min, likely $600.

At least I'd expect that, unless they didn't show and revised prices.
 
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for me personally, I don't see a lot of reason to unless I get a great deal as I don't see any games I currently want to play in 2025 that need demanding hardware

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I have a 7950XTX and a Ryzen 9 9950X. So no.
 
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No way it's $450.

$550 min, likely $600.

At least I'd expect that, unless they didn't show and revised prices.

$400 is not impossible for the 9070 nor is $500 for the xt.
 
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With the impending release of new generation Nvidia, Intel and AMD cards, new AMD and Intel CPUs and APUs, is anyone thinking of upgrading their rigs? Maybe an upgrade to older generation parts which now might come down in price? This is not a question for new builds.
Personally, I'm waiting for the GPU reviews.

My RX 580 is getting a bit long in the tooth, retirement for it sounds good.

Upgraded the rest of my rig just a little under a month ago (Ryzen 3600 to 9700X), so I'm pretty much set aside from the GPU.

$400 is not impossible for the 9070 nor is $500 for the xt.
I feel like 500 for the 9070 XT is entering DOA territory, but I guess we'll see how that goes.
 

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I have a 7950XTX and a Ryzen 9 9950X. So no.

There's always stuff to upgrade man! [looking at your system specs] Ok maybe not. The case is gettin' old, but then you'd loose them sweet ODD bays...
 
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Fresh rumours:

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Which would put it slightly below 7900XTX in raster (in Time Spy) and on the same level as XTX in RT (Speed Way), with a lot less WGP.
There was also video from KitGuru from PowerColor booth at CES that drivers that AIB got for testing only allowed full performance on FurMark (for thermal testing), while 3dmark is reduced by 20%. Question whethere those perf numbers are with those drivers or unlocked ones. Time will tell, supposedly launch will be at 22.01.
 
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There's always stuff to upgrade man! [looking at your system specs] Ok maybe not. The case is gettin' old, but then you'd loose them sweet ODD bays...
The ODD bay is what keeps me attatched to it.
 
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Looks good, makes it even more strange why they didn't show it on keynote.
However if they plan to implement it only for RDNA4 then it's the same or worse than what nvidia does. What will my 96 AI Accelerators that are written on the box do? I mean at least RTX20-40 owners get new DLSS image improvements, FSR4 not working on RDNA3 is a shot in the knee.
As for upgrade I might sell my XTX and buy 5080, not expecting huge perf improvements but I like to switch between AMD and nvidia. Had 3080 before 7900XTX, maybe its time to go back to team green.
Now lets see it run and available everywhere, too, just like FSR in all of its renditions across various games. I think AMD isnt quite there yet. Games often get lower versions.
 
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Sorry to interrupt the GPU debate...
27" and 4K is trash unless you are crazy "retina-fanboy". Scaled you will be ended up with 2K or a lil more, go 32" 4K, don't be stupid like me, I got 4K for "RESOLUTION", then realized at 100% it's eye-destroying or scaling it won't be 4K, then the question is, are you OKAY with $$$ WASTE for marketing SCAM?
Do YOU have to throw that reaction for MY plan/decision to go 27" 4K OLED when I already have a 27" 4K IPS doing okay without scaling / resolution issues for a year? Really? REALLY?
I'm not getting into teams discussion this time and somehow still got these kind of bullets flying into me. What the hell.
You don't have to care that hard about my rational choice. I'm not pairing a 4090 with a Pentium, for example.
Calm down, you calm down. Now I have to calm down.

There's a significant market demand for 27" 4K displays, OLED or not. I have been wanting for a 4K since I moved to my current place 1.5 yrs ago (the older one can only do 24", no height for 27"). And just after I got myself into this clunky setup, get this part of my dream done, and get used to it, gaming on OLED become a thing, I learnt that there will be that kind options in near future, and my dream got bigger.
Yet, even with that kind of demand, somehow almost every time I mentioned (not only in TPU) I want 27" and 4K and OLED together I have to make lots of effort to justify it and cover my back side like in a team red/green/blue debate when I'm already using an 27" 4K IPS. I thought I can get away this time. *sigh*

This wall of text below is only to justify "I'm okay with 27" 4K and I really want it in OLED". You found out that 27" 4K or whatever doesn't match your usage. I'm using one and I'm completely fine with it. You don't need to laugh that hard.


Look, yes, I'm running 150% scaling on my 4K to roughly match the 1080p displays, I expect to run 125% scaling later when I get my hands on whatever new display for a double 4K setup. That's still more than 1440p for that matter. And crisper text for that matter (if I ended up not okay with 125%).
My brother is running a 27" 1440p 360Hz QDOLED for his esports usage, along with a 27" 1440p IPS. I have decided after staring at his setup almost every day and using a 27" 4K IPS for a year, I will not satisfy with a 1440p, I still want a 27" 4K QDOLED really badly.
Not to mention that whatever the scaling in OS, it
will be 4K in game.

I also got physical space considerations (double 32" will be dodgy on my desk, and no, there's no space for a bigger desk). If not, I might have got a 32" last year. But as I have said, now I'm using one 27" 4K already and I don't feel any awkwardness in terms of resolution.
The display itself isn't horrible either, it's just that its black level looks real bad when compared to the AOC 24G2 on its side. And I got a taste of QDOLED already.

Side note just to say that I'm really okay on small text: on my current day job I got ~5yrs ago, whenever I touch an Excel file on default font settings and files got wide, I always set scaling to 70%. I would love to get 55% usable just to stuff more things into my screen (not going to happen in generic office 1080p displays). I would love to get a secondary monitor for my office desk, preferably anything more than 1080p (also not going to happen, because corporate).
I'm a fairly short-sighted person (in many ways), but my eyesight has stayed at the same level for at least 10yrs, after lots of small text reading and gaming that will reasonably got cautioned by my parents.
I use an iPhone 13 mini since its launch day as my daily. That also needed some justification, and that's another can of worm someone opened for me IRL and I don't want to open it here again.
 
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I'm set on the 5090 after skipping 7900XTX. Major dilemma over the motherboard though, I want to get the X870 Apex but my $100 HDV is going rather well and i'm not sure if I want to spend that much more to tweak my memory from 7800 GDM E to 8400 GDM D or something along the lines.

Then there's the 9950X3D which seems enticing but I don't wanna spend almost $4000 for three components. I think i'll just grab the 5090, sell my 3090 and call it a day.

Now if gigabyte releases a Tachyon ice for a reasonable price...
 
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I feel like 500 for the 9070 XT is entering DOA territory, but I guess we'll see how that goes.

From what I've been told, the 9070xt performs as good as the 4080 super in RT and better in raster. As far as I understand it, the 9070 was the card intended to hit the $500-550 mark pre 5070 price confirmation. A 9070xt at $500 should not be DOA by any means except by hopeful green goblins on this forum.
 
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