EK seems to be having major issues

[A Computer Guy]

The company obviously made many mistakes and got in a difficult situation, but Gamers Nexus "reporting" caused such a slump of sales, that it may prevent the company to ever getting out of the mess.


Consumers care about products, their quality and support they are getting from the manufacturer. If they are not happy with it, they will not buy the products.

Employees care about how they enjoy the work they do and how are they compensated for their work, they are not enslaved and if they are unhappy, they can quit the job, at least in Europe eployees enjoy great protection and supports from their states.

The same goes with suppliers, when suppliers are not happy with e.g. late payments, they will not supply their services and materials to the manufacturer.

States have also enough powers to enforce adhering to local legislation.

EVERYTHING IS NATURALLY AND WELL REGULATED AND IF A COMPANY MAKES PROBLEMATIC DECISIONS, ALL THESE NATURAL MECHANISMS CAN STEER THE COMPANY ON A PATH FOR IMPROVEMENT.

If ever the company goes bankrupt, Gamers Nexus attack on the company will be a major contributing factor.

Gamers Nexus majorly overstepped out of his field, which is assessing the quality of products and providing advice to consumers, and launched completely unprofessional intensive attack on the company in order to get views on his Youtube videos.

He severely complicated the situation of the company, to the point that he gave them no chance to improve things.

Steve, your role is not to bankrupt companies and make them make no products, but to improve the products for consumers by objectivelly testing them. You have no place in interfering in law enforcement issues, states have enough of their mechanisms and personnel to do that. You have no place in sticking your nose in supplier and employee relations, because suppliers and employees can decide themselves what is best for them and what to do.

BTW I believe that the mistakes of the company owners and management could have been so severe, that by normal mechanisms I described above the company may go out of business anyway.

I am proud to be impartial and be able to critically and objectivelly assess mistakes of the management and also the quality and impact of Gamers Nexus "reporting", I mean attack. If you think I want to defend any wrong decisions of the company, I do not. I will not comment about my personal opinion about the company owner and whether I think he is a likeable character, because this has NO PLACE HERE, as any personal attacks against me.

EK partakes in epic levels of bad management decisions and behavior and it's GN's fault? (Hold on I spit my coffee out a bit and need to clean up after reading this. Why did you do that to me?)

Even if the owners sold the company and the new owners employed the best managers in the world, the DAMAGE CAUSED by the UNETHICAL TRASH Stephen Burke produced would complicate situation severely.

EK has only EK to blame for destroying their business and brand reputation. They made some critical mistakes and the weight of it will take it's course as it should.
If anything was learned here it's that once your employer starts shenanigan's with your wages it's time to leave as quickly as possible.

 

[Fokker]

The company obviously made many mistakes and got in a difficult situation, but Gamers Nexus "reporting" caused such a slump of sales, that it may prevent the company to ever getting out of the mess.


Consumers care about products, their quality and support they are getting from the manufacturer. If they are not happy with it, they will not buy the products.

Employees care about how they enjoy the work they do and how are they compensated for their work, they are not enslaved and if they are unhappy, they can quit the job, at least in Europe eployees enjoy great protection and supports from their states.

The same goes with suppliers, when suppliers are not happy with e.g. late payments, they will not supply their services and materials to the manufacturer.

States have also enough powers to enforce adhering to local legislation.

EVERYTHING IS NATURALLY AND WELL REGULATED AND IF A COMPANY MAKES PROBLEMATIC DECISIONS, ALL THESE NATURAL MECHANISMS CAN STEER THE COMPANY ON A PATH FOR IMPROVEMENT.

If ever the company goes bankrupt, Gamers Nexus attack on the company will be a major contributing factor.

Gamers Nexus majorly overstepped out of his field, which is assessing the quality of products and providing advice to consumers, and launched completely unprofessional intensive attack on the company in order to get views on his Youtube videos.

He severely complicated the situation of the company, to the point that he gave them no chance to improve things.

Steve, your role is not to bankrupt companies and make them make no products, but to improve the products for consumers by objectivelly testing them. You have no place in interfering in law enforcement issues, states have enough of their mechanisms and personnel to do that. You have no place in sticking your nose in supplier and employee relations, because suppliers and employees can decide themselves what is best for them and what to do.

BTW I believe that the mistakes of the company owners and management could have been so severe, that by normal mechanisms I described above the company may go out of business anyway.

I am proud to be impartial and be able to critically and objectivelly assess mistakes of the management and also the quality and impact of Gamers Nexus "reporting", I mean attack. If you think I want to defend any wrong decisions of the company, I do not. I will not comment about my personal opinion about the company owner and whether I think he is a likeable character, because this has NO PLACE HERE, as any personal attacks against me.

You're high. It's called investigative reporting.

 

[Dr. Dro]

The company obviously made many mistakes and got in a difficult situation, but Gamers Nexus "reporting" caused such a slump of sales, that it may prevent the company to ever getting out of the mess.


Consumers care about products, their quality and support they are getting from the manufacturer. If they are not happy with it, they will not buy the products.

Employees care about how they enjoy the work they do and how are they compensated for their work, they are not enslaved and if they are unhappy, they can quit the job, at least in Europe eployees enjoy great protection and supports from their states.

The same goes with suppliers, when suppliers are not happy with e.g. late payments, they will not supply their services and materials to the manufacturer.

States have also enough powers to enforce adhering to local legislation.

EVERYTHING IS NATURALLY AND WELL REGULATED AND IF A COMPANY MAKES PROBLEMATIC DECISIONS, ALL THESE NATURAL MECHANISMS CAN STEER THE COMPANY ON A PATH FOR IMPROVEMENT.

If ever the company goes bankrupt, Gamers Nexus attack on the company will be a major contributing factor.

Gamers Nexus majorly overstepped out of his field, which is assessing the quality of products and providing advice to consumers, and launched completely unprofessional intensive attack on the company in order to get views on his Youtube videos.

He severely complicated the situation of the company, to the point that he gave them no chance to improve things.

Steve, your role is not to bankrupt companies and make them make no products, but to improve the products for consumers by objectivelly testing them. You have no place in interfering in law enforcement issues, states have enough of their mechanisms and personnel to do that. You have no place in sticking your nose in supplier and employee relations, because suppliers and employees can decide themselves what is best for them and what to do.

BTW I believe that the mistakes of the company owners and management could have been so severe, that by normal mechanisms I described above the company may go out of business anyway.

I am proud to be impartial and be able to critically and objectivelly assess mistakes of the management and also the quality and impact of Gamers Nexus "reporting", I mean attack. If you think I want to defend any wrong decisions of the company, I do not. I will not comment about my personal opinion about the company owner and whether I think he is a likeable character, because this has NO PLACE HERE, as any personal attacks against me.

I'm impartial to this whole mess as well, however, I disagree with your way of looking at things. Industry corruption is a severe problem which erodes trust and affects consumers directly, which means GN is actually providing us an invaluable service by being an outlet for whistleblowers. These employees were not only mistreated - they were threatened; and that's a big no-no.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

I'm impartial to this whole mess as well, however, I disagree with your way of looking at things. Industry corruption is a severe problem which erodes trust and affects consumers directly, which means GN is actually providing us an invaluable service by being an outlet for whistleblowers. These employees were not only mistreated - they were threatened; and that's a big no-no.

Whistleblowers report to state authorities if the law was broken. When they are unhappy in their job for whatever reason, they quit. When a contractor or supplier is unhappy, for whatever reason, he terminates the contract, and if former employee or contractor feels he is owed something, he sues. END OF STORY.

If I remember correctly, this happened: Contractor Henderson had a dispute with EKWB about comission. They solved the dispute in the new contract he signed. EKWB then payed him according to this contract IN ADVANCE, in the sum of originally disputed commision (which was stupid) and joked about it in poor taste, which was even more stupid. Contractor Henderson got an idea, that he got the disputed commision and wanted the money according to the new contract, which EKWB refused, because they already payed him for this contract in advance. Contractor Herderson then felt upset and started the whole GN video circus. It was a nice gesture from EKWB to pay him in advance, even when they did not have to. Unfortunatelly the execution of this gesture was all wrong and caused some improper expectation in mr. Henderson, which were not according to the contract.

IF contractor Henderson broke the contract he signed somehow, EKWB is in the right to demand the compensation, according to the contract or to the law, if it is above the contract. Or do you think that contracts should not be followed???

That a company has temporary problem with cash flow and delayed payments and needs to solve problems caused by owners or managers is really nothing remarkable. IT IS NORMAL.

When that deranged contractor met Mr. Burke thirsty for drama and video views, everything went south and the company got severely and unjustly damaged.

Wrong decisions leading to making useless or low quality products or products with poor after sale support are justly punished by consumers not buying these products.

Breaking laws and rules is justly punished by state organs.

etc.

Mr. Burke has no authority or right to punish and damage the company at all.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Whistleblowers report to state authorities if the law was broken. When they are unhappy in their job for whatever reason, they quit. When a contractor or supplier is unhappy, for whatever reason, he terminates the contract, and if former employee or contractor feels he is owed something, he sues. END OF STORY.

If I remember correctly, this happened: Contractor Henderson had a dispute with EKWB about comission. They solved the dispute in the new contract he signed. EKWB then payed him according to this contract IN ADVANCE, in the sum of originally disputed commision (which was stupid) and joked about it in poor taste, which was even more stupid. Contractor Henderson got an idea, that he got the disputed commision and wanted the money according to the new contract, which EKWB refused, because they already payed him for this contract in advance. Contractor Herderson then felt upset and started the whole GN video circus. It was a nice gesture from EKWB to pay him in advance, even when they did not have to. Unfortunatelly the execution of this gesture was all wrong and caused some improper expectation in mr. Henderson, which were not according to the contract.

IF contractor Henderson broke the contract he signed somehow, EKWB is in the right to demand the compensation, according to the contract or to the law, if it is above the contract. Or do you think that contracts should not be followed???

That a company has temporary problem with cash flow and delayed payments and needs to solve problems caused by owners or managers is really nothing remarkable. IT IS NORMAL.

When a deranged contractor met Mr. Burke thirsty for drama and video views, everything went south and the company got severely and unjustly damaged.

Wrong decisions leading to making useless or low quality products or products with poor after sale support are justly punished by consumers not buying these products.

Breaking laws and rules is justly punished by state organs.

etc.

Mr. Burke has no authority or right to punish and damage the company at all.

What exactly puts EK above criticism and investigation by "aspiring dramatic youtube tech journalists"?

 

[BoggledBeagle]

What exactly puts EK above criticism and investigation by "aspiring dramatic youtube tech journalists"?

It is good that you formulated the question this way, because Steve really acts as an aspiring journalist, but unfortunately does not feel any need to follow crucial basic journalistic rules, as the rule I cited:

Diligently seek subjects of news coverage to allow them to respond to criticism or allegations of wrong doing.

Not only that, he built the whole videos from nothing else than criticisms and allegations of wrongdoings.

BTW he did not even bother to publish or research the whole story of the contractor. The information was revealed in the interview with Leo from Kitguru. Leo is a nice guy.

 

[ty_ger]

I can't speak for BoggledBeagle, but I am fatigued by the mob mentality. Endless discussions and arguing about nothing that affects us and/or nothing we have control over, organised by someone eho has the motive of financial gain.
Who cares?! Not me. There is way more for me to worry about. This is just annoying and petty to me. If I had some skin in the game, I guess I would feel different. Who here has skin in the game? Like real skin in the game? Not some idealistic skin.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

I am fatigued by the mob mentality.... Who here has skin in the game?

For example, I as a consumer like the radiators they make and would be upset if the company collapsed needlessly because one stupid Youtube drama queen. They are/were one of the largest watercooling manufacturers any they surely have a lot of happy customers, who like their products and do not care too much about what less than smart decisions the owners of the company made and how are they going to solve the problems they caused.

The mob mentality and herd thinking is truly disgusting. Can lead to very unfortunate results for everybody.

 

[Fouquin]

For example, I as a consumer like the radiators they make and would be upset if the company collapsed needlessly because one stupid Youtube drama queen. They are/were one of the largest watercooling manufacturers any they surely have a lot of happy customers, who like their products and do not care too much about what less than smart decisions the owners of the company made and how are they going to solve the problems they caused.

The mob mentality and herd thinking is truly disgusting. Can lead to very unfortunate results for everybody.

Good news for you, they weren't making their own radiators so if they fold you can just contact their supplier and buy them direct.

 

[Vya Domus]

Lots of people willing to pay for their overpriced stuff in this niche, they fumbled this one pretty hard.

 

[A Computer Guy]

It is good that you formulated the question this way, because Steve really acts as an aspiring journalist, but unfortunately does not feel any need to follow crucial basic journalistic rules, as the rule I cited:

I feel like you dodged my question. The level of credibility GN has is for the content consumer to decide but is sounds like you want suppression of voices that don't strictly adhere to journalistic practices. If information being disclosed about a companies bad behavior is damaging whose fault is that? The messenger? Shouldn't the management of the company producing the damaging behavior at some point have thought twice about their potential actions being ethical regardless if it became public knowledge or not?

For example, I as a consumer like the radiators they make and would be upset if the company collapsed needlessly because one stupid Youtube drama queen.

They are/were one of the largest watercooling manufacturers

So what, to big to fail? This mentality of propping up companies because they are too big to fail prevents kicking out the losers creating the problems in industry. Should we not criticize Chip makers for failing CPU's and other anticompetitive business practices because they are taking huge amounts of gov't money to strategically build new manufacturing outside Taiwan?

any they surely have a lot of happy customers, who like their products and do not care too much about what less than smart decisions the owners of the company made and how are they going to solve the problems they caused.

I have a lot of EK products myself but I reserve my right to shop elsewhere if that companies behavior is egregious. I'm not so heavily invested in EK that I can't walk away at any time but also that doesn't mean I'm going to just throw away hundreds of dollars of product. I would like to support companies producing good products and running their businesses well.

The mob mentality and herd thinking is truly disgusting.

Describe this is more detail. Who is the mob? What herd thinking?

Can lead to very unfortunate results for everybody.

Unfortunate because EK might fold as a company? Yes in some ways it will be unfortunate but if Atari didn't fail Nintendo wouldn't have helped recover the games industry. There are other players in the water cooling industry that will pickup the slack eventually.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

It is good that you formulated the question this way, because Steve really acts as an aspiring journalist, but unfortunately does not feel any need to follow crucial basic journalistic rules, as the rule I cited:



Not only that, he built the whole videos from nothing else than criticisms and allegations of wrongdoings.

BTW he did not even bother to publish or research the whole story of the contractor. The information was revealed in the interview with Leo from Kitguru. Leo is a nice guy.

I agree that Steve's motivations are questionable as they're generally based on his own code of ethics and he holds other companies to standards he creates without any flexibility or understanding and when he thinks there's an exciting story to drag out, he's all-in. He also has a policy where when he thinks a company is not answering honestly or working with him to his standards, he cuts off communication with them (see-Intel). What he should do is let them respond to him even if it is a fabrication and then expose what was said for what it is. Who does cutting off communication or not letting them comment on his information benefit? You can't beg for transparency then complain that they responded (well, you can complain that the response was garbage lol, but that's more helpful than "we told them what they were doing was unacceptable and we're not willing to talk to them now").

That said, I don't think GN's drama is going to have a massive impact on EKWB. I think their problems were already headed in a bad direction for quite some time before GN did any videos on the company. They got big, did what a lot of big companies do and rested on their laurels and then started some serious misinterpretations of the market. They went all-in on the super expensive niche products (gold plated thisnthat, etc.) and stopped focusing on their mainstream products. Since their initial growth, a lot of other companies caught up to them (or passed them) in performance at lower prices. They didn't innovate on performance or quality, they just tried to come up with shiny gimmicks. From the video, it sounds like they had some horrible managers running the product development. They had big orders during the pandemic surge and just like many PC-market manufacturers thought that would be permanent (which was ridiculous, but many of the big PC companies promised their investors it would be permanent, made decisions on that assumption, and then acted shocked when it didn't happen) and didn't put any of that income into investing in sustainable income for after the wave.

EK lost sight of what made their parts good. They got wrapped up in the glory of their own brand recognition and didn't put people in charge who knew how to actually manage a business successfully. It sounds an awful lot like the executives lined their own pockets instead of focusing on sustainable growth and success. They're certainly not alone there, but exposing what they did isn't going to be the make or break for them. They put themselves into an unsustainable spiral and it would take some serious outside investment (like someone purchasing the company for example) and managerial overhaul to save it.

 

[kapone32]

I agree that Steve's motivations are questionable as they're generally based on his own code of ethics and he holds other companies to standards he creates without any flexibility or understanding and when he thinks there's an exciting story to drag out, he's all-in. He also has a policy where when he thinks a company is not answering honestly or working with him to his standards, he cuts off communication with them (see-Intel). What he should do is let them respond to him even if it is a fabrication and then expose what was said for what it is. Who does cutting off communication or not letting them comment on his information benefit? You can't beg for transparency then complain that they responded (well, you can complain that the response was garbage lol, but that's more helpful than "we told them what they were doing was unacceptable and we're not willing to talk to them now").

That said, I don't think GN's drama is going to have a massive impact on EKWB. I think their problems were already headed in a bad direction for quite some time before GN did any videos on the company. They got big, did what a lot of big companies do and rested on their laurels and then started some serious misinterpretations of the market. They went all-in on the super expensive niche products (gold plated thisnthat, etc.) and stopped focusing on their mainstream products. Since their initial growth, a lot of other companies caught up to them (or passed them) in performance at lower prices. They didn't innovate on performance or quality, they just tried to come up with shiny gimmicks. From the video, it sounds like they had some horrible managers running the product development. They had big orders during the pandemic surge and just like many PC-market manufacturers thought that would be permanent (which was ridiculous, but many of the big PC companies promised their investors it would be permanent, made decisions on that assumption, and then acted shocked when it didn't happen) and didn't put any of that income into investing in sustainable income for after the wave.

EK lost sight of what made their parts good. They got wrapped up in the glory of their own brand recognition and didn't put people in charge who knew how to actually manage a business successfully. It sounds an awful lot like the executives lined their own pockets instead of focusing on sustainable growth and success. They're certainly not alone there, but exposing what they did isn't going to be the make or break for them. They put themselves into an unsustainable spiral and it would take some serious outside investment (like someone purchasing the company for example) and managerial overhaul to save it.

The only thing GN has done is expose the truth of the situation. Without them EK would surprisingly announce Bankruptcy.

 

[Dragokar]

Sorry, but if the company produces products that are useful for consumers, they need to continue to make the products and correct the problems they have.

How I said, I cannot tell if the company had/has enough ability and willingness to correct the problems, and will not comment what do I think about the owners and managers.

Contracts with suppliers, employees and adhering to legislation are not my business, all the parties involved are sane, can decide for themselves and enjoy various kinds of protection.

How I explained above, there are many normal corrective mechanisms available and mr. Burke inserted himself in this just for the views on Youtube. I believe that if the company was from the US, they would sue him out of his every cent. Because the damage he caused is real and BTW does not benefit consumers in any way.

No they need to first fulfill the obligations to the employees, contractors, and the state they are working in. If they fail to do so, they rightfully need to wind down the business. The media is absolutely right to show off such a behavior and after all that they should close down asap.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

The only thing GN has done is expose the truth of the situation. Without them EK would surprisingly announce Bankruptcy.

That's basically the "TLDR" for my post lol

 

[Divide Overflow]

Pay special attention to the "minimise harm" section.

Reporting facts can be highly harmful to shady or downright criminal business operations. Steve is doing an outstanding job "minimizing the harm" to consumers.

 

[BoggledBeagle]

Reporting facts can be highly harmful to shady or downright criminal business operations. Steve is doing an outstanding job "minimizing the harm" to consumers.

Minimising the harm to consumers by liquidating the producer? So that they cannot buy any new products? And have nobody to fix broken products? REALLY?!

I already described what another involved parties can do if they feel harmed by the company, there are standard procedures in place. No other involved party needs any help from GN as they can best help themselves USING THOSE WELL STIPULATED PROCEDURES.

 

[Fokker]

Minimising the harm to consumers by liquidating the producer? So that they cannot buy any new products? And have nobody to fix broken products? REALLY?!

EKWB management "liquidated" the company all on their own. GN didn't cause this and didn't exacerbate this. The company was already on its way down and operating in bad faith. Stop getting it twisted.

 

[lexluthermiester]

The company obviously made many mistakes and got in a difficult situation, but Gamers Nexus "reporting" caused such a slump of sales, that it may prevent the company to ever getting out of the mess.

You can not blame GN for proper and good reporting.

If ever the company goes bankrupt, Gamers Nexus attack on the company will be a major contributing factor.

Are you on drugs?!? Or do you have your head in your...? What GN has been doing is called journalism, proper and correct(oh, and for the record, Steve is holding back!). Showing the public the truth of a thing is NOT an attack. What EK has been doing to it's employees is the attack. What the execs have been doing is absolutely criminal.

Speaking about journalism, here is an SPJ Code of Ethics:

SPJ Code of Ethics - Society of Professional Journalists

Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues.

www.spj.org

Pay special attention to the "minimise harm" section. Do you think that putting together any negative info about one company you can possibly find, not letting the affected company to comment on anything, making and publishing several videos from it with a huge impact on the customer base of the company is "minimising harm"? HE HARMED THE SUBJECT OF REPORTING SEVERELY.

Quote from the Code:



What Stephen Burke produced has nothing to do with journalism, it is TRASH.

Oh good grief! You just gotta shut up! You're embarrassing yourself with that drivel.

Seriously, who do you think you're kidding with that?

 

[N/A]

However, GN is also prone to flooding, so it cannot judge others if they are flooded. Like that priest who has personally experienced the wrath of the gods.

 

[sethmatrix7]

I found the part about a deal with microcenter for lower end water cooling components to be the perfect example of the executives mismanagement.

Paying themselves while failing to pay employees is the crux of their scumminess.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

The company obviously made many mistakes and got in a difficult situation, but Gamers Nexus "reporting" caused such a slump of sales, that it may prevent the company to ever getting out of the mess.


Consumers care about products, their quality and support they are getting from the manufacturer. If they are not happy with it, they will not buy the products.

Employees care about how they enjoy the work they do and how are they compensated for their work, they are not enslaved and if they are unhappy, they can quit the job, at least in Europe eployees enjoy great protection and supports from their states.

The same goes with suppliers, when suppliers are not happy with e.g. late payments, they will not supply their services and materials to the manufacturer.

States have also enough powers to enforce adhering to local legislation.

EVERYTHING IS NATURALLY AND WELL REGULATED AND IF A COMPANY MAKES PROBLEMATIC DECISIONS, ALL THESE NATURAL MECHANISMS CAN STEER THE COMPANY ON A PATH FOR IMPROVEMENT.

If ever the company goes bankrupt, Gamers Nexus attack on the company will be a major contributing factor.

Gamers Nexus majorly overstepped out of his field, which is assessing the quality of products and providing advice to consumers, and launched completely unprofessional intensive attack on the company in order to get views on his Youtube videos.

He severely complicated the situation of the company, to the point that he gave them no chance to improve things.

Steve, your role is not to bankrupt companies and make them make no products, but to improve the products for consumers by objectivelly testing them. You have no place in interfering in law enforcement issues, states have enough of their mechanisms and personnel to do that. You have no place in sticking your nose in supplier and employee relations, because suppliers and employees can decide themselves what is best for them and what to do.

BTW I believe that the mistakes of the company owners and management could have been so severe, that by normal mechanisms I described above the company may go out of business anyway.

I am proud to be impartial and be able to critically and objectivelly assess mistakes of the management and also the quality and impact of Gamers Nexus "reporting", I mean attack. If you think I want to defend any wrong decisions of the company, I do not. I will not comment about my personal opinion about the company owner and whether I think he is a likeable character, because this has NO PLACE HERE, as any personal attacks against me.

You knwo what else is a natural mechanism?

consumers complaining about poor quality service and hardware, and the media doing a report based on what consumers are saying.

Guess what Gamer Nexus is doing? Except he also has dashes of info revealing how garbage the company is behind the scenes, which is beneficial for consumers to know, who wants to buy into a brand that is run poorly and can go bankrupt at a moments notice?

For example, I as a consumer like the radiators they make and would be upset if the company collapsed needlessly because one stupid Youtube drama queen. They are/were one of the largest watercooling manufacturers any they surely have a lot of happy customers, who like their products and do not care too much about what less than smart decisions the owners of the company made and how are they going to solve the problems they caused.

The mob mentality and herd thinking is truly disgusting. Can lead to very unfortunate results for everybody.

If you r company cannot survive accurate reporting by "aspiring dramatic youtube tech journalists", then you deserve to go bankrupt. And the consumer has every right to know how broken EK is and how badly they treat their employees.

What's your position within EK, BTW? Social media manager?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I cannot tell if the company had/has enough ability and willingness to correct the problems, but if somebody launches a massive attack on the company (without even letting the company to comment about what they are reporting !!!) and causes the sales slump fourfold, it is as if a doctor advicing and criticising his patient stepped on his oxygen line and killed him instead of helping him. And made fun of him as he is suffocating.

Shooting the messenger with a nerf gun are we? Ineffectual. Steve would not have spent all that time and effort, had EK been doing the right thing. And he runs everything through legal first, so there is no mistake here.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You can not blame GN for proper and good reporting.

Are you on drugs?!? Or do you have your head in your...? What GN has been doing is called journalism, proper and correct(oh, and for the record, Steve is holding back!). Showing the public the truth of a thing is NOT an attack. What EK has been doing to it's employees is the attack. What the execs have been doing is absolutely criminal.

Oh good grief! You just gotta shut up! You're embarrassing yourself with that drivel.

Seriously, who do you think you're kidding with that?

My man laying down the law!

Minimising the harm to consumers by liquidating the producer? So that they cannot buy any new products? And have nobody to fix broken products? REALLY?!

I already described what another involved parties can do if they feel harmed by the company, there are standard procedures in place. No other involved party needs any help from GN as they can best help themselves USING THOSE WELL STIPULATED PROCEDURES.

I'm quoting just this one even though I have read all of your posts up to here, it all comes down to EK practicing a few things that we as customers should not stand behind. There's evidence of malicious compliance, micromanagement, hostile work environment, dubious sourcing, fiscal and financial irresponsibility, amongst other corporate maladies at play here. Just as an example, you wouldn't purchase ore and rare earths to source materials for your products even if they offered the world's purest and largest diamond up for sale, knowing that you'd be running afoul of several international regulations and to many businesses, the most important of all, U.S. federal law.

EK - and by EK I mean specifically Edvard König - should be held fully accountable for letting his company go under this deeply, I liken EK's troubles to the demise of EVGA - both are/were dearly loved by their customers and have/had very strong, fondly remembered brands, but one of them is already six feet under and the other is heading that way fast.

I hope EK can recover, I sincerely do - and not only recover but also expand to markets where they did not operate before, I would love to have the chance to purchase one of their AIO's for a future build of mine, I think their gear performs well and is reasonably stylish, but in all honesty, what's going on needs to stop, and all of the points brought up by GN reporting should be addressed, liquidated and taken care of, without buts, ifs, or justifications - own up to it all and seek to remedy it, and they'll have earned my respect for keeps.

 

[kapone32]

My man laying down the law!



I'm quoting just this one even though I have read all of your posts up to here, it all comes down to EK practicing a few things that we as customers should not stand behind. There's evidence of malicious compliance, micromanagement, hostile work environment, dubious sourcing, fiscal and financial irresponsibility, amongst other corporate maladies at play here. Just as an example, you wouldn't purchase ore and rare earths to source materials for your products even if they offered the world's purest and largest diamond up for sale, knowing that you'd be running afoul of several international regulations and to many businesses, the most important of all, U.S. federal law.

EK - and by EK I mean specifically Edvard König - should be held fully accountable for letting his company go under this deeply, I liken EK's troubles to the demise of EVGA - both are/were dearly loved by their customers and have/had very strong, fondly remembered brands, but one of them is already six feet under and the other is heading that way fast.

I hope EK can recover, I sincerely do - and not only recover but also expand to markets where they did not operate before, I would love to have the chance to purchase one of their AIO's for a future build of mine, I think their gear performs well and is reasonably stylish, but in all honesty, what's going on needs to stop, and all of the points brought up by GN reporting should be addressed, liquidated and taken care of, without buts, ifs, or justifications - own up to it all and seek to remedy it, and they'll have earned my respect for keeps.

There is no comparison between EK and EVGA.