Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

[the54thvoid]

Let's see how Delta changes that. As of July 4th, we had beaten Covid and people were free. But the war has changed. So that article may not be valid anymore.

I was actually more interested to know that he didn't recommend it for young people.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...r-vaccinations-after-u-s-missed-july-4-target



The thought, at least what I gathered, is that Delta is the result of ADE and is why everyone is going batshit crazy again.

That's not science. That's random speculation. Do your research. If what you're suggesting is true, the UK should be a hotbed of rising infection. Delta originated in India, a mutation from a huge population reservoir.

 

[moproblems99]

That's not science. That's random speculation. Do your research. If what you're suggesting is true, the UK should be a hotbed of rising infection. Delta originated in India, a mutation from a huge population reservoir.

Well, then why is covid receeding (possibly) temporarily in Florida, when there is nothing to stop it? The end of Florida was just predicted.

Besides, the people telling me what I should do are telling me men can have babies. People might be better off reading alternative facts

 

[the54thvoid]

True colours. Coming through.

Florida has nothing to do with this. We're talking about a guy who claims he invented mRNA, who is courting right wing media to spread disinformation.

And I'm sorry, but it is right wing media he's taking to.

 

[Xzibit]

Well, then why is covid receeding (possibly) temporarily in Florida, when there is nothing to stop it? The end of Florida was just predicted.

Early in the week some gave insight to their Covid projection models

Brilliant said his models on the Covid outbreak in San Francisco and New York predict an “inverted V-shape epidemic curve.” That implies that infections increase very quickly, but would also decline rapidly, he explained.

If the prediction turns out be true, it means that the delta variant spreads so quickly that “it basically runs out of candidates” to infect, explained Brilliant.

There appears to be a similar pattern in the U.K. and India, where the spread of the delta variant has receded from recent highs.

 

[moproblems99]

Florida has nothing to do with this. We're talking about a guy who claims he invented mRNA, who is courting right wing media to spread disinformation.

Are saying he didn't actually have papers published that were significant to the development of mRNA? (At least from fact checking In can find)

Here is his paper from 1989 cited in all these papers:

https://www.pnas.org/content/86/16/6077.short

Don't know what my true colors. I said I have no idea how credible they are? Did you skip that part?

The reason I mentioned Florida, is because what is written 2 months ago is proven to be false or inaccurate today.

Therefore, I simply said lets see what happens because what was said in May may not apply in August.

 

[moproblems99]

Early in the week some gave insight to their Covid projection models

Neato! But Florida has a huge population with < than 60% vax rate. We have lots of opportunities. Especially when you read articles the peak to rage on.

 

[the54thvoid]

Basically, it burns itself out. Though I've observed more caution when these variants start to run rampant.

@Xzibit's post makes a promising point. Faster spreading variants without extra lethality might be to our benefit.

 

[moproblems99]

@the54thvoid , I had never heard of him today. So in the fun of looking up his claims, which I also never said I believed, thanks for stuffing your words in my mouth, some of the information isn't completely a lie. I don't know who he is, but it was worth taking a quick peak. I am also not a molecule biologist so I have no idea what the hell any of it means anyway. Which is why I said I have no idea how credible any of it is and the only remotely credible place I could find it was a reprint on msn.

So, I don't get your hostility.

 

[the54thvoid]

It's not hostility. It's refutation of disinformation sourced from outlets known to mock Covid. Let's bury this and allow the thread to get back on track.

 

[HTC]

Basically, it burns itself out. Though I've observed more caution when these variants start to run rampant.

@Xzibit's post makes a promising point. Faster spreading variants without extra lethality might be to our benefit.

It doesn't work that way because, while IT MAY not be more deadly, it STILL sends more people to the hospital, thus aggravating the problem and requiring harder restrictions until numbers subside.

Vaccination helps with that, but only if enough people are vaccinated, which ain't the case in far too many places, unfortunately.

 

[Xzibit]

@the54thvoid , I had never heard of him today. So in the fun of looking up his claims, which I also never said I believed, thanks for stuffing your words in my mouth, some of the information isn't completely a lie. I don't know who he is, but it was worth taking a quick peak. I am also not a molecule biologist so I have no idea what the hell any of it means anyway. Which is why I said I have no idea how credible any of it is and the only remotely credible place I could find it was a reprint on msn.

So, I don't get your hostility.

If you want credibility on a "WTF". I'll help you out

Brilliant said one group of people needs a booster shot “right away” — those who are 65 years and above, and were fully vaccinated more than six months ago but have a weakened immune system.

“It is this category of people that we’ve seen create multiple mutations when the virus goes through their body,” said the epidemiologist.

 

[moproblems99]

It doesn't work that way because, while IT MAY not be more deadly, it STILL sends more people to the hospital, thus aggravating the problem and requiring harder restrictions until numbers subside.

Vaccination helps with that, but only if enough people are vaccinated, which ain't the case in far too many places, unfortunately.

Still better than more transmissible and more deadly.

 

[the54thvoid]

Here's more from Larry Brilliant.

The world is nowhere near the end of the Covid pandemic, says famed epidemiologist Larry Brilliant

The delta variant of Covid-19 is extremely contagious, noted epidemiologist Larry Brilliant. Relatively few worldwide have gotten the coronavirus vaccine.

www.cnbc.com

 

[moproblems99]

It's refutation of disinformation sourced from outlets known to mock Covid.

I'd hate for people to mock science. Pregnant people the world over would be upset.

 

[R-T-B]

Or the fact the head of the CDC said 'pregant people'. If you want to deny the science that says men can't have babies, I don't feel all that comfortable taking any other advice from you.

There are interex individuals that can bear offspring (as in, get pregnant) I believe.
No, not from themselves.

Point being the distinction is not without rationale.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Neato! But Florida has a huge population with < than 60% vax rate. We have lots of opportunities. Especially when you read articles the peak to rage on.

But >40% vax rate, so Florida, for as awful as its doing... is still better than its neighbors.

I'm not exactly surprised that Florida is the first to recover from this summer-surge.

Its not as blue as other areas, but all those vaccinations in Florida are helping them out compared to Georgia or Arkansas.

 

[moproblems99]

My favorite part of that graph is Texas.

 

[R-T-B]

My favorite part of that graph is Texas.

The land of "No Data, please send us a hospital ship though?"

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
In Cali they were saying the sand was evil so stay away from the beach lol

 

[Xzibit]

Hi,
In Cali they were saying the sand was evil so stay away from the beach lol

Your not allow to bring up Californias mass contribution to the "hesitancy" movement pre-Covid unless you leave hollywood and the celebrity crowd out of it. Shhhhh

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yeah very low quality lol

 

[moproblems99]

The land of "No Data, please send us a hospital ship though?"

There is no way to count it. We don't even know how many people are in Texas now.

 

[the54thvoid]

I'll ask that people post what has been asked of, i.e. science and data. Not sniping and opinion. As has been said on many ocassions, that's for the lounge.

If you're too lazy to source your data, check your info, or otherwise make opinionated comments, go to the lounge thread where all but fringe conspiracy theory is welcome. If you can't abide to that directive, you will be reply-banned from the data thread.

Thank you.

 

[Space Lynx]

Canada announces vaccine mandate for air travel | CNN

Canada will require most commercial passengers traveling by air, rail or large ship to be fully vaccinated by fall.

www.cnn.com

The problem with this kind of mandate, is it's just to slow. This should have been a requirement eight months ago for all airlines and all governments. IMA chief and United Nations should have made it happen. If you don't want vaccine fine, but you are not flying hombre.

Case study: United Kingdom and Delta Variant. Quarantine simply doesn't work all the time, Delta got through, India flights should have been shut off way way before the UK actually did shut it off.

I wouldn't be surprised if we get a variant that destroys the vaccine sometime after Fall, governments just moving to slow on all of it. lol I guess governments like going bankrupt, neat.

 

[xkm1948]

A good credible source summerizing currently known information, answering your questions about Delta variant of CoVID-19

Source for the video, notice quite a few are publication pre-prints without peer review, so credibility remains to be checked after peer review process. I mainly took the scientific journals instead of news outlets.

COVID vaccine boosters: the most important questions

Concerns over waning immunity and SARS-CoV-2 variants have convinced some countries to deploy extra vaccine doses — but it’s not clear to scientists whether most people need them.

www.nature.com

WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing on COVID-19 - 4 August 2021

www.who.int

COVID-19 Virtual Press conference transcript - 25 June 2021

TJ Tarik Jasarevic TAG Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus TF Amb Toni Frisch MS Dr Mariângela Simão SS Dr Soumya Swaminathan MR Dr Michael Ryan BA Dr Bruce Aylward MK Dr Maria Van Kerkhove PP Priti Patnaik BG Belisa Godinho WS Will Stone IF Imogen Foulkes DK Dawn Kopecki RM Robin Millard PA Paulina...

www.who.int

https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/373/bmj.n1631.full.pdf

Infectivity and immune escape of the new SARS-CoV-2 variant of interest Lambda

Background The newly described SARS-CoV-2 lineage C.37 was recently classified as a variant of interest by the WHO (Lambda variant) based on its high circulation rates in South American countries and the presence of critical mutations in the spike protein. The impact of such mutations in...

www.medrxiv.org

Shedding of Infectious SARS-CoV-2 Despite Vaccination when the Delta Variant is Prevalent - Wisconsin, July 2021

The SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant and its sublineages (B.1.617.2, AY.1, AY.2, AY.3; [[1][1]]) can cause high viral loads, are highly transmissible, and contain mutations that confer partial immune escape [[2][2],[3][3]]. Using PCR threshold cycle (Ct) data from a single large contract laboratory, we...

www.medrxiv.org

How the Delta variant achieves its ultrafast spread

Viral load is roughly 1,000 times higher in people infected with the Delta variant than those infected with the original coronavirus strain, according to a study in China.

www.nature.com

How Dangerous Is the Delta Variant (B.1.617.2)? | ASM.org

Delta has quickly become the dominant SARS-CoV-2 variant in over a dozen countries around the world. How contagious and deadly is this variant? Will vaccines remain protective against Delta?

asm.org

Viral infection and transmission in a large, well-traced outbreak caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant

We report the first local transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant in mainland China. All 167 infections could be traced back to the first index case. Daily sequential PCR testing of the quarantined subjects indicated that the viral loads of Delta infections, when they first become PCR+...

www.medrxiv.org

Viral infection and transmission in a large, well-traced outbreak caused by the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant

We report the first local transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant in mainland China. All 167 infections could be traced back to the first index case. Daily sequential PCR testing of the quarantined subjects indicated that the viral loads of Delta infections, when they first become PCR+...

www.medrxiv.org

SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617.2 Delta variant emergence and vaccine breakthrough

The SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant was first identified in the state of Maharashtra in late 2020 and has spread throughout India, displacing the B.1.1.7 (Alpha) variant and other pre-existing lineages. Mathematical modelling indicates that the growth advantage is most likely explained by a ...

www.researchsquare.com

For Science related news, I highly recommend you bookmark Nature, American Society for Microbiology and Science Magazine. Their news section have at least the same scientific trained researchers filter out false information.

Nature

Nature

Nature is the foremost international weekly scientific journal in the world and is the flagship journal for Nature Portfolio. It publishes the finest ...

www.nature.com

Science Magazine

Science | AAAS

www.sciencemag.org

American Society of Microbiology

American Society for Microbiology

The American Society for Microbiology (ASM) is the oldest and largest single life science membership organization in the world. Membership has grown from 59 scientists in 1899 to more than 32,000 members today, with more than one third located outside the United States. The members represent 26...

asm.org