RTX 5090 ridiculous price!

[Dragam1337]

The price is absolutely stupid on the rtx 5090... but... in 2nd hand market in denmark the rtx 4090 is selling for 13k dkk (1.8k usd) while the cheapest rtx 5090 is listed for 18300 dkk (2550 usd). So if i were to sell my rtx 4090 for that, the rtx 5090 would only cost me 5-6k dkk, or 800 usd ish.

On the other hand, if i were to skip the 5000 series, my 4090 wouldn't be worth anything in 2-3 years, and 6090 likely won't be any cheaper. So i'd have to pay the full price if i do skip the 5000 series. Alternatively if i didn't skip the 5000 series, i could again sell rtx 5090 for a decent amount 2nd hand when 6090 comes. So looking at it long term, it might actually end up costing me the same, or even less, if i buy the rtx 5090 now vs skipping it, and then buy rtx 6090 in 2-3 years, due to being able to sell rtx 4090 and rtx 5090 for decent amounts 2nd hand.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The price is absolutely stupid on the rtx 5090... but... in 2nd hand market in denmark the rtx 4090 is selling for 13k dkk (1.8k usd) while the cheapest rtx 5090 is listed for 18300 dkk (2550 usd). So if i were to sell my rtx 4090 for that, the rtx 5090 would only cost me 5-6k dkk, or 800 usd ish.

On the other hand, if i were to skip the 5000 series, my 4090 wouldn't be worth anything in 2-3 years, and 6090 likely won't be any cheaper. So i'd have to pay the full price if i do skip the 5000 series. Alternatively if i didn't skip the 5000 series, i could again sell rtx 5090 for a decent amount 2nd hand when 6090 comes. So looking at it long term, it might actually end up costing me the same, or even less, if i buy the rtx 5090 now vs skipping it, and then buy rtx 6090 in 2-3 years, due to being able to sell rtx 4090 and rtx 5090 for decent amounts 2nd hand.

If I was planning on selling my 4090 I would grab a 5090 for sure even if it cost me 1k the gains are ok. The unknown is how much better the 6000 series is if it wipes the floor with the 5000 series price will drop more than what we are seeing with the 40 series.

 

[mechtech]

Who cares if it was $10,000 USD?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Who cares if it was $10,000 USD?

There will be a 10k ish version of it with 64GB of vram most likely though....

 

[Dragam1337]

If I was planning on selling my 4090 I would grab a 5090 for sure even if it cost me 1k the gains are ok. The unknown is how much better the 6000 series is if it wipes the floor with the 5000 series price will drop more than what we are seeing with the 40 series.

I'm not planning on selling my 4090 as such, just publically debating with myself what makes sense to do - and from a business sense, it kinda only makes sense to sell 4090 2nd hand, and buy 5090 (and sell it 2nd hand aswell), provided that one is gonna buy 6090.

But you are right, the meager gains are the reason why the 4090 is still selling for as much as it is. But let's say the 6090 is 70% faster than the 5090 (doubtful, but let's just assume), and the 5090 drops to a 2nd hand price of 10k dkk or 1400 usd, and 6090 costs 3000 usd. Then the whole ordeal would still "only" end up costing 2400 usd, which would be less than just straight up buying the 6090.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I'm not planning on selling my 4090 as such, just publically debating with myself what makes sense to do - and from a business sense, it kinda only makes sense to sell 4090 2nd hand, and buy 5090 (and sell it 2nd hand aswell), provided that one is gonna buy 6090.

But you are right, the meager gains are the reason why the 4090 is still selling for as much as it is. But let's say the 6090 is 70% faster than the 5090 (doubtful, but let's just assume), and the 5090 drops to a 2nd hand price of 10k dkk or 1400 usd, and 6090 costs 3000 usd. Then the whole ordeal would still "only" end up costing 2400 usd, which would be less than just straight up buying the 6090.

I think either scenario is fine I would be trying to get a 5090 if I was ok selling my 4090 but for me It would have to be worth selling a 3080ti to get and the gains in that scenario are no there as I am likely coming out of pocket 18-2200 USD lol.... You like playing at 8k DLSS though last I remember so the gains will likely be larger than what we are seeing in reviews for your use case. I game at 1440p UW making the upgrade very situational and I prefer wide over more Pixels...

 

[Dragam1337]

I think either scenario is fine I would be trying to get a 5090 if I was ok selling my 4090 but for me It would have to be worth selling a 3080ti to get and the gains in that scenario are no there as I am likely coming out of pocket 18-2200 USD lol.... You like playing at 8k DLSS though last I remember so the gains will likely be larger than what we are seeing in reviews for your use case. I game at 1440p UW making the upgrade very situational and I prefer wide over more Pixels...

You are correct - i will likely see a 50ish % uplift in my use case, just as i saw a 80% increase with 4090 vs 3090, rather than the 60% reviewers got.

But yes, reviews shows that it would be an utter waste of money at 1440p truth is though, that im not gaming nearly as much these days, which makes justifying any upgrade more difficult. And i would need to buy a new high quality psu aswell.

 

[Mister300]

1. No surprise here poor yields at small lithography are expensive. Threats of a tariff war also brings uncertainty.
2. AI and ML are wining the war not gamers.
3. My 3080 at 1440p is fine if you want path tracing etc. I use Lossless scaling program on steam for 6.99 USD to get FG on any card.
4. Not sold on benchmarks with DLSS and FG enabled if I spend 2000 on a GPU it better have some serious computational power not some software or AI mojo.

 

[3DVCash]

US prices were leaked by B&H... seems all the AIB cards start around $200 over MSRP.

https://www.tomsguide.com/computing...pu-prices-leak-the-cost-is-what-we-all-feared

Noooo idea what Asus is smoking with those prices. Sheeeesh

 

[Intervention]

If I was planning on selling my 4090 I would grab a 5090 for sure even if it cost me 1k the gains are ok. The unknown is how much better the 6000 series is if it wipes the floor with the 5000 series price will drop more than what we are seeing with the 40 series.

My rule-of-thumb is to skip a generation, if it makes sense price per performance wise, before upgrading. In this case, this falls on the 5000 series by Nvidia. I will wait for the 6000 series.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

My rule-of-thumb is to skip a generation, if it makes sense price per performance wise, before upgrading. In this case, this falls on the 5000 series by Nvidia. I will wait for the 6000 series.

I've upgraded every generation starting with the 500 series so it's going to be weird sitting this one out...

technically I'm upgrading my secondary pc also. Normally my 4090 would slide to that and I would buy whatever is faster for my primary pc.

 

[mechtech]

My rule-of-thumb is to skip a generation, if it makes sense price per performance wise, before upgrading. In this case, this falls on the 5000 series by Nvidia. I will wait for the 6000 series.

Mine is just build a new PC every 5-6 years now with no upgrades..............unless something dies before then, or there is a good sale/deal, ie: like a WD 850x 8TB NVMe for $400

 

[Intervention]

Mine is just build a new PC every 5-6 years now with no upgrades..............unless something dies before then, or there is a good sale/deal, ie: like a WD 850x 8TB NVMe for $400

Based on your current setup (going by your System Specs), you have a nice system with that 5700x and RX 6800. So I can see how this would last you 5-6 years before upgrading.

 

[tugrul_LordOfDrinks]

In Turkey, 5090 is sold for $4000. Straight robbery. But 5080 is good, only $1700-$1900.

Maybe gets 50% more with Trump tariffs later this year.

 

[Intervention]

In Turkey, 5090 is sold for $4000. Straight robbery. But 5080 is good, only $1700-$1900.

Maybe gets 50% more with Trump tariffs later this year.

$1700 is still pretty high. But I do not think tariffs will affect Türkiye. Mainly aimed at Canada, Mexico, and China. But I am not into politics, so what do I know.

 

[Bomby569]

at this point i think people deserve what nvidia (and AMD) is doing with the prices, i can't blame if there are idiots willing to pay the price of a used car for a gpu.
humanity is getting increasingly stupid

 

[mtosev]

ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 32GB GDDR7 OC Edition​

3.409,77 €

Price here in Slovenia.

 

[Shakallia]

ASUS ROG Astral GeForce RTX 5090 32GB GDDR7 OC Edition​

3.409,77 €

Price here in Slovenia.

Same in Belgium, all 5090 has been bought but were all priced around 3.5k euros.

at this point i think people deserve what nvidia (and AMD) is doing with the prices, i can't blame if there are idiots willing to pay the price of a used car for a gpu.
humanity is getting increasingly stupid

I think a lot of buyers aren't regular gamers.

 

[Bomby569]

I think a lot of buyers aren't regular gamers.

so many gaming setups with 4090, i'm sure nothing changed. And non gamers would have a lot less patient to wait in line in the night for a gpu.

 

[Dragam1337]

Same in Belgium, all 5090 has been bought but were all priced around 3.5k euros.


I think a lot of buyers aren't regular gamers.

Indeed, europe got shafted big time with pricing !

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Indeed, europe got shafted big time with pricing !

It's only took 1 generation for Nvidia to get back to Pandemic/shortage pricing... Impressive honestly.

 

[Dragam1337]

It's only took 1 generation for Nvidia to get back to Pandemic/shortage pricing... Impressive honestly.

Well, here in eu the prices are way above what they were during the pandemic. Back then 3090 topped off at 18k dkk (initial launch price was 12k dkk). 5090 is 23k dkk.

But yes, it's utterly insane - and with the incoming trade war, it will likely get way worse.

 

[Frizz]

It's only took 1 generation for Nvidia to get back to Pandemic/shortage pricing... Impressive honestly.

They've had a taste of the forbidden fruit.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

They've had a taste of the forbidden fruit.

Honestly it's mostly distributors, retailers, and AIB and while I don't doubt 2000 is too low for the board makers to make money I doubt the prices we are seeing are what they need to sell them at to make money people are spending 4090+4080S money to get a 5090 lmao when they were in production ofc...

 

[Dragam1337]

Honestly it's mostly distributors, retailers, and AIB and while I don't doubt 2000 is too low for the board makers to make money I doubt the prices we are seeing are what they need to sell them at to make money people are spending 4090+4080S money to get a 5090 lmao when they were in production ofc...

I just read a rumor, that proshop (one of biggest tech shops in eu) sold all 5090 stock to scalpers 30 min prior to the official launch... that would explain all 5090's literally being removed as purchasable after 1 sec...

Bots kaufen Geforce RTX 5090/5080 FE: Proshop sieht Nvidia in der Verantwortung [Update 2]

Die Geforce RTX 5090 FE und die Geforce RTX 5080 FE waren durch Bots bereits vor dem offiziellen Marktstart am 30. Januar um 15 Uhr restlos ausverkauft.

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