Xeon Owners Club

[Samiam66]

How much is that rosewell rise case looks mad never seen one that big before it nearly 2 times taller than my pc case is nzxt phantom 530. Was thinking of changing it some day as had an eye on aerostrike i think not sure if that it is correct name for it as it one of those open air case.

Just found it here https://www.aerocool.us/strikex/strikex_air.html

everywhere i checked it all either sold out or not stocking anymore damn im disappointed

hello all

I bought case a few days after prime day july 17-18 for 79.00
from amazon

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Curious how this comparison would have gone had we not needed all the security patches hurting IPC on the old Xeon. Westmere deserves a place in the CPU hall of fame. You could OC the crap out of it, AND it still holds up well after 10 years. I can't OC in my Mac Pro, but I enjoy the snappiness of the fastest CPU it can take, the W3690/X5690.

 

[Samiam66]

How much is that rosewell rise case looks mad never seen one that big before it nearly 2 times taller than my pc case is nzxt phantom 530. Was thinking of changing it some day as had an eye on aerostrike i think not sure if that it is correct name for it as it one of those open air case.

Just found it here https://www.aerocool.us/strikex/strikex_air.html

everywhere i checked it all either sold out or not stocking anymore damn im disappointed

I currently have the Corsair H100I V2 Aio plate and hoses zip tied to the top of case ..since i havent gotten the cpu & ram yet
To keep it out of the way. and so its not just bouncing around and beating up the motherboard

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Amazon.com: Rosewill ATX Full Tower Gaming PC Computer Case with Blue LED Fans, Supports EATX Motherboards, Supports Dual PSU, Optional 360mm Water Cooling Radiator, Supports up to 7 Fans - Rise Glow: Gateway

Buy Rosewill ATX Full Tower Gaming PC Computer Case with Blue LED Fans, Supports EATX Motherboards, Supports Dual PSU, Optional 360mm Water Cooling Radiator, Supports up to 7 Fans - Rise Glow: Everything Else - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases

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By the way the Rise doesnt have colored fans they offer same model a few different ways
4 normal black fans that all go to a junction on on backside of case 1 x 140mm in back 3 x 120mm in front

 

[Grog6]

Guys, I have a question.

A few years ago, I came across two 3.7GHz dual core Xeons, out of a dead server.

The motherboard I wanted to use one on died by capacitor explosion, so I was looking at my old Pentium D 820 computers' motherboard.


One of the defining things that usually indicate whether a Xeon will work is a similar non-xeon processor that works on that mobo.

But, I've never read of a Xeon working on a X855 chipset.

It's this Mobo:

P5WD2 Premium | Motherboards | ASUS Global

www.asus.com

It lists this processor as compatible:
P4-3.73 GHz Extreme Ed. (1066 FSB, HT, revN0, LGA775)

I have the adapters for socket 775 to 771.

This is the one I want to try.

Xeon 5080

SL968 (C1)

3733 MHz

2 × 2048 KB

1066 MT/s

14x

1.075–1.35 V

130 W

What you y'all think?

Is it worth trying, or can someone point out a post that nixes this?

 

[lexluthermiester]

What you y'all think?

Is it worth trying, or can someone point out a post that nixes this?

The main problem I foresee is the board supporting Xeons at all, let alone that Xeon. Even with the mod, it's iffy that the board will even post.

 

[Edwired]

It worth a try once the microcode is inserted in the bios as it depends on chipset support.
but looking at that specs on this link https://www.anandtech.com/show/1678/2 looks poor for xeon support. if you are looking for a board that support quadcore xeons it asus p5q pro as im currently trying to sell it latety i added a few nice touches for it

 

[Mr.Scott]

Good info and bios's here, as long as you're willing to translate.

https://ideafix.name/?p=1492

 

[Grog6]

Neat forum; I'll get my Polish buddy to translate.

The web translators don't get context very well, I've found in the past.

Thanks!!

From what I can get out of it, it's possible, so that's at least something.

I wish I could get schematics for motherboards; I'd like to fix my P5B deluxe.
I tried replacing the caps, but when the old ones exploded, it took something out in the power section, and I can't find it with a meter or other tools.

 

[Edwired]

I know that feeling if ya had another same board ya always can compare dmm value on the board trouble is sometimes parts cant be found to replace the dead or blown compoments usually end up in the bin if ya want the board im selling send me a private message if ya interested

 

[Grog6]

No, If I'm going to acquire a brand new mobo, I'd buy a current generation.

I just like upgrading my junk as long as possible.

Thanks, tho!

 

[Edwired]

Same here any time

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Ok guys I found some used cheap Ryzen 1700 and I also have a lot of spare time so I decide to do some CPU testing Vs my beloved X58 Xeon

Here bellow are the results:

Xeon @E5645 4200Mhz Vs Ryzen 1700 3650Mhz
P.S. Both CPU are just modest OC on Air

 

[Grog6]

Nice comparison!

That's 10 years difference in processor release dates, give or take.

That's less than the 2x/18 months that Moore's law would point toward; wouldn't you say?

I'm seeing 2x-3x performance difference; that's not what I would expect, unless Moore's law ended about 5 years ago, lol.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Nice comparison!

That's 10 years difference in processor release dates, give or take.

That's less than the 2x/18 months that Moore's law would point toward; wouldn't you say?

I'm seeing 2x-3x performance difference; that's not what I would expect, unless Moore's law ended about 5 years ago, lol.

Well....yeah in some synthetic benchmarks difference could go more then double in Ryzen favours but in general I would say that overall(raw-power) difference is more likely to be somewhere around 50%-70% as it best...also when it comes to the gaming I must said that old X58 ain't dead yet and I could not notice any difference between this two CPU's with my mid-range(RX 480) GPU on 1080p....

 

[Grog6]

I see a roughly 10-15% difference in throughput between my x58 x5670 system to my socket 2011 system 3930k A4.4GHz.

That's doing synthetic benchmarks, as well as Handbrake, which really loads up a system.

That tells me I'm holding out for a Threadripper for my next upgrade.

That should be good for another 10 years.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I see a roughly 10-15% difference in throughput between my x58 x5670 system to my socket 2011 system 3930k A4.4GHz.

That's doing synthetic benchmarks, as well as Handbrake, which really loads up a system.

That tells me I'm holding out for a Threadripper for my next upgrade.

That should be good for another 10 years.

No need to rush my friend It's ok if you can and try for "fun" some of these new platforms but in general If you don't doing some heavy&intensive workload with your PC there is no need for them yet...I believe that X79 or X58 6 core's CPU's are still more then capable...
Ohh...yeah one more thing not sure if thats important for most of the people but All this "cheaper" mobo's for AM4(B350,B450,X370...etc)just feel like plastic toys compared with the good quality X58 or X79 motherboards,most of them lacks Japs capacitors and instead have cheap Chinese one also VRM solutions in general looks funny compared to the old&quality X58 or X79....Yeah I know maybe some of you guys will said there is no need for beasty VRM on chips that use less then 120W(MAX)....and yeah sure I agree....meanwhile my old Asus P6X58D Premium(16+2 phases)still going strong after almost a decade and I really doubt that majority of those cheaper AM4 boards going to live half that long ........

 

[Grog6]

Quality motherboards are rare; most of the ASUS boards I have are 6 to 8 layers, and feel great.

The P6TD Deluxe X58 mobo I have is supposed to have "Mil spec" capacitors, but I'm sure I'll have to replace them sooner or later.

This X79 Sabertooth is supposed to be a "Solid Dielectric" design, but I am over 70k hours on it, lol. (8years, 24hours, 365 days)

The x58 is past that; it doesn't run 24/7 anymore, but it's close.



I've tried to go ASUS ever since the KT7A RAID mobo.
That was an exercise in frustration, lol.

It took me days to get it to boot; the bios wanted to see the fan moving, but the mobo didn't turn the fan on until the processor warmed up.
I finally used a heat gun to warm the processor, and it booted.
A bios upgrade a week later cured the issue, but damn! Lol.

 

[Susquehannock]

X58 system is still quite relevant. For me anyway. Hex core W3680 running at 4.0ghz is just fine. My RX 480 plays my favorite titles in 1080 at max settings at very respectable frame rates. So why change? Decided years ago the numbers game is not for me. No way I am going to completely change platforms for a relatively small performance increase. Plan is to skip DDR4 all together and run these DDR3 rigs until DDR5 becomes mainstream in 2022 (hopefully). Will upgrade GPU before then. Seems RTX 2070 and 2080 are compatible with these Dells. Not sure about 5700 XT yet. May be too early.

 

[Samiam66]

Guess I'll be a member of this club in a week...

Had a $5 coupon. A 4 core 8 thread CPU for $11.80 is pretty good. It'll replace the aging Core i5-650 in my old Optiplex 980. I want to turn that system into a small form factor console killer, just need half height video cards to come down in price.

I have a ton of small form factor video cards most are 512 to 1gig .... you could run a pair of them .....free

 

[Edwired]

Anyone know if asus p6t ws pro any good as seen one for sale with xeon x5550 i think and 6gb ddr3 ram not sure what brand or speed it is

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Anyone know if asus p6t ws pro any good as seen one for sale with xeon x5550 i think and 6gb ddr3 ram not sure what brand or speed it is

Great board more or less same as my P6X58D Premium...Excellent for OC not sure only if that mobo have usb 3 but I am sure that have great VRM(16 +2 Phase Power Design)

 

[Edwired]

I did check it 2.0 usb if i had the money i buy it and get the pcie board with usb 3.0 port on it as my case has the cable for it and sata 6gbps pcie board as well it would compete the set up for my need

 

[Samiam66]

hello all

I bought case a few days after prime day july 17-18 for 79.00
from amazon

Amazon now has the rise case in stock for 99.00

 

[Zyll Goliat]

I don't know....call me crazy but after a week of parallel using both machine(Ryzen 1700&Xeon X58)I am still tend to stay with my old Xeon.....It's just that feel of immediate responsiveness that is somehow much better on X58 I guess maybe is that fast memory latency that is crucial not sure but I can definitely feel it........Also gaming is more or less the same I tested all over and with the mid range GPU there is 0 difference.....now I am more prone to find some quality X79 mobo and test it with some 8 core Xeon if I can....

 

[Mr.Scott]

I don't know....call me crazy but after a week of parallel using both machine(Ryzen 1700&Xeon X58)I am still tend to stand on my old Xeon.....It's just that feel of immediate responsiveness that is somehow much better on X58 I guess maybe is that fast memory latency that is crucial not sure but I can definitely feel it........Also gaming is more or less the same I tested all over and with the mid range GPU there is 0 difference.....now I am more prone to find some quality X79 mobo and test it with some 8 core Xeon if I can....

You are not alone.
I use my X58 system much more than I use my Z170/6700K.