Tuesday, August 11th 2009

MSI ''Big Bang'' P55 Motherboard Implements Lucid Hydra

MSI already has its task cut out when Intel's first socket LGA-1156 processors hit stores. With entry-level P55-CD53, mid-range P55-GD65, enthusiast-range P55-GD80, and a micro-ATX P55M-GD45 motherboard offering in place, the lineup seems just about complete, except for two mysterious motherboards that aren't part of the list. First being the G9P55-DC that packs an NVIDIA BR-03 bridge chip that enables 3-way SLI with better interface bandwidth to the three graphics cards, and second is under the looking-glass today. Codenamed "Big Bang", this prototype motherboard by MSI packs a LucidLogix Hydra technology, which clearly on paper, is the next big thing as far as multi-GPU systems go.

MSI P55 "Big Bang" looks similar to the P55-GD80, except for that under the top chipset heatsink (which, by the way, is purely cosmetic on the GD80), is a Lucid Hydra chip. The chip connects to all three (or four) PCI-Express x16 slots (lane configuration not known), and allows Lucid's multi-GPU technology that lets you make practically any combination of graphics cards, for performance scaling. The member cards needn't have parity on their performance, as the Hydra chip does all the load-balancing by itself. Products based on Hydra are slowly, but surely showing up in small numbers for now, including enterprise-grade rack-mount graphics rendering boxes like this one, conceived a long time ago. A lot of details are yet to emerge, especially around if there are more motherboard manufacturers eying Hydra, about when a Hydra-based product actually makes it to shelves, and more importantly, when does MSI plan to sell this and G9P55-DC.
Source: IOPanel
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87 Comments on MSI ''Big Bang'' P55 Motherboard Implements Lucid Hydra

#26
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
never heard of this before, but i liiiiike it
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#27
AsRock
TPU addict
mtosevdoes it blow up to have the name > Big bang?
Think they mean BIG Bang as a new beginning.


Sounds cool hopefully it will work out for the better. Shame there is no numbers.
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#28
qwerty_lesh
if the chips soo sh(crash)it hot then why not have it on an X58 platform instead of this midrange garbage?

im gonna get sooo flamed for sayin that :D :P
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#29
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
qwerty_leshif the chips soo sh(crash)it hot then why not have it on an X58 platform instead of this midrange garbage?

im gonna get sooo flamed for sayin that :D :P
1336 = old busted
1156 = new hotness



You dont get all the cool accesories on the old 'n busted.

Thats what you get for being an early adopter.
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#30
qwerty_lesh
Mussels1336 = old busted
1156 = new hotness



You dont get all the cool accesories on the old 'n busted.

Thats what you get for being an early adopter.
rofl, mate.. its still a better platform :P
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#31
buggalugs
OH wow. Anandtech had a story about this a while ago. If this thing actually works its gonna be kickass and will eliminate all the usual multi GPU problems and increase performance over standard SLI or crossfire.

Its strange though because Nvidia were talking about their "the big bang" coming soon but maybe its different from this "big bang".

I hope its as good as they say.
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#32
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
better or not, its the older one. old 'n busted.

1156 is will smith, and therefore gets the new stuff :P



nvidias big bang and big bang II were different things
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#33
Error 404
Not sure if anyone has asked previously, but where is the NB? The Lucid chip is right where the NB is, so unless they're integrated together then this mobo is missing a NB... :\
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#34
Kantastic
I really wonder how this is going to work... it seems possible since they have their own exclusive drivers.
Anybody want to guess how Nvidia/ATi are taking it? :nutkick:
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#35
phanbuey
Error 404Not sure if anyone has asked previously, but where is the NB? The Lucid chip is right where the NB is, so unless they're integrated together then this mobo is missing a NB... :\
NB is on teh chip... 1156 has NB on die. also the Lucid is behind the first PCI-e slot... the NB is like glorified SB in the same place as NB has always been.
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#36
buggalugs
Im sticking with 1366, you would have to be nuts to downgrade to 1156.(unless this lucid thing works out) I usually upgrade everytime something new comes out but in this case it would be a slight downgrade so this 1366 system has held its value and worth every cent.

Plus i have already had a years worth of kickass performance while peasants have still got socket 775 boards. (lol im joking im a peasant too but i spend all my money on computers)
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#37
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
Error 404Not sure if anyone has asked previously, but where is the NB? The Lucid chip is right where the NB is, so unless they're integrated together then this mobo is missing a NB... :\
1156 has no NB :)
its part of the 'new hotness'
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#38
phanbuey
Mussels1156 has no NB :)
its part of the 'new hotness'
:roll::roll::roll:
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#39
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Ah, so the chip is completed then? I remember reading about this hydra thing some time ago here on TPU.. Should be interesting to see how well it does. :)
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#41
tastegw
i really dont know what to think of this news.....so many unanswered questions.

but i would LOVE to see this work in real life.

285+4770+voodoo3? lol

no bridges? the drivers seem like alot of work, and overclocking them? lots of questions here.

but if they get this to plug and play and only one driver with no bridge(s)....amazing.
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#42
parelem
the gpu industry will really be interesting to watch if hydra works as they claim, eliminates quite a bit of competition.
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#43
Sihastru
During the Lucid Demo presentation it was stated that ATI + nVidia configurations will NOT work. What Lucid promised is close to 100% scaling for SLI or CF. They specifically mentioned that you won't be able to run different drivers at the same time. All they said was that you can use ANY two or more nVidia OR ANY two or more ATI cards and the end result will be that the system performance numbers will be the SUMS of the performance numbers of the individual cards.

Don't go dreaming about ATI+nVidia LOVE, it won't happen.

Also there is no point in a lawsuit from ATI or nVidia since both CF and SLI are already licensed all for LGA1366 and LGA1156 platforms. I believe it was announced yesterday. It is the reason why you won't see Lucid chips on AMD motherboards too soon. Another reason will be that Intel Capital is one of key investors in Lucid Tech along side Giza Venture Capital and Genesis Partners. Until you see AMD/ATI on that list, you're out of luck.
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#44
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
thanks, good info.
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#45
AltecV1
SihastruDuring the Lucid Demo presentation it was stated that ATI + nVidia configurations will NOT work. What Lucid promised is close to 100% scaling for SLI or CF. They specifically mentioned that you won't be able to run different drivers at the same time. All they said was that you can use ANY two or more nVidia OR ANY two or more ATI cards and the end result will be that the system performance numbers will be the SUMS of the performance numbers of the individual cards.

Don't go dreaming about ATI+nVidia LOVE, it won't happen.
i just like to add that it is not theyer fault it is windows fault:ohwell:(cant run different video drivers at the same time)
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#46
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
AltecV1i just like to add that it is not theyer fault it is windows fault:ohwell:(cant run different video drivers at the same time)
its not windows 'fault' - its microsofts GREAT CHOICE.


Half the reason for windows XP installs corrupting, was two video drivers loading at once - and i dont mean ATI + nvidia, i mean half of one nvidia driver and half of another.

why do you think so many drivercleanup tools were created? to wipe them all out and solve the problem. MS *fixed* this problem, by only allowing one to load at a time.
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#47
KH0UJ
I just hope this will not create a bridge to both camps to unite (Nvidia+ATI):eek:, if that time happens I think no more price competitions:( price monopoly:shadedshu
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#48
AltecV1
Musselsits not windows 'fault' - its microsofts GREAT CHOICE.


Half the reason for windows XP installs corrupting, was two video drivers loading at once - and i dont mean ATI + nvidia, i mean half of one nvidia driver and half of another.

why do you think so many drivercleanup tools were created? to wipe them all out and solve the problem. MS *fixed* this problem, by only allowing one to load at a time.
you say great choice, i say fault:rolleyes: anyway lets stick with the thread;)
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#49
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
AltecV1you say great choice, i say fault:rolleyes:
i'd say enjoy your BSOD's, but as you use vista you're safe :D
anything that makes my OS more stable, is a win IMO.


agreed: anyone else got info on this? Sihastru has some interesting info a few posts up
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#50
Unregistered
qwerty_leshif the chips soo sh(crash)it hot then why not have it on an X58 platform instead of this midrange garbage?

im gonna get sooo flamed for sayin that :D :P
There will be a 2nd gen of X58 boards you know ;)

But this is shit hot if it works man and scales :rockout:
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