Most dumbest thing i heard on the news, a intel and amd War LMFAO, these are suppose to be professional business people hahahah

btarunrIntel will pay AMD $1.25 billion. Intel has also agreed to abide by a set of business practice provisions. As a result, AMD will drop all pending litigation including the case in U.S. District Court in Delaware and two cases pending in Japan.

LOL Intel gives away crumbs from it's desk in favor of AMDs winning antitrust suits. I dont see why AMD settled for that kind of money cause it's merely enough to pay out all legal fees and nowhere near they claim they loose caused by Intel's past unfair business. I guess some of corrupted AMD CEOs and board members need to sign bonuses for itself. After all that quick shack business on Dubai's Palm Island that they buy for retirement certainly isn't some cheap stuff :pimp:

SteevoI have a feeling that AMD is giving up more than just a bit of CPU IP for this to come about, and Intel is likely going to pay more out in IP rights.

I keep my fingers crossed about that. But somehow i hope that AMd-ATi wont make third businese mistake.

1. x86 crosslicence agreement after they developed new Hypertransport capable, x86-64 and MCH-on-die CPU!

2. ATi sold crossfire rights to quickly fill managers pocket before they sold business to AMD ... Well they cross AMD if they didnt just suck up Intel to buy them instead developing their own inbred x86-GPU. We all se how much of money nVidia could make on selling patent to Intel and ATi give away for free just to have quick insight of how old Netburst/Core2 bus works And they dont even produce enough chipsets for AMD since takeover and have unsigned agreement not to produce Intels chipsets (not that anyone would buy them now when CF is part of al Intel chipsets since P965). So hail nVidia for that's the way of making business, this AMD-Intels stuff is just a fog of false war. And thank god they trying to revive that great Transmeta Crusoe architecture. Just hpe they won make moves like with Ion LE and fuse functionality of their CPUs when they came out to the market. Yep wishfull thinking

3. And now sell away SSE5 research Ip for few dimes to Intel. After all Intel implemented most of that stuff thru all that SSE4.2 and upcoming all thru AES-NI (in Westmere) and 256bit AVX that will in fact be nothing more than fancy new 256bit packed data with same or less functionality that SSE5 claimed that will have all in one release --Bulldozer core. So all that SSE4/AES/AVX will be included in AMDs SSE5 just where they did wrong was telling Intel an all of us what it is all about it long before even first 45nm Penryns go into prototype production :wtf:

I maybe misunderstanding you here, but your third statement makes it seem like AMD just sold Intel the rights to something they already have in the works. So it seems like the sold them the right to call it SSE5 instead of three different things. If that is the case, no lose no gain by Intel.

vagxtrI keep my fingers crossed about that. But somehow i hope that AMd-ATi wont make third businese mistake.

1. x86 crosslicence agreement after they developed new Hypertransport capable, x86-64 and MCH-on-die CPU!

2. ATi sold crossfire rights to quickly fill managers pocket before they sold business to AMD ... Well they cross AMD if they didnt just suck up Intel to buy them instead developing their own inbred x86-GPU. We all se how much of money nVidia could make on selling patent to Intel and ATi give away for free just to have quick insight of how old Netburst/Core2 bus works And they dont even produce enough chipsets for AMD since takeover and have unsigned agreement not to produce Intels chipsets (not that anyone would buy them now when CF is part of al Intel chipsets since P965). So hail nVidia for that's the way of making business, this AMD-Intels stuff is just a fog of false war. And thank god they trying to revive that great Transmeta Crusoe architecture. Just hpe they won make moves like with Ion LE and fuse functionality of their CPUs when they came out to the market. Yep wishfull thinking

3. And now sell away SSE5 research Ip for few dimes to Intel. After all Intel implemented most of that stuff thru all that SSE4.2 and upcoming all thru AES-NI (in Westmere) and 256bit AVX that will in fact be nothing more than fancy new 256bit packed data with same or less functionality that SSE5 claimed that will have all in one release --Bulldozer core. So all that SSE4/AES/AVX will be included in AMDs SSE5 just where they did wrong was telling Intel an all of us what it is all about it long before even first 45nm Penryns go into prototype production :wtf:

Please don't double post. :cool:


I was thnkign more along the lines of selling to Intel their older tech to help Intel out inthe GPU area of the system on a chip design they are strving for. AMD has a better design by lightyears than Intel already, and their biggest competition in the samer are is Intel and Nvidia, so if they get royalty rights to crossbreed with intel, they win. If they gain more marketshare from nvidia they win. If they get help pushing against Nvidia ont ehri larger money making chipsets like Ion, they win.


Really I expect they probably gave up IP regarding the current integrated video in their chipsets, and future chipsets with the ability to possibly start making Intel chipsets, and since they own part of the MFG facility that is setup for such...they win.


Even if all they do is put a big dent in the green camps glory, and cause themselves a small amount of hurt but make money, they are better off than before.

Intel has paid up

www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-intel-1.25-billion-settlement,9258.html

TheLaughingManI maybe misunderstanding you here, but your third statement makes it seem like AMD just sold Intel the rights to something they already have in the works. So it seems like the sold them the right to call it SSE5 instead of three different things. If that is the case, no lose no gain by Intel.

You get me wrong as you usually do :rolleyes: I was pointing out how wrong is AMD strategy when they announce SSE5 as ONE LARGE UPDATE as Intel does implement same idea in much smaller steps

And as far SSE5 goes (i usually don't cover all that in my notepad) seems they're long time abandoned SSE5 aside a already working platform (rename it, recode it) and adopt AVX in Bulldozer ... for the same reason as before AMD don't make small improvements as Intel and Sandy Bridge will follow Bulldozer in 6 month if we trust H2 2009 roadmap :laugh: and they would be left picking daisies if they make another huge fallback as they did with K8L (Phenoms, Athlon II)

And to go to that question. I meant on settlement for AMDs research they did on SSE5 implementation (in that third point) and i know that they have working crosslicence agreement but as far Intel is concerned they allow them implementing their instructions but they explain them how they done it. So that's one reason why Athlons XMM are excellent performing native 3dNow!/3dNow!+ but significantly drop (down for some 20%) when "better" SSE2/SSE3 comes into action. So i just hope they didn't done another poor deal as they use to. And then they'll crying about it in five year time as Intel rip them off.

And by these new Polaris 48 dual core thing Intel announce in might be they spy on AMDs old K8-1 idea, that will finally be implemented in Bulldozer, that actually licensed by this agreement :)