Wednesday, January 18th 2012

SOPA/PIPA Internet Protests Go Viral, Hit Home

The protests to the widely condemned SOPA & PIPA "antipiracy" censorship bills have been a resounding success. They have gone viral with many, many websites blacking out and putting up protest pages, with big players taking part such as Wikipedia, Google, EFF, Reddit, Craigslist, Techdirt (greyed out) and many more taking part. Unsurprisingly, the bills' backers have not shown any sign of backing down (yet) but were prompted to make statements "wondering what all the fuss is about" to play down the damage done to their play for power, since they have recently made changes to them, such as removing the DNS blocking provisions - for now. Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) senior vice president of communications Jonathan Lamy called the protests 'stunts': "It's a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users and arm them with misinformation. It's time for the stunts to end and those who claim to care about rogue website theft to back up their rhetoric and work with us on meaningful solutions." This is the same RIAA that sued their own customers with extortionate "settlement" letters remember.
The US Chamber of Commerce has also been a vocal supporter of these bills. Their chief counsel on intellectual property, Steve Tapp thought that the shutdown was strange: "The PROTECT IP Act and SOPA have been modified by their sponsors to address concerns by removing entirely the provision that would have required blocking of criminal sites. Strangely, those who demanded that change are now shutting themselves down, although it is not clear why they are still protesting after they got what they wanted."

So, these people and others like them are clueless over what kind of total control this gives corporate copyright holders over the internet and the kind of damage that it will cause? Sure. Not a massive power grab or anything, then.

If these bills are allowed to pass, then sites across the internet universe are all at risk of being summarily shut down without any warning over mere allegations of copyright infringement. For example, a site like TechPowerUp could be shut down in an instant over mere allegations that a forum member had made a copyright violating post. These are the actions of a totalitarian state, not a democracy and must be stopped dead.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is of course also doing its bit to fight these bills and have posted about it here. Along with information (pdf) about the perils of the bills, they have also linked to a couple of protest sites for people to sign, one run by themselves. For Americans: blacklist.eff.org and one for non-Americans: americancensorship.org/modal/state-dept-petition/index.html

Finally, www.techdirt.com as usual, has extensive coverage of this issue, often from angles one may not have thought of. Well worth bookmarking. PCWorld are also covering this extensively and have an index page of articles here.
Source: PCWorld
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133 Comments on SOPA/PIPA Internet Protests Go Viral, Hit Home

#27
Lionheart
OMFG this comment section resembles youtube's comment section, pathetic arguing --_--
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#28
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
LionheartOMFG this comment section resembles youtube's comment section, pathetic arguing --_--
What is Pathetic is people just do not get involved more with what the government is doing NOT TILL it hit HOME . Now that it is hitting home things are starting to stir .
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#29
Undead46
tricksonWhat is Pathetic is people just do not get involved more with what the government is doing NOT TILL it hit HOME . Now that it is hitting home things are starting to stir .
Just because you're clicking a button doesn't mean you're getting involved with the government.
When was the last time you actually voted for something in your state?
November 8th, Texas Amendments here. That's participating...

And you claim I had no idea the government already monitors my phone calls, but that's common sense after the 9/11 attacks, specifically the Patriot Act that Bush signed.... I actually know quite a bit, and I'm not scared of SOPA.

And how come you're not protesting the Patriot Act?
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#30
entropy13
Undead46Just because you're clicking a button doesn't mean you're getting involved with the government.
Just because you're not clicking a button doesn't mean the government won't be getting involved with you.
Undead46When was the last time you actually voted for something in your state?

November 8th, Texas Amendments here. That's participating...
Since when did "participation" have to be restricted to voting?

That's like saying destroying the Berlin Wall by the Germans themselves isn't "participation" simply because they didn't "vote" to destroy the Wall beforehand.
Undead46I actually know quite a bit, and I'm not scared of SOPA.
WTF? So you're now implying that to go against SOPA means there should be "fear" in you beforehand? You mean, you can't go against something if you don't fear that something itself?
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#31
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
entropy13Just because you're not clicking a button doesn't mean the government won't be getting involved with you.



Since when did "participation" have to be restricted to voting?

That's like saying destroying the Berlin Wall by the Germans themselves isn't "participation" simply because they didn't "vote" to destroy the Wall beforehand.




WTF? So you're now implying that to go against SOPA means there should be "fear" in you beforehand? You mean, you can't go against something if you don't fear that something itself?
I could not have said it better myself THANK YOU !!! I am against this crap I am against BIG GOVERNMENT Against them taking away my rights ! Yes This is an infringement on my rights !
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#32
Undead46
entropy13Since when did "participation" have to be restricted to voting?

That's like saying destroying the Berlin Wall by the Germans themselves isn't "participation" simply because they didn't "vote" to destroy the Wall beforehand.
Dude, that's a fail analogy because the Berlin Wall was torn down from an uprising, and unless you physically participated in tearing it down, just being a citizen doesn't make you apart of the cause.
And I admit that I was being an extremist when I said voting is participating, but 99% of the internet didn't know of SOPA until it already reached the House, so to say you had participated is ignorant, because it's out of your hands and into your representatives.
entropy13WTF? So you're now implying that to go against SOPA means there should be "fear" in you beforehand? You mean, you can't go against something if you don't fear that something itself?
All I was implying was ME, personally, am not going to be afraid of the government just because it passes, if it passes.
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#33
ViperXTR
@entropy13: lol getting worked up here eh? maybe you can join the discussion on the current ongoing impeachment trial of the Chief Justice in our country in TPC (oh wait, you hate TPC now, my bad hehe)
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#34
entropy13
Undead46Dude, that's a fail analogy because the Berlin Wall was torn down from an uprising, and unless you physically participated in tearing it down, just being a citizen doesn't make you apart of the cause.
Dude, that's a fail interpretation from what I've just said, dude.
Undead46All I was implying was ME, personally, am not going to be afraid of the government just because it passes, if it passes.
Which is not even being disputed by anyone, anywhere anyway. "Being afraid" and "fear" isn't even being talked about here. Specifically, "personal fear", but rather the "fear" that a neutral and free internet would no longer be neutral and free. Not necessarily that they are "fearful" of themselves.
ViperXTR@entropy13: lol getting worked up here eh? maybe you can join the discussion on the current ongoing impeachment trial of the Chief Justice in our country in TPC (oh wait, you hate TPC now, my bad hehe)
We're better off to have had that "suspicious briefcase" be a real bomb so that all the senators die, as well as Corona, the SC bldg, House of Representatives, etc. Back to zero, so to speak. Nothing would really change since all Philippine politics are just "democracy among elites" ever since the US took over in 1899.
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#35
Undead46
entropy13Which is not even being disputed by anyone, anywhere anyway. "Being afraid" and "fear" isn't even being talked about here. Specifically, "personal fear", but rather the "fear" that a neutral and free internet would no longer be neutral and free. Not necessarily that they are "fearful" of themselves.
And you're under the assumption that you're no longer going to have freedom if this passes.
That's called fascism.

I don't even know why you're arguing with me. You're allowed to your opinions and views and I'm allowed to mine.
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#39
entropy13
Undead46And you're under the assumption that you're no longer going to have freedom if this passes.
No, I'm under the assumption that THE INTERNET would no longer have that "freedom". Why do you keep on putting things on a personal level anyway? Does freedom only work in an "individual level" now?
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#40
_JP_
HTCHere in Portugal they're trying to pass a bill regarding "multimedia HDDs" and it will affect anything that has storage in it such as MP3s, cameras, printers, phones and, most of all, HDDs.

If it passes, HDD's price will have a small increase of 0.02€ per GB up to 1TB and 0.025€ per GB for more the 1TB.

- If a 1TB HDD costs 100€ now, it will cost 120.48€.
- If a 2TB HDD costs 200€ now, it will cost 251.2€.
- If a 3TB HDD costs 300€ now, it will cost 376,8€.

Current HDD prices were made up for this example, ofc.


Dunno specifics on other devices increases.

EDIT

Here's a translated article: translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Faeiou.exameinformatica.pt%2Ftodos-os-partidos-concordam-com-lei-que-aumenta-precos-da-informatica%3Df1011641%23ixzz1jq1qp46G&sl=pt&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8
What saddens me is that this will go trough and there is nothing we can do about it. :( But that's the nature of this country, pay taxes for every friggin' s**t. :shadedshu

EDIT: But hey, since I'm paying a tax that is made to cover for lost revenue due to piracy (which I already do when I buy CD/songs/etc...), that will just mean I will stop buying everything and just DL it. After all, I already paid for it.

EDIT 2: The sooner newegg starts shipping to Europe, the better. They have a whole country waiting to be able to buy.
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#41
ice_v
Hate to bring politics in the discussion, but could the president theoretically end all these bills (SOPA ACTA PIPA) or at least make them stall under his presidency if he would only wanted too?
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#42
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
I'm impressed, www.wired.com are still holding their protest and have the front page censored right now. :D
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#43
entropy13
ice_vHate to bring politics in the discussion, but could the president theoretically end all these bills (SOPA ACTA PIPA) or at least make them stall under his presidency if he would only wanted too?
He can veto it, but if both the House of Representatives and the Senate manage to override the veto through a two-thirds vote for each chambers, then the bill still becomes law.
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#44
ice_v
entropy13He can veto it, but if both the House of Representatives and the Senate manage to override the veto through a two-thirds vote for each chambers, then the bill still becomes law.
Thanks I was kinda hoping this guy would have the power to go against the bills in case he would be elected president... :ohwell:
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#45
Arctucas
tricksonWOW JUST WOW ! So you could careless what rights and freedoms are taken from ANY American as long as yours are not being taken ? Do you like YouTube ? ebay ? Face book ? So how would you like it if they were no longer there any more ? How about twitter ? You like that ? What if they just closed it down ? I mean with these bills they will have the power to just that and you know what they will and they will do it with out even asking YOU ! Ignorance is bliss till it hits HOME !

P.S. I haven't been to a movie in 10 years ! FUCK THEM !
I sort of agree with Undead46, but for different reasons.

I believe people should be free to do as they wish, however, your rights end where another person's rights begin.

And if YouTube, Twitter, eBay, Facebook et al disappear from the Internet, I would would not even notice, because I do not use any of them.

And, the last movie I went to was the world premiere of The Wall in L.A. in 1982.
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#46
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
ArctucasI believe people should be free to do as they wish, however, your rights end where another person's rights begin.
This is only if you infringe on the same rights as the other person . So many people take this out of context . Hollywood has rights but they are now wanting to infringe on my rights ! So my rights have to be taken away because they say so ? I do not think so ! But again ignorance is bliss . Just how much do they take till you say enough is enough ? Really by that time it is too late . Just look what happened to the Jews in Germany ! That is a PRIME example of people letting there rights go with out any fight at all then when they were all taken and had enough it was just too late . Maybe you should watch this just watch it . It just might make you smarter . www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TbNIU2KEz4g

It is too late to dig a well when you are thirsty !

" How do you know the constitutions hasn't been perverted if you haven't read IT " !!!!! Words of wisdom !!!
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#47
Arctucas
tricksonThis is only if you infringe on the same rights as the other person . So many people take this out of context . Hollywood has rights but they are now wanting to infringe on my rights ! So my rights have to be taken away because they say so ? I do not think so ! But again ignorance is bliss . Just how much do they take till you say enough is enough ? Really by that time it is too late . Just look what happened to the Jews in Germany ! That is a PRIME example of people letting there rights go with out any fight at all then when they were all taken and had enough it was just too late . Maybe you should watch this just watch it . It just might make you smarter . www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TbNIU2KEz4g

It is too late to dig a well when you are thirsty !

" How do you know the constitutions hasn't been perverted if you haven't read IT " !!!!! Words of wisdom !!!
I read the above several times, but I am not fully comprehending the point you are trying to make?

Regarding infringing on the same rights, for example, are you saying I have the right to steal as long as the person I am stealing from is also stealing from someone? Or perhaps I should be permitted to kill someone because they also killed a person?

Would you be so kind as to elucidate your reference to Hollywood infringing upon your rights?

I do not do YouTube, so I will have to pass on whatever it is...

What part of the Constitution are you referencing, in particular?

I believe we actually agree on some points, but it is hard to tell about others.
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#48
TheMailMan78
Big Member
The fact Obama signed the NDAA and you people are still worried about SOPA proves to me you are already sheep. SOPA is a dream compared to the NDAA. But since it doesn't effect your free warze you don't care. But you will when you say something online and they deem you an enemy of the state.
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#49
trickson
OH, I have such a headache
Let me see here Hollywood has the right to free speech yet they want to take this right away from you and me . Just how will they do this ? Lets say you are taking a video and in the back ground your T.V. is on playing a movie that just happens to be caught on camera well with the law passing YOU WILL BE IN VIOLATION and punished under said LAW ! The site will be as well taken down fined or any other such punishment they Deem necessary ! Now this will also go for any thing that is heard as well . Now kids taking videos singing along with there favorite song will also be in violation of the law as it is written . So free expression is NOW OUT THE WINDOW subjugated to the law of Hollywood ! So now impersonations of your favorite songs and even actors is now subject to approval from the Government and Hollywood !
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#50
TheMailMan78
Big Member
tricksonLet me see here Hollywood has the right to free speech yet they want to take this right away from you and me . Just how will they do this ? Lets say you are taking a video and in the back ground your T.V. is on playing a movie that just happens to be caught on camera well with the law passing YOU WILL BE IN VIOLATION and punished under said LAW ! The site will be as well taken down fined or any other such punishment they Deem necessary ! No this will also go for any thing that is heard as well . Now kids taking videos singing along with there favorite song will also be in violation of the law as it is written . So free expression is NOW OUT THE WINDOW subjugated to the law of Hollywood ! Starting to get it NOW ? Or is this just too over your head ? So now impersonations of your favorite songs and even actors is now subject to approval from the Government and Hollywood !
Who cares. SOPA being passed or not its over. Goverment just killed the 4th and 6th amendment with the NDAA and you are still worried about SOPA? WHO CARES.

I say let SOPA pass and any other law they want. Its over. "They" won. Welcome to the future.......also known as the past.
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