seronx---Remember this----
GeForce 8800 GTX - 90nm
PCIe 1.1 x16
484mm²
128 CUDA Cores
GeForce 9800 GTX - 65nm
PCIe 2.0 x16
324mm²

nikkoYes. the latter had 10% more transistors despite being 128bit less. that means a total of 20% additional space... otherwise 9800GTX would have been 1.9x shrink more or less 250mm2. back then TA/TF were added and 65nm was leaky, they had to add more of those. the chip ended being 324mm2.

Now with 28nm it is possible to have 512 Cores and 256 bit if history repeats itself. More likely 448 at launch, but 2.5Ghz speeds on the shader, that is way better than GTX580.

SteevoYeah cause more transistors immediately means more performance.;)

radrokWhile I agree with you, Benetanegia, I think that you sure have a harsh way to make your point :)

ThefumigatorIts not the first time nvidia says they are "confident" and they have a "better product going on" just after an ATI release.

Volkszorn88AMD has the upper hand because they released 79xx series first. Who knows how long it will take nvidia to release their new gpus.

Now here's the best part, if and when nvidia's new gpus crush the 79xx series, they're going to cost way more than 500 bucks and AMD will look at this and say "lol k well now we can start working on the 8k series"

In the end, it works out beautifully for consumers.

Prima.VeraNo actually is quite the opposite. It work beautiful for nvidia and ATI but definitely NOT for consumers, because there is no price war :ohwell:

Super XPMore Nvidia fluff, trying to convince people to wait for there cards. While NV is blowing smoke, HD 7900 Series Radeons are selling like hot cakes.

El_MayoIf this were the case, AMD would end up dropping their prices to stay relevant, right?