Friday, January 27th 2012

NVIDIA Engaged in PsyOps Against HD 7970: Chinese Forum

A lot has been said about NVIDIA's upcoming product with which it will compete against AMD's Radeon HD 7900 series, except of course, pictures, benchmarks, and so on. Chinese tech forum ChipHell accused NVIDIA of deploying shills across forums to shape public opinion about the already-launched HD 7900 series, towards waiting for NVIDIA's competitive product, these include blind talk about imaginary performance superiority, killer price, etc.

Chinese forums have recognized patterns in this spurt of anti-AMD and pro-HD 7970 imaginary-competitor product posts and banned scores of user accounts engaged in this activity. There's a very potent reason why ChipHell's observations shouldn't be met with cynicism, or made light of. In China, competing factions in the ever-ruling Communist party have been known to use what is known as "the 50 cent army", where for a pittance, scores of internet forum posters can be engaged to perform coordinated PsyOps, to shape public opinion, and maintain public support. It is only natural, then, that competing companies in the extremely competitive Chinese domestic market resort to similar tactics, including those distributing NVIDIA GeForce graphics cards, or, as Chip Hell alleges, NVIDIA itself.
Source: HardOCP
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112 Comments on NVIDIA Engaged in PsyOps Against HD 7970: Chinese Forum

#76
THE_EGG
What is with this seronx guy?! :wtf:
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#77
TheMailMan78
Big Member
seronxAnd, I was right Bulldozer is the highest performing part on the market
.........ok Ill bite.

How do you figure this when every major benchmark on every mainstream site says different? I'm not trollin, I want to know how you come to the conclusion Bulldozer is the highest performing part on the market when every viable statistic says otherwise.

I don't want fuzzy math. I'm a meat and potatos guy. Sell me Bulldozer. Why should I go with Bulldozer over a 2600K? Price is irrelevant.
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#78
GC_PaNzerFIN
NVIDIA made too big promises when they were working with GTX 4xx and people rightfully were disappointed with them. And now when they don't make promises too early people still hate them.

You just can't please everyone no matter what you do...

I take all accusations without a single proof with ton of salt, but I don't say it can't be true either. But hell this soap opera about new GPUs has gone out of hands. Have some patience and ignore the crappy rumors till you hear something from the green giant itself.
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#79
THE_EGG
TheMailMan78.........ok Ill bite.

How do you figure this when every major benchmark on every mainstream site says different? I'm not trollin, I want to know how you come to the conclusion Bulldozer is the highest performing part on the market when every viable statistic says otherwise.

I don't want fuzzy math. I'm a meat and potatos guy. Sell me Bulldozer. Why should I go with Bulldozer over a 2600K? Price is irrelevant.
hey MailMan its a little irrelevant but you have leet thanks :) 1337
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#80
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
THE_EGGhey MailMan its a little irrelevant but you have leet thanks :) 1337
Shall I thank another one of his posts and ruin it? :D :laugh:
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#81
TheMailMan78
Big Member
qubitShall I thank another one of his posts and ruin it? :D :laugh:
You can't. Only I can. Its not thanked posts. Its how many post I thanked.
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#82
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
TheMailMan78You can't. Only I can. Its not thanked posts. Its how many post I thanked.
Oh duh. Yes, of course. :o Truly a facepalm moment, lol.
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#83
I blee it
GC_PaNzerFINNVIDIA made too big promises when they were working with GTX 4xx and people rightfully were disappointed with them. And now when they don't make promises too early people still hate them.

You just can't please everyone no matter what you do...

I take all accusations without a single proof with ton of salt, but I don't say it can't be true either. But hell this soap opera about new GPUs has gone out of hands. Have some patience and ignore the crappy rumors till you hear something from the green giant itself.
Well said! Does anyone really believe that Nvidia isn't going to stomp on the HD7970 when Kepler makes it's debut? It's coming. Waiting a few couple of months don't mean squat when you have to wait anyway for the HD 7970 "paper tiger" to materialize. And god help you with the innevitable driver issues with AMD.
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#84
Damn_Smooth
EarthDogThe card is great, but its extremely limited availability is a paper launch to me. Even though the 7950 was delayed for more availability, I would expect it to be limited as well. Not as bad as the 7970, but limited.




This place cracks me up.
I have no idea what point you are trying to make, but you failed. If you don't think it's time for Nvidia to release Kepler, you have issues that I'm not willing or qualified to help you with. Keep sitting there and laughing though, someone will eventually come along that cares enough to take you to a place where you can get that help.
THE_EGGWhat is with this seronx guy?! :wtf:
Long story short, he bounces numbers around his head all day until they form some jumble that defies all logic. Then he spreads the mess as fact.
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#85
THE_EGG
Damn_SmoothI have no idea what point you are trying to make, but you failed. If you don't think it's time for Nvidia to release Kepler, you have issues that I'm not willing or qualified to help you with. Keep sitting there and laughing though, someone will eventually come along that cares enough to take you to a place where you can get that help.



Long story short, he bounces numbers around his head all day until they form some jumble that defies all logic. Then he spreads the mess as fact.
ah thanks for the explanation :)
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#86
seronx
Damn_SmoothLong story short, he bounces numbers around his head all day until they form some jumble that defies all logic. Then he spreads the mess as fact.
Nope. Most of the time I am playing video games :laugh:
qubitDo this and myself and the rest of this forum might stop thinking that you're simply a troll.
Well I just enjoy being green!

Can't help but support the green team
qubitbtw, I haven't seen those nice leaked benchmarks I challenged you on. ;) Come on, let's see them. :laugh:
What leaked benchmarks?
TheMailMan78I don't want fuzzy math. I'm a meat and potatos guy. Sell me Bulldozer. Why should I go with Bulldozer over a 2600K? Price is irrelevant.
Well, you already have an 990FX board... I don't know your workloads so you have to tell me your workloads aka tell me your applications
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#87
NdMk2o1o
Huh how is this news? :rolleyes:
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#88
buggalugs
THE_EGGlol its $750-$850 in Australia :shadedshu while the gtx 580 ranges between $480-$600. GTX 580's at my local comp stores are nearly always sold out since the 7970 came out.
You can get a 7970 for $699 in Australia, and the price should drop by the end of the month. I havent seen any stores sold out of 580's but the 7970's sold out within a couple of days. Dont know where you live but all the major stores in Melbourne have plenty of 580's.

They just got new stock of 7970's in the last few days and they put the price up but they're still selling.

The 580's were $699-$799 when they were released in Australia so I dont see much difference there.
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#89
Prima.Vera
reverzeno surprise, i am sure older members on this forum will remember how nvidia paid well respected members of tech forums to make pro nvidia posts.
Yeah, good ol` days of '90, when 3Dfx was trashing everything, including ATI's Rage or Nvidia's Riva...Yes I remember those days, he he..:toast:
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#90
THE_EGG
buggalugsYou can get a 7970 for $699 in Australia, and the price should drop by the end of the month. I havent seen any stores sold out of 580's but the 7970's sold out within a couple of days. Dont know where you live but all the major stores in Melbourne have plenty of 580's.

They just got new stock of 7970's in the last few days and they put the price up but they're still selling.

The 580's were $699-$799 when they were released in Australia so I dont see much difference there.
lucky :(, my local MSY and Gamedude is sold out of 580's. I have to drive into the CBD of Brisbane pretty much (25-45 min depending on traffic) to get to a place that has it in stock. Yes I just check umart and the cheapest 7970 (HIS) is $699 so I guess that isn't too bad. Looks like most of them have decreased about $50 since release.
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#91
p3gaz_001
sorry but... this nvidia's bullshit and whatever is becoming ridiculous ........
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#92
radrok
Come on, come on guys we all know who is going to win this round...










Intel's Ivy Bridge IGP running DX11 on VLC :roll:
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#93
p3gaz_001
radrokCome on, come on guys we all know who is going to win this round...










Intel's Ivy Bridge IGP running DX11 on VLC :roll:
ahahah for sure!!! :laugh: :laugh:
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#94
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
AMD has had a really strong execution of product release for the last 2 series of cards. Honestly I wont spend more than 300 on a card these days ( Yes R9700 Pro AIW was 400 at the time)
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#95
I blee it
Mark my words. Nvidia is going to romp all over AMD yet again...it's not like AMD isn't used to getting butt-stomped by the big dogs. Intel anyone!?!
Sad to see, but even the AMD fanboys are falling by the wayside. Seen it before. PS3 will whoop Xbox360...lmao BlueRay wins the day!?! Stagnant. What's next?

Everyone I know isn't peeing their pants in anticipation of Nvidia nuking the latest AMD puke-card. Story is over. Guess who won?

So...what's next?

More of what we already have. Not only because the current generation is profitable but also because the current generation of consolers are conditioned to "play" whatever the usual Drivel-Makers plop down on the market. (Not all included)
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#96
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
So why is it that majority of users here have AMD cards now even crossfire and x2 models? :wtf:
I blee itMark my words. Nvidia is going to romp all over AMD yet again...it's not like AMD isn't used to getting butt-stomped by the big dogs. Intel anyone!?!
Sad to see, but even the AMD fanboys are falling by the wayside. Seen it before. PS3 will whoop Xbox360...lmao BlueRay wins the day!?! Stagnant. What's next?

Everyone I know isn't peeing their pants in anticipation of Nvidia nuking the latest AMD puke-card. Story is over. Guess who won?

So...what's next?

More of what we already have. Not only because the current generation is profitable but also because the current generation of consolers are conditioned to "play" whatever the usual Drivel-Makers plop down on the market. (Not all included)
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#97
ensabrenoir
eidairaman1So why is it that majority of users here have AMD cards now even crossfire and x2 models? :wtf:
Its simple really..........THEY ROCK .... straight jimmy hendricks in his prime kinda rock.
And theyre.....were cheap. Nvidia always had more muscle though. Even though this time I will get nvidia...cant deny how good amd/ati product is...gpu wise
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#98
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
ensabrenoirIts simple really..........THEY ROCK .... straight jimmy hendricks in his prime kinda rock.
And theyre.....were cheap. Nvidia always had more muscle though. Even though this time I will get nvidia...cant deny how good amd/ati product is...gpu wise
Me personally can only see NV having a good lead back during the 8800 series. Odd enuf the 640MB 8800 GTS was very sought after due to the framebuffer size, Most kept a hold of their GTX and Ultra Models as well.

AMD has been providing solid products for the last 3 cycles though, 4800 series might not been fastest out but they were able to maintain good framerates compared to the 2900 and 3800 series. Before that AMD did well with the x800 series despite not having the latest SM tech for that time. X1900/1950 series. Then of Course the 9700 Pro.
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#99
I blee it
"So why is it that majority of users here have AMD cards now even crossfire and x2 models?"

Skipped the drivers issue I see. <sigh> same 'ol same 'ol

Anyway. Thanks for making my point. The Graphics Cards Battle isn't about who's best. It's about fan based loyalty. The same holds true with console-playing-weenies.

So, as a purportedly semi-intelligent monky would ask me... wtf?

What's next is the real ?

And?
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#100
erocker
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I blee it"So why is it that majority of users here have AMD cards now even crossfire and x2 models?"

Skipped the drivers issue I see. <sigh> same 'ol same 'ol

Anyway. Thanks for making my point. The Graphics Cards Battle isn't about who's best. It's about fan based loyalty. The same holds true with console-playing-weenies.

So, as a purportedly semi-intelligent monky would ask me... wtf?

What's next is the real ?

And?
I see no point to your post or how it relates to the topic of the thread. Keep on topic please.

Thanks! :)
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