Thursday, March 1st 2012
Kepler Unbeatable: NVIDIA
The tiresome wait for NVIDIA's next-generation GPU is drawing to a close. Or so suggests a Facebook wall post by NVIDIA Italy, which reads (in Italian, of course):
Source:
XtremeSystems Forums
Aspettando Kepler... pazienza, pazienza, pazienza che il momento giusto arriverà, e allora... non ce ne sarà più per nessuno! :-)That can be translated as "Waiting for Kepler ... patience, patience, patience, the right time will come, and then ... it will be unbeatable (sic)." From various sources we're hearing that there will be hectic activity surrounding the launch of NVIDIA's next-gen GPU in the weeks to come.
165 Comments on Kepler Unbeatable: NVIDIA
Most people don't take these things into account, but they are very important, because that's what Nvidia is going to aim for this time around too. Why? Because of the die size, we know they are aiming at the same kind of improvement they tried with GF104 over the previous gen. And we know how that would had played if 40 nm had not become a nightmare for Nvidia. AMD released Barts and Cayman, replacements that were significantly bigger than the chips they were replacing at the time that Nvidia only "fixed" GF100/104, and that's why GF110/GF114 vs Cypress/Juniper is a comparison no one does, but in order to better understand what are the posibilities with Kepler it's very very important to note them, because once again the die sizes are the same. Conditions are pretty much the same, except that 28nm is simply much better.
This time around things are supposed better for Nvidia, and GCN is clearly less efficient (for gaming) than VLIW, so 10% here + 10% here and GK104 could easily end up being significantly faster than HD7970.
I will,,,,,, if Kepler runs Cooler and cheaper(low performance per watt) i can buy more of them, and the bits to run them, Cheaper grammar tart fag :eek: yeh it was me, i said it:banghead:
People really name their PC? ,er yes, same as i name my car ,but a different name < much better version of a gay dig at someone , just so you know of course
and if something costs the earth, eats too much of ya life, and rapes you of any available cash, ya better call it something ,if not', your wife!.
i see everyone in this thread neglecting power efficiency but it is actualy everything! not only for the enthusiast side but all across the spectrum, it is what one would look at to see which architecture is superior, a gtx580 is faster than a hd6970 but it also has a bigger die size and higher tdp and requires more power
comparing nvidia and amd in the past has always been like comparing american car engines to european car engines, europe having smaller refined engines(amd), while america replies with its big engines with MOAR POWER(nvidia)
that being said its interesting to see nvidia changing directions with its new kepler chips
GTX 670 beats the 7970 @ 225W TDP bhutwhutevuh no one listens to little ole Seronx
AMD and NV and been one upping each other for how many years now and it will continue aslong as they are making money.
Who really give a fuck who is faster aslong as it plays your games and doesn't break your wallet.
It really sad to have so much invested in a brand and unless you own stock what is the point. They both just want your money....
When I see NV released a product that is reviewed then this will catch my interest until then its all hearsay and utterly USELESS!
Except to have you guys fighting like little girls watching oprah...
For crying out loud, please... :shadedshu
And mister bellerano, ur in trouble mate :D
Blast from the Past
:roll:
Remember the XFX 8800 ultra XXX. here in Australia they were over $1000.
i've got 6 years experience with radeon. and what they had called buggy driver. i've only experienced not much than all the fingers in my hand..
what they faced isnt a buggy driver, but mostly crappy and bad configuration on their hardware ..
Why don't we all.... Get this. Why don't we all buy what we want to buy and not flame anyone who buys something else?
IMO given their stance these new cards will perform very well.
I agree that we should wait for the reviews before judging Kepler.
Also, you would have to wait for reviews anyway because whitepapers aren't always accurate.
but on the long run for some1 like me who usually cant afford the top end it really makes no difference what i buy since competition in the market almost always leads to the cards being priced accordingly.
i guess it all nails down to the features and which architecture you prefer(certain games favor some architectures to other)
The top-end for the HPC community doesn't come with GK104.GK104 Spring
GK106 Summer
GK112(GK110) Fall
Also, (my) projections:
GK104 Max ASIC Stock Clock: 3,891.2 GFlops/ 3.8 TFlops, $299 ~342 mm²
GK112 Max ASIC Stock Clock: 9,830.4 GFlops/ 9.8 TFlops, $499-599 ~544mm²
2 x GK112 Max ASIC Stock Clock: 15,974.4 GFlops/ 16 TFlops, $899-999 2x ~544mm²
Less hate more love for competition!