Monday, August 27th 2012

AMD "Vishera" FX-Series CPU Specifications Confirmed
A leaked AMD document for retail partners spelled out specifications of the first three FX "Vishera" processors by AMD. The new CPUs incorporate AMD's "Piledriver" architecture, and much like the first-generation "Zambezi" chips, will launch as one each of eight-core, six-core, and four-core chips. The eight-core FX-8350 is confirmed to ship with 4.00 GHz nominal clock speed, with 4.20 GHz TurboCore speed. The six-core FX-6300 ships with 3.50 GHz nominal, and 4.10 GHz TurboCore speed. The quad-core FX-4320, on the other hand, ships with the same clock speeds as the FX-8350. In addition, the document confirmed clock speeds of several socket FM2 A-series APUs, such as the A10-5700 and the A8-5500.
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493 Comments on AMD "Vishera" FX-Series CPU Specifications Confirmed
I see no reason at all for them to stop doing dedicated desktop cpus. Since these cpus come from the server parts, i find it silly for them to don't make the extra cash.
I see bad management again for AMD. APUs are not ready for really high performance yet.
I see AMD sinking and fast. If they have the same mindset for servers as well, then they will sink for sure.
APU server parts are already in the market place afaik.
I run a PII x4 955 @ 3.99Ghz day in day out and this MIGHT actually be an upgrade if it overclocks well! HerEs to hoping! (and hoping arma3 is more CPU optimized!)
Way more powerful than APU's currently.
How ever no where near as efficient power wise, production wise and space wise. Oh and lets not forget performance for price where they would own two dedicated pieces of hardware.
Pretty much every device in the future will be a combination of CPU/GPU AMD are right when they say the future is fusion.
That is the main difference. I think you may have misunderstood me.
The point that i want to make here is: Even if AMD has no plans to do dedicated cpu's they still have to innovate and push harder to be faster. Currently they really don't have those things in place. So its a big risk from my point of view to go full APU from now because they are not ready for that yet.
I think they have already improved on that lately if i am not mistaken.
So AMD will be miles behind again soon enough in "CPU/GPU"
They still have to improve allot on the CPU side.
They want to combine those two so that the production cost drops, and that is planned for the FM2 socket. Don't forget that Trinity's GPU is still based on the VLIW4 architecture, when they introduce a GCN based APU it will bring a lot better performance (and great compute power!) and efficiency.
And looking at the Trinity benchmarks it's actually a great improvement compared to Llano.
The high end segment doesn't exist anymore in gaming like it used to. We've getting to a point where even a CPU from 2009 can play the latest games well or a cheap £50 CPU from today is plenty. There really isn't any need to spend £200+ on a high-end CPU for gaming. The high end CPU gaming market is dying and APUs are putting the last nail in the coffin.
IMO, in a decade or so there will only be APUs. And dedicated video cards will be reserved for the elite gamers whom want to SLI or CF their dedicated cards with their APU.
I guess we will know what crap shoot this is when reviews are posted.
Might even buy a Piledriver rig just to play with and overclock.
As a side note, I recently played some games at a friends house (dude is an AMD fanboy trapped in the AthlonXP glory days) on his Bulldozer FX-8120 rig, and everything was just fine.
If you don't measure the FPS on screen, you wouldn't know you were playing on an 'inferior' CPU. Everything was pretty smooth.
Also, it doesn't matter how improved Piledriver may be if the Intel compiler still forces all non genuine-intel CPUs to run non-optimal codepaths.
I was thinking of an all in one system. A system which would be a console for games and a pc at the same time. APU style. :laugh:
SB still wipes the floor with piledriver in games.
Now all i need to know is when the FM2/1090FX mobos will be released. Here's for larger (16M?) L3 cache, real 10 - 15% performance improvements over BD & just about everything else BD lacked. Dreaming yeah, but you can't take it from me now, do you? :) :toast:
gmplib.org/pi-with-gmp.html
arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/07/atom-nano-review/6/
www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_C%2B%2B_Compiler
Even if they finally decide to do it, its still far away from now.
Somewhere about near the end of 2013.
So when the software catches up with the hardware they'll both offer decent performance with AMD theoretically having better compute power. ( so better for media creation, editing,rendering and gaming)
Now personally I don't understand why everyone is against AMD improving products and releasing new chips. You do understand that if it was an Intel only market we would not see improvements like we do now, prices would skyrocket etc...Just remember on release the Athlon X2 4200+ was $537 Intel was the same pricing. I am all for a "crappy" Piledriver chip for $200. Intel can keep its $500+ chips.