Monday, September 24th 2012
AMD FX "Vishera" Processor Pricing Revealed
AMD's upcoming second-generation FX "Vishera" multi-core CPUs are likely to appeal to a variety of budget-conscious buyers, if a price-list leaked from US retailer BLT is accurate. The list includes pricing of the first four models AMD will launch some time in October, including the flagship FX-8350. The FX-8350 leads the pack with eight cores, 4.00 GHz clock speed, and 16 MB of total cache. It is priced at US $253.06. The FX-8350 is followed by another eight-core chip, the FX-8320, clocked at 3.50 GHz, and priced at $242.05.
Trailing the two eight-core chips is the FX-6300, carrying six cores, 3.50 GHz clock speed, 14 MB total cache, and a price-tag of $175.77. The most affordable chip of the lot, the FX-4350 packs four cores, 4.00 GHz clock speed, and 8 MB of total cache (likely by halving even the L3 cache). The FX-4350 is expected to go for $131.42. In all, the new lineup draws several parallels with the first-generation FX lineup, with FX-8150, FX-8120, FX-6100, and FX-4150.
Source:
HotHardware
Trailing the two eight-core chips is the FX-6300, carrying six cores, 3.50 GHz clock speed, 14 MB total cache, and a price-tag of $175.77. The most affordable chip of the lot, the FX-4350 packs four cores, 4.00 GHz clock speed, and 8 MB of total cache (likely by halving even the L3 cache). The FX-4350 is expected to go for $131.42. In all, the new lineup draws several parallels with the first-generation FX lineup, with FX-8150, FX-8120, FX-6100, and FX-4150.
221 Comments on AMD FX "Vishera" Processor Pricing Revealed
Either way, anxious to see these new CPUs in action... from a first-grade source, that IMHO are hard to come by... and put some pressure on Intel (at least for us, on consumer level...).
IPC comparison between BD Core and PD Core should be better when they are both clocked the same, whether in single thread or multi thread, and PD should be better than Stars Core.
I did notice that Comparisons have Core i at higher clocks than Core 2.
semiaccurate.com/2012/09/06/a-brief-look-at-amds-steamroller-core/
I don think the old 800MHz wuold equal the new 200Mhz, I can see maybe double that for the Piledrivers
I'm not spreading disinformation, I'm basing my statements off numbers. Notice all of my statements are cited, and have actual numbers attached to them--yours are largely vague things you had heard or been told by AMD's marketting team (which anyone here can tell you is pretty loose with the facts). I'm not an Intel or AMD Fan Boy, I want the best bang for my buck, and paying $280 for a CPU (FX-8150--although the cheaper 8120 was a much better buy) that barely edged out its predecessor (Phenom II X4/6) in anything but very heavily threaded tasks was not a great investment. I want Piledriver to be great, but realistically it probably won't be as massive an improvement as people want--just like Bulldozer wasn't the massive improvement over Phenom II people wanted.
I paid $239 for my FX-8150 3 weeks after launch at Amazon , Newegg had higher pricing with no availabilty so I went the Amazon route. I feel quite satisfied with my purchase and now I got good value. You overpaid and are not happy that i,s not AMD's fault it is yours for not shopping around. I am not a shootemup gamer, I dont like fascist, imperialist games. I only play strategy games and do real work on my computer. The FX is great for people who are not idiot gamers on roid rage and use the cpu for work intensive chores. That is where talented and skilled programmers thread their apps properly unlike the brain dead gaming programmers who have never heard of multithreading something that was in vogue in os/2 applicaftions
databases,games like Galactic Civilization which started as a multithreaded app on OS/2 Warp more than 16 years ago. It is obvious to me windoze programmers as a group play to the lowest common denominator and never up the the architecture of their apps to anywhere near where their potential lies. I really care less about those anti-working class fascist games and even less of the patriotic ass-kissers who play them.
I paid $239QUOTE=xenocide;2731807]L3 Cache will definitely boost performance, but not by much. We're talking at best 5%. I was basing it off the sources you yourself cited. As for "reworked algorithm"s all I know is they claimed there was in issue with the latency of the L3 Cache, and that it had been addressed. The bottom line is the PD-based Trinity APU performed 15% better clock for clock than a BD-based CPU (which had L3 Cache), but still was 33% slower than an Intel CPU at a lower clock speed. There is absolutely no way the addition of L3 Cache will cover that gap.
I'm not spreading disinformation, I'm basing my statements off numbers. Notice all of my statements are cited, and have actual numbers attached to them--yours are largely vague things you had heard or been told by AMD's marketting team (which anyone here can tell you is pretty loose with the facts). I'm not an Intel or AMD Fan Boy, I want the best bang for my buck, and paying $280 for a CPU (FX-8150--although the cheaper 8120 was a much better buy) that barely edged out its predecessor (Phenom II X4/6) in anything but very heavily threaded tasks was not a great investment. I want Piledriver to be great, but realistically it probably won't be as massive an improvement as people want--just like Bulldozer wasn't the massive improvement over Phenom II people wanted.[/QUOTE]
Yeah. Real different.
Capitalist culture is racist, xenophobic, sexist, and imperialist. There is no way around it. It's in the music, the movies, and in the lies our children are taught in school etc. Those games that are different are very few and far between. I do like Revolution Under Siege where you can fight to defend the workers' revolution in the Soviet Union during the 1919-1921 civil war , which in fact was an invasion by over a dozen European and American armies that ultimately failed to topple the first worker's state in the history of the world. But that games is one in a million.
Let's face it we live in the dictatorship of the capitalist class. The facade of elections is a joke. It's all been bought and paid for well before the candidates are chosen and even announce their campaigns. So in reality we can encourage and build worker's culture in a positive way , but in no way will we be able to supplant the dominant negative selfish culture until the capitalist states are smashed internationally. Then we can build a new culture of inclusiveness and egalitarianism.
Toms hardware guide previewed and compared the FX 8150 at 3.80 GHz and 8 cores versua the A10-5800K that only has 4 cores and no L3 and not all the mods done to the Vishera.
Vishera is looking like the best upgrade option for now, but I would like to see review s when they come out. :)
Should I get this or wait even longer???
Believe me though, I want AMD to succeed, but every bit of pertinent information tells me that nothing "great" will be coming from AMD in the CPU market for quite some time.
They said Piledriver would see a 15% improvement in throughput but that doesn't necessarily mean +15% IPC. They could mean performance/watt or performance/dollar and their statement would be true:
FX-8150 $245 125w TDP 3.6Ghz = $68/Ghz 34w/Ghz
FX-8350 $250?? (I don't know if this is MSRP or not) 125w TDP 4.0Ghz = $62/Ghz 31w/Ghz ~15% improvement in perf/watt ~10% improvement in perf/dollar
All I have seen out of you in this thread, that you joined to post in.
Is calling another member a liar for posting information that doesn't agree with your ideas.
Double posting.
Making baseless and false statements about "real work".
And the ever present red herring.
Congrats.
This IS a case of reverse psychology...isn't it?
Nothing wrong with a little speculation. And when there is facts, I present them with links.Link?
Thanks,
I do believe that in most game tests Vishera will be in the running against a 2600k even if a little behind the 2600K. In most non-gaming benchmarks I believe it will blow away the 2600k.
I do a little Photoshop, a lot of word documents with photos, mostly leaflets to organize the working class for rebellion against the financial crisis and the rotten capitalist system. I am not an IT professional and I do not think one must be one to advocate intelligently for good hardware and software. I know moist gaming software is poorly designed and could potentially use multi-threading if the designers and companies had a desire to produce a superior product. They are lazy and making too much money, too easily of an ill-informed public. I am passionate and through my labor and student organizing skills and speech making over the years I know how to in a minimum of word cut through the bull and get to the salient points. I may offend some but that is not my object. My objective is to get to the objective truth. Now I am no shill for AMD, they are corporate and could well be lying about things .But I do know what they said and I do know the difference between smoke and mirrors and reality If the piledriver release is a promise not met I won't buy it and I will call them out on it If it is an improvement worthy of being called a next generation product I will buy it and advocate for it.
Piledriver will soon enough prove itself as an improvement over Bulldozer under AMD's new management team.
Even at a higher clock rate, that would be great, so long as it runs at lower or equal volts than Bulldozer.