Friday, September 28th 2012

AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz over LN2: Company
AMD's new A10-5800K "Trinity" APUs, launched earlier this week, are capable of extreme overclocking, something similarly-priced Intel processors can't claim, according to Adam Kozak, desktop products manager with the company. According to Kozak, the roughly $150 A10-5800K are capable of 6.50 GHz overclocked speeds, when augmented with liquid nitrogen cooling.
Overclocking capabilities give AMD's sub-$150 chips such as the A10-5800K, A8-5600K, and A6-5400K an edge over similarly-priced Intel chips. The cheapest overclockable chip from Intel's current lineup is the $220 Core i5-2500K. Based on the "Trinity" silicon, the A10-5800K ships with clock speeds of 3.80 GHz, which go up to 4.20 GHz with TurboCore. The chip features an unlocked base clock multiplier, which makes overclocking possible.
Source:
TechWorld.com.au
Overclocking capabilities give AMD's sub-$150 chips such as the A10-5800K, A8-5600K, and A6-5400K an edge over similarly-priced Intel chips. The cheapest overclockable chip from Intel's current lineup is the $220 Core i5-2500K. Based on the "Trinity" silicon, the A10-5800K ships with clock speeds of 3.80 GHz, which go up to 4.20 GHz with TurboCore. The chip features an unlocked base clock multiplier, which makes overclocking possible.
157 Comments on AMD A10-5800K Capable of 6.50 GHz over LN2: Company
i bet i could pop over to the intel hits 7Ghz thread and not sea the same people moaning about Ocing on Ln2 there or its relevance.
So yh, 3+ years running a CPU that cost me £70 back in the day and still going strong. AMD is really ripping me off :)
Name one midrange to high end AMD CPU that did not last 4 years from its release? - That is right you can't. Sit down.
Situation right now reminds me of the late K7 days. Thunderbird, Palomino, Thoroughbred A/B and Barton... Same old guys, same old critters in terms of performance margin... I had them all, they actually so sucked tech wise, although P4 sucked also altough they are now like these tractors(couldn't hold my self with this deja vu), I loved the Tualatin much.
They need to scrap everything again. That's my only suggestion... Their hybrid path they currently are introducing is for the sake of servers, to introduce a universal computable machine model doing simple math on GPU and complex on x86 part, no additional TESLA or Larrafailbree, but they are rushing too fast in my opinion, they have not the balls for it now. To me it is all useless, they are half baked stillborns from Frankensteins lab.
And currently no useful software is made for it either OS wise. If M$ or Linux will introduce a heterogeneous OS that really uses data smartly and decides witch calculation it will be like, at last a OS from the new century. A winrar extraction, antivirus or even the heck pr0n video - hey GPU wake up and work, or even a dedicated ARM part in the CPU whatever it will be like just a simple math and same with the doing complex math CPU. Then yes yes - only apu's FTW. CPU is a dinosaur from stone age to me then as for a buyer.
So the salt is, that the data scheduler in the APU must be very tightly binded with the OS kernel. And apps should be compiled that way also with certain flags. And yes, we have a revolution. Greener world, less electricity bill, and the heck a faster cooler computer. So we are mimicking what mobile devices will actually do in near future. Still now for all mobile OS'es, GPU only does the UI part and still taxing with large I/O and memory overhead, so OS wise it is like a workaround still, not a new approach. Intel is an idiot and makes it even worse, for android introducing a recompiler on the fly to use ARM apps on their stupid/hot x86 crippled Atom. It is complete a nonsense evolution wise.
Intel can afford that due to their fab technology that currently only they had in the world. They can build a CPU like that any moment actually. But they are lazy, as there is NO competitor, they just die-shrink what they have = invest zero money in R/D and sell! = profit still counts as win, despite the stupid way how it was achieved.
AMD could do this and evolve only notebook mobile solutions and save money and R/D for desktops, and make simple behemoth chips like K8 was. It is funny to see that this chip still performs worse than a proper K10.5. I still think that the best thing was using GPU integrated in North Bridge for office home theater systems. Beat me if I am wrong...
You make some valid points, but let me elaborate by providing a link and on why this unique CPU Architecture was the right choice for AMD's future.www.pcper.com/reviews/Editorial/AMD-Vishera-and-Beyond-New-Design-Philosophy-Dictates-Faster-Pace
AMD will fix this new Micro-Architecture, and by the time Excavator or even Crane comes out, AMD should be either on par or faster than Intel IMO.
Supervisor? Yeah a wet dream, it would be nice I still haven't got my degree :(, life sucks in some places man. :wtf:
But we all have to agree... software in the current generation wise is bullcrap, and all overbeefed hardware is compensation for the poor coding style. It is some kind of illness and plague. BTW I've read some conspiracy stuff elsewhere that most software is written poorly for AMD due to intel bribes and is truly intentionally written poorly for AMD's memory stack. :D Yeah I've told already that these current CPU's are half baked stillborns from Frankensteins lab. :D
TH did a quite unbiased test on this after AMD fans raged about their infamous "sandy bridge has game" article.
I'm happy that you are satisfied with your CPU (it's a good one after all), but looking at the additional power costs you had to pay in those years and the performance you got as a return, perhaps it doesn't look that outstanding anymore if you compare it to the competition.
1920x1080p is only now becoming popular and it's still isnt the norm. I game 1440x900.
Also that review has just a single 6850, whereas currently I'm running a two 5850s (CF); And my CPU is OC'd. So my experienced might be enhanced.
My point was that even a midrange CPU 3+ years ago is still going strong. For OneMoar to imply that AMD CPUs can't last 4 years is nonsense.
I did not meant to offend you, and I'm really rooting for AMD to be successful and do some awesome CPUs like the SB/IB series, because the greater the competition is, the better for us:toast:
Generally speaking, minimum, maximum and average frame rate will still increase as you lower the resolution. e.g. Crysis 52.9 FPS at 1024x768 and only 26.2FPS at 1900x1200
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_5850/10.html I'm not offended
I think the answer is Llano / FM1.
*moving on*
AMD's two unfortunate situations within the CPU industry cost them time and money. But they've recovered. 1) Barcelona & 2) Bulldozer. Barcelona being a modified design based on a previous, where as Bulldozer coming from outer space and hand crafted by Aliens. :rolleyes: All AMD needs to do now is rectify this space age design and flourish.
So lets just hope this is an indication that AMD is starting to produce better CPUs and leave it at that. No cursing, no flaming, and an honest answer about what this article says says, because I really hope AMD can deliver. Maybe I just like the underdog, but just remember, just because AMD chips aren't as fast as Intel's in all circumstances by no means says that AMD produces a bad processor. It's important that everyone understands that. AMD and Intel are both companies that are worthy of praise, regardless of which one might be better. Respect is the name of the game.
If Intel were the only maker of CPU's, you would still see new technology as time went on, otherwise nobody would ever upgrade, meaning Intel would bleed dry. Monopolies only really work in fields where people have to buy a product multiple times; things like Electricity, Internet, Oil. Monopolies in those areas cause the consumer to get screwed because people NEED to buy Gasoline to get to and from jobs, they need to heat their homes, and power their lights and refrigerators.
If Intel knocked AMD out, they would have to compete with a much larger and more powerful foe--Intel. Intel never directly compares to AMD, because they don't really have to worry about it. It's not like with, say Aspirin, where you see commercials of them going "Tylenol is x% more effective than Advil!" If there were no performance gains to be had, people would stop buying Intel's products across the board. This would destroy Intel in no time flat. Every day people don't drive Intel and AMD to innovate, and the competition probably has minimal effect too (duopolies are just as--if not more--dangerous as monopolies). The best analogy is The Joker and Batman in The Dark Knight--Intel needs AMD around, to keep them from destroying themselves.
The industry as a whole drives these companies to innovate. Software Developers, Web Developers, Film Editors, Audio Engineers, these people need more powerful hardware a shit load more than your Grammy does.
Also, 'Space Age' design? There's no way you actually believe that, nobody could be that ridiculous...