jihadjoeAFAIK TDP is higher because the VRM is integrated onto the die. Total platform power remains the same, if not slightly lower.

I suspect that the iVRMs with the higher switching frequency than tradition VRMs will result in smoother and more stable voltages. Intel also reported high currents that these bad boys can churn out. Despite not being a huge advance, I think it might overclock incredibly well because of the changes to power delivery.

We shall see though, it's just around the corner. :cool:

4770K Shall Be Mine At Launch.

AquinusI suspect that the iVRMs with the higher switching frequency than tradition VRMs will result in smoother and more stable voltages. Intel also reported high currents that these bad boys can churn out. Despite not being a huge advance, I think it might overclock incredibly well because of the changes to power delivery.

We shall see though, it's just around the corner. :cool:

It will be interesting to see what these achieve in capable hands as the vrms do look high powered with multiple hundred phases and such , id imagine amds top clock record is a possibility given that the vrm will churn some ln2 along with the cpu v interesting in that regard but im expecting these to require really good cooling for high regular use over clocks.

meh i'm good with my 3570K and i5 2400, they do the job just fine :D

interesting times ahead.... prices look good... the whole board argument is moot as to anyone using intel knows what to expect and are generally ok with it. A nice possible upgrade to anyone on sandy or earlier. Overclock results will make it either meh or BOOYAAH!!!!

ShinshinGuys, don't forget that to upgrade to the new Haswell processors you will need a new motherboard..... :cool:

A good deal would be to get the i5-4570 with a CHEAP (under 100 EURO) ASRock Z87 PRO3 motherboard

The Von MatricesThe i7-4770K is clocked lower and has a higher TDP than the i7-3770K. That's interesting. I hope that means that the IPC improvements are significant.

uhhhhh.................4770k is clocked the same as the 3770k



3770k

so we will be like noob and say, wow new cpu's series, OMG should we change the 2700k and the 3770k, dam it this is look really faster.
fu**k off Intel at least try add 200mhz-300mhz

Hayder_Masterso we will be like noob and say, wow new cpu's series, OMG should we change the 2700k and the 3770k, dam it this is look really faster.
fu**k off Intel at least try add 200mhz-300mhz

Intel stopped brandishing higher MHz after the Pentium 4. Remember how the early Core 2 CPUs had such low clocks compared to the Pentium 4 CPUs? Haswell is offering some improvements that aren't MOAR GHZ.

I wonder when we'll see some more news on Haswell Xeons... I want my next-gen RAM now!

AquinusNot sure what graph you're looking at but the one here says 3.5Ghz, 3.9Ghz turbo for the 4770k which is the same as the 3770k.

robEi think you are looking at the i5, not i7 because it`s the same with 3770k

LAN_deRf_HAWhat chart are you looking at... cause it's not the one I am.

MxPhenom 216uhhhhh.................4770k is clocked the same as the 3770k[/url][/URL]

I figured it out - btarunr changed the picture (without mentioning anything) immediately after I posted. This is what it originally was, and it's what my cache still has. I refreshed the image URL and now I see what you are seeing.

jigar2speedHeh, my Q6600 at 3.5 GHZ is still going absolutely awesome

That CPU at that speed performs on par with an i3-2120, a CPU no serious gamer would even consider in 2013 (or 2011 for that matter). I you don't believe me, look at this chart;
www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
The Q6600 is the 4th one from the bottom of the chart, scores 2962 CPU marks, I'm adding a generous 30% for the overclock, ~3850, even though it probably would score less due to it's limited memory bandwidth.
My brother still has the same CPU as you, but he's not a gamer, and he doesn't overclock. I mess with him regularly, about does it runs on electricity or does it have a waterwheel to power it, etc.
If you're still not convinced, download Passmark Performance Test, run it, and see how many CPU marks you score. My i5-3570K overclocked to 4.6 GHz scores a little over 9000.
What games are you playing? My guess would be older DX9 games if you are still happy with the Q6600.

no price for the 4830k?

Waiting to see how i7-4770 overclocks (with +4 bins & hacked turbo bins, as well as the BCLK overclocking)... if it can go over 4.5GHz on all cores, might go for that... Intel sucks for cuting down features out of the K versions...

Otherwise, IDK... might as well wait for Steameroller and a official PCI-E 3.0 supporting AMD chipset...


Curious to how well that HD 4600 overclocks as well, hope at least 1600MHz guaranteed... GPU market is so bland at the moment (not to mention, no cash...) and I haven't been gaming for a while, so I won't be pretentious for at first... :D

HoodThat CPU at that speed performs on par with an i3-2120, a CPU no serious gamer would even consider in 2013 (or 2011 for that matter). I you don't believe me, look at this chart;
www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
The Q6600 is the 4th one from the bottom of the chart, scores 2962 CPU marks, I'm adding a generous 30% for the overclock, ~3850, even though it probably would score less due to it's limited memory bandwidth.
My brother still has the same CPU as you, but he's not a gamer, and he doesn't overclock. I mess with him regularly, about does it runs on electricity or does it have a waterwheel to power it, etc.
If you're still not convinced, download Passmark Performance Test, run it, and see how many CPU marks you score. My i5-3570K overclocked to 4.6 GHz scores a little over 9000.
What games are you playing? My guess would be older DX9 games if you are still happy with the Q6600.

Sounds to me like this is a sh@tty benchmark. A heavily OCed 3570 gets as much points as a fx-8350 at stock? The 3570 should run circles around the AMD.

HalfAHertzSounds to me like this is a sh@tty benchmark. A heavily OCed 3570 gets as much points as a fx-8350 at stock? The 3570 should run circles around the AMD.

Wait what are you looking at? No overclocked CPU's there. And it depends on what they are doing.

EDIT: Doh didn't read my eyes are huuuurrttiininnnnggg. There's something else bogging him down, if you look at the chart the FX-8350 is on par with a stock i7 3820.

FrickWait what are you looking at? No overclocked CPU's there. And it depends on what they are doing.

EDIT: Doh didn't read my eyes are huuuurrttiininnnnggg. There's something else bogging him down, if you look at the chart the FX-8350 is on par with a stock i7 3820.

Yar. I suspect that the 8350 dominates on the integer-based benchmarks where the 3820 does a bit better with floating point. There is a lot of variables in there too considering they only tell you about the CPU being tested and nothing about the platform.

The Von MatricesI figured it out - btarunr changed the picture (without mentioning anything) immediately after I posted.

Make sense!

HD4600...
AMD should do something with copy right stuff...

de.das.dudeHD4600...
AMD should do something with copy right stuff...

Yeah copyrighting numbers is a fantastic idea.

FrickWait what are you looking at? No overclocked CPU's there.

Yes they only show the averages for thousands of stock clocked systems, too many variables in OC systems for meaningful comparisons. Passmark is a very good benchmark, but obviously the scoring takes into account multi-threaded performance in some of it's tests, so that's why a CPU like the 8350 scores so high, even though it's real world performance is somewhat lower, as few programs can use all 8 cores. It's good for running a quick benchmark on your overclocked CPU to see how it compares to more expensive options at stock clocks. I guess HalfaHertz was referring to my stated score of 9000+ on 3570K@4.6 GHz, that it should score higher than the stock 8350, but like I said it's 8 cores vs 4.

intel is simply getting lazy, me personally I wsill not be buying haswell. I'm tired of needing a new board every time I want to upgrade. I'll be jumping aboard the amd train next upgrade.

From where I sit...

For me, labouring away on a Q6800 with a GTX 285 with a (shudder) Vista OS, knowing later on this summer I get to upgrade, I think an i7-4770k and current gen GPU sounds just about right!

Anxious to get the details on the range of new motherboards and the feature set that'll be on offer. Finding the "teasers" more annoying than anything else!

I wonder: why do people keep treating TDP as power consumption thread after thread?

IkarugaI wonder: why do people keep treating TDP as power consumption thread after thread?

People are simply used to appliance wattage numbers. *shrug* They see a wattage, that's how much it uses!

Zuu111For me, labouring away on a Q6800 with a GTX 285 with a (shudder) Vista OS, knowing later on this summer I get to upgrade, I think an i7-4770k and current gen GPU sounds just about right!

I just moved from an i7-2670QM and AMD HD6990M to a Q6600 and 9800 GTX+, luckily I have a solid state drive so it's still snappy, but gaming on this is surprisingly decent (all things considered)