Friday, June 7th 2013

Apistek Shows Off Innovative Liquid Cooling Solutions

We never heard of Apistek before today, but looking some of the stuff they brought to Computex, we won't be surprised if the brand gets popular among enthusiasts all over, particularly those into liquid cooling. Founded in 2011, this Chinese company made its Computex debut this year, where it's scouting for distributors to global markets. The company showed off a unique new full-coverage water block for Radeon HD 7990 dual-GPU graphics cards based on a widely implemented design by TUL. The design involves two independent copper+acetal GPU blocks with coolant tubing running serial, and a heatspreader dropping heat from the card's obverse memory chips, and VRM.

Apistek also showed off two innovative cylindrical tower-type radiators for liquid cooling setups. Design of the two is inspired by Zalman Reserator, a device which had a brief stint at the markets around 2005, that combined the functionality of a pump, reservoir, and radiator into a single cylindrical device that doesn't need fans. Its design involves a pump at the base, a dense helical metal coolant channel that lines the inner wall of a ridged metal cylinder, where heat is dissipated, and a reservoir at the top. Apistek showed off a 370 mm-tall desktop variants that can optionally hold on to four 120 mm fans for better cooling, and a taller 592 mm pedestal version that doesn't need any fans. Both towers have independent AC power input and coolant pressure adjustment on device.
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24 Comments on Apistek Shows Off Innovative Liquid Cooling Solutions

#1
Jorge
I laugh at the people who have "discovered" water cooling for PC components. Unless it's a proper H2O system it can actually produce higher temps than a quality HSF. In any case the big liability with H2O cooling is system damage when, (not if), leaks occur and they will occur. If all you do is play with your PC and you're willing to accept the liability of damge from leaks, then go for it. If on the otherhand you're looking for good, reliable, inexpensive (comparatively), CPU/GPU/APU cooling, there are a number of excellent HSFs that are a far better choice for 99% of PC enthusiasts.

I don't know that these "innovative" designs from Apistek are really worth the effort?
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btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
I agree. If it worked, Zalman Reserator wouldn't have died off.
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#3
Breathless
"Innovation" and "unnecessary monstrosity" are two different things...
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#4
AlienIsGOD
Vanguard Beta Tester
JorgeI laugh at the people who have "discovered" water cooling for PC components. Unless it's a proper H2O system it can actually produce higher temps than a quality HSF. In any case the big liability with H2O cooling is system damage when, (not if), leaks occur and they will occur. If all you do is play with your PC and you're willing to accept the liability of damge from leaks, then go for it. If on the otherhand you're looking for good, reliable, inexpensive (comparatively), CPU/GPU/APU cooling, there are a number of excellent HSFs that are a far better choice for 99% of PC enthusiasts.

I don't know that these "innovative" designs from Apistek are really worth the effort?
that is one of the most sensible posts you have made... ever :D :rockout:

and i totally agree with it.
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#5
m1dg3t
The Chinese seem to just love building things people will never use! :roll:
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#6
xvi
The only innovation I see is that they've put the fans on the sides (facing each other, no less).

"Innovation" isn't quite the word I'd use.
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#7
RCoon
The reserator didnt work out. This is a giant goddamn eye sore that NOBODY would want to have to carry around everytime they wanted to move their case elsewhere. This is all merely a gimmick to get attention. I hope Taiwan enjoys their ridiculous cooler manufacturer, because I believe, we will not.
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#8
natr0n
"wow dude what is that thing a battery?"

"ah don't worry about it, it's from the future"



I would like to try it out actually.
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#9
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
the designs look weird and unfinished and ugly. there is hardly any portion that looks nice about it. plus i see wires in the open.

also isnt this like the zalman reserver with some ghettomodded fans to it? how can this be innovative when it has already been done!
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#10
brian111
btarunrI agree. If it worked, Zalman Reserator wouldn't have died off.
Is it possible that the design is better? It was quite a few years ago.
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#11
confuzyon
JorgeI laugh at the people who have "discovered" water cooling for PC components. Unless it's a proper H2O system it can actually produce higher temps than a quality HSF. In any case the big liability with H2O cooling is system damage when, (not if), leaks occur and they will occur. If all you do is play with your PC and you're willing to accept the liability of damge from leaks, then go for it. If on the otherhand you're looking for good, reliable, inexpensive (comparatively), CPU/GPU/APU cooling, there are a number of excellent HSFs that are a far better choice for 99% of PC enthusiasts.

I don't know that these "innovative" designs from Apistek are really worth the effort?
I will agree with you about the product being just plain silly. Although the Zalman Reserator doesn't do anything for the overclocking crowd those who demand complete silence know where to turn. I have one running in my media room. That media machine is an entirely passive cooled machine and is obviously quieter than anything with even a single fan running.

I have to disagree with you on the watercooling front. I've been running water cooled machines for 22 years now. It is not for the beginner but if you know what you're doing leaks are about as common as winning the lottery. A big heavy heatsink is far more likely to cause very strange issues as the motherboard bends. ASUS has recently launched motherboards with a backplate to help with this issue.
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#12
Animalpak
btarunrI agree. If it worked, Zalman Reserator wouldn't have died off.
Zalman reserator was killed by the excessive price...
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#13
LAN_deRf_HA
Is that their booth that's decorated with air cooled cards from other brands?
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#14
wickerman
I had the Reserator on my desktop build years ago and I have missed it ever since...especially now that the focus at Intel is turning towards more efficient architectures and more manageable TDPs compared to what we had with the Pentium Ds at the time lol. Though as I recall I was using an A64 X2 3800, but previously had an A64 3200 and my GPU in the same loop. I probably would have been able to cool my cpu and the 6800 series I had at the time, but the block I had for the GPU wouldn't fit.

If I could effectively cool my 2600K and GTX 680, I would gladly go back to passive water cooling. The silence it offered was awesome and only interrupted by the hum of the old 74gb raptors.

And it was not difficult to manage, if you wanted to move the system there was quick release valves at the base of the Reserator that made it easy. Adding coolant was just a quick twist of the cap on the top of the Reserator as well.
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#15
AsRock
TPU addict
WOW your neighbor see's that he be phoning the police thinking you have some kind of reactor lol.

Police: how may we help you sir ?
Caller: i am concerned about my neighbor as it looks like he\she has some kind of bomb.
Police: cann you discribe what it looks like ?
Caller: Yes, it's circular with some sort of fins all around it
Police: ok sir we'll come check it out..
Caller: yes it looks like it might be able fly too..
Police: Ok we come check it out, have a good day sir.
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#16
Hood
confuzyonI have to disagree with you on the watercooling front. I've been running water cooled machines for 22 years now. It is not for the beginner but if you know what you're doing leaks are about as common as winning the lottery. A big heavy heatsink is far more likely to cause very strange issues as the motherboard bends. ASUS has recently launched motherboards with a backplate to help with this issue.
Very well said, especially the part about bending the motherboard; I never liked large heat sinks, right in the middle of everything, and you bump it trying to plug in fans etc. It's far easier to work inside your case when you water cool, and even cheap AIO units like my H100 are much better for overclocking. It's only a matter of time (and funds) before I build a custom loop, and leaks are the least of my worries. It's not rocket science after all, just keeping coolant inside a low pressure circulation system. And I don't remember anyone posting about coolant leaks, not even on the "What's your worst PC building mistake" thread.
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#17
btarunr
Editor & Senior Moderator
AsRockPolice: how may we help you sir ?
Caller: i am concerned about my neighbor as it looks like he\she has some kind of bomb.
Police: cann you discribe what it looks like ?
Caller: Yes, it's circular with some sort of fins all around it
Police: ok sir we'll come check it out..
Caller: yes it looks like it might be able fly too..
Police: Ok we come check it out, have a good day sir.
The cops then find out it's a submersible tube-well pump for use in farms.
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#18
ypsylon
It actually isn't that bad as it looks. Resenator was fine piece of hardware.

What killed Resenator as a family was exuberant price.

Apistek's creation could be viable option if it cost less than custom loop. IMHO 60% of custom. Knowing how expensive Resenator was as a setup I wouldn't bother with trying to sell this. If I would go with external LC I would buy one of Aqua computer Aquaducts.
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#19
micropage7
i just can say why and why
the rad looks OK but the fans are NO NO..
why dont they make something like adding some fins on that rad so it can run passive
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#20
AsRock
TPU addict
btarunrthe cops then find out it's a submersible tube-well pump for use in farms.
lol...
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#21
NeoXF
de.das.dudethe designs look weird and unfinished and ugly. there is hardly any portion that looks nice about it. plus i see wires in the open.

also isnt this like the zalman reserver with some ghettomodded fans to it? how can this be innovative when it has already been done!
LOL "ghettomodded" :roll:
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#22
The_
Apistek - read: A Piss Take.

Yes I agree, they take a the piss.
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#23
D4S4
when will somebody finally integrate a car radiator as one side of the case, older generation fiat punto rads look perfect for the application, as big as the case and no thicker than 3cm
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#24
DinaAngel
D4S4when will somebody finally integrate a car radiator as one side of the case, older generation fiat punto rads look perfect for the application, as big as the case and no thicker than 3cm
a car radiator is about 350% less effective than example a monsta 480 radiator, maybe thats even too little %. theyr not meant to be so effective, as its so your engine doesnt get over like 600 celsius, well diesel engines has major issue here in north at winters that they dont get hot at all, so best to use gasoline cars here if u like warm car air conditioning. but diesel engines, reason they dont get hot so much isnt because of radiator, its the way its ignited, gasoline is ignited by a spark but diesel is usually just heated up and then ignited with compression, also the reason they use diesel based products in some explosives, since u need quite alot to ignite diesel, pressure is the main thing u need, either from blast hat used in dynamite or use a cylinder and compress it fast and strongly enough with air
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