fullinfusionThis thread has gone to the wind!

Just nice to see a legend card at fair price no mater what company made it.

Amd/Nvidia Who cares! Sure Nvidia can do this and that, but does it do what Amd does?

Some things yes and others not. I'm just glad the price dropped and If I had the cash Id pop one into my rig :cool:

You know tbh amd's latest driver is slick, and playes games so bloody smooth you Nvidia fans might get a bit jealous, jk but yeah nice news :rockout:

Amen to that, my brother :toast:

I had a decent first-time Crossfire experience with an HD 7970 and 7950 with these drivers. I only tried Tomb Raider and TF2 (only utilizes the first card anyway) and while Tomb Raider is still somewhat stuttery, I still enjoyed the much higher FPS over my single 7970.

Jstn7477I had a decent first-time Crossfire experience with an HD 7970 and 7950 with these drivers. I only tried Tomb Raider and TF2 (only utilizes the first card anyway) and while Tomb Raider is still somewhat stuttery, I still enjoyed the much higher FPS over my single 7970.

Do you run V-sync in the game? If not you should ;)

Hair tess amd the ultamate runs sweet even if i disable cross-fire :cool:

fullinfusionDo you run V-sync in the game? If not you should ;)

Hair tess amd the ultamate runs sweet even if i disable cross-fire :cool:

I didn't since I used the same ultimate settings that my 7970 used and wanted to see the FPS difference/not have lots of VSYNC frame drops, but I'll probably set my monitor down to 100Hz as it seems my setup should handle it most of the time. :toast:

Jstn7477I had a decent first-time Crossfire experience with an HD 7970 and 7950 with these drivers. I only tried Tomb Raider and TF2 (only utilizes the first card anyway) and while Tomb Raider is still somewhat stuttery, I still enjoyed the much higher FPS over my single 7970.

I'm surprised that TR is stuttery, as TR has been pretty amazing for me. I haven't experienced any issues with that game with crossfire.

What do you mean when you say it is somewhat stuttery?

Jstn7477I didn't since I used the same ultimate settings that my 7970 used and wanted to see the FPS difference/not have lots of VSYNC frame drops, but I'll probably set my monitor down to 100Hz as it seems my setup should handle it most of the time. :toast:

Here's a game, Gears of war! Turn V-sync off and when you look left and right you get screen tear.. Some games I find require to always change the video setting size for the monitor. GOW a prime example when you dont go to low res at start up the visuals look the shits. So I always change the monitor size to the lowers and click apply then go back and select the highest setting and click apply again with V-sync on and the game runs smoother then 40 creek over the rocks ;)

Id just try every game with V-sync on then off and take note what plays and looks the best. :cool:

It didn't feel *completely* smooth although that may be a sideaffect of not using VSYNC or a refresh rate that better matches the framerate. My monitor seems to be quite sensitive to FPS drops so that may be why.

Jstn7477It didn't feel *completely* smooth although that may be a sideaffect of not using VSYNC or a refresh rate that better matches the framerate. My monitor seems to be quite sensitive to FPS drops so that may be why.

Have you tried to drop the monitor refresh rate from 120 to 60hrz?

I know my monitor is capable to go higher nut looks and plays the shits so I leave it on 60hrz and it plays and looks sweet.

Jstn7477I had a decent first-time Crossfire experience with an HD 7970 and 7950 with these drivers. I only tried Tomb Raider and TF2 (only utilizes the first card anyway) and while Tomb Raider is still somewhat stuttery, I still enjoyed the much higher FPS over my single 7970.

With the drivers pre <13.8 the "higher" fps you seen really wasn't higher i was just a tiny frame a few pixel's wide being inserted. Fraps or any other software that gives fps messures the speed of what comes outta the game engine and before drivers. So on say what is registered at 120fps was more like 60-70 due to all those tiny frames that didn't do anything for you. with 13.8 beta driver AMD fixed the problem on single monitor up to 2560x1600 cases.

btarunrIn a bid to step up competitiveness of its Radeon HD 7990 "Malta" dual-GPU graphics card against NVIDIA's GeForce GTX TITAN and GTX 690, AMD add-in-board (AIB) partners slashed prices of the card by almost a third. What was once retailing for $1,100-1,200, is now down to $699.99. Prices of the card on American retailer Newegg.com, are ranging between $699.99 to $789.99, with two AIBs capturing the $729.99 and $749.99 price points, along the way. With the right kind of CrossFire profiles, a Radeon HD 7990 can offer frame-rates rivaled only by GTX Titan and GTX 690. Then there are also AMD's recent CrossFire micro-stuttering fix, and eight Never Settle games with realistic resale value of $100 to account for. These prices should also give GeForce GTX 780 buyers second thoughts.

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Strange name for videocard ''MALTA'' its cityname in my country :)

fullinfusionThis thread has gone to the wind!

Just nice to see a legend card at fair price no mater what company made it.

Amd/Nvidia Who cares! Sure Nvidia can do this and that, but does it do what Amd does?

Some things yes and others not. I'm just glad the price dropped and If I had the cash Id pop one into my rig :cool:

You know tbh amd's latest driver is slick, and playes games so bloody smooth you Nvidia fans might get a bit jealous, jk but yeah nice news :rockout:

you mean a ASUS ARES II dual 7970 GHZ Ed right? oh wait this one will still be above 1400 no ... the "normal" non "limited" to 1000 pcs "official" 7990 oh well its a card of legend too indeed.

oh i noticed someone is trying to sell a ARES 5870x2 4gb start bid 600 direct buy 1000 and argue the card is 1400 new ... well ofc its 1400 new but a 5870 in these days ... ARES or not ... well he might find a buyer for a collection but he better do it on Ebay :rolleyes:

Does anyone else considering there's something close to this performance, although one GPU that could could be price like this? So, AMD figures they need to make this price fall-in-line well before buyers find out what they could be recieving for $699. :rolleyes:

BigMack70This has already been tested by several sites, and the difference is minimal. Frame pacing does not hurt overall performance numbers in any meaningful way. I think you need to stop with the hatorade.

Got to agree... Nobody can prove AMD was 'cheating' as this dude incessently says. The FCAT testing came out which shined a brighter light on the problem (as if user complaints were not enough), but more importantly WHAT the problem was/is. It was then that AMD worked on the problem. Cartman nor I know if they knew or didn't know. What I take exception to is the 'absolute' type wording that he 'knows' they were 'cheating'. All we know is it was proven, by an Nvidia tool none the less, and AMD has made significant strides in fixing it, on time with their 13.8 release.



AMD Crossfire clearly scales, and quite well so I am not sure what garbage he is going on about when ANY review site, including here, shows good scaling. I mean christ, its like we are watching the sunrise in the east with some muppet standing next you swearing up and down its the west. I mean, Cartman is clearly not an idiot so I do not understand why he would say such a thing that is bunked with EVERY SINGLE CFX REVIEW POSTED. Im at a loss with that one.

As far as the last dude that says FPS are cut in half... friend, read a review. The one I read didn't remotely show a FPS reduction on the order of "half". If you have a link from one that does, post it on up please. :)

Here is one review..: techreport.com/review/25167/frame-pacing-driver-aims-to-revive-the-radeon-hd-7990/2

Sempron GuyHD7990 Malta here still at 45,000 pesos ( $1071 ) Chances of that new price being implement here is close to zero this year :laugh:

$1071!! Wow!

Here in Brazil it still costs 2200 dollars!

Eric_CartmanI'm sorry, but try again.

2x GTX 670 outperform 2x 7970s, because lets face it the 7990 is just 2x 7970s.

The GTX 690 is a good 15% faster than the 7990(proof here), and that was with AMD cheating by rendering stub frames.

Now, 2x GTX 670 is within 3% of a GTX 690(proof here).

So 2x GTX 670 outperform 2x 7970.

You can probably pull a benchmark or two out of your ass that shows the 7970s winning, but overall they loose by a good margin.

And since 2x GTX 770 are even faster than 2x GTX 670 there is no way 2x 7970 even comes close to competing.

Where matters, 7990 wins. They push higher than the 300W limit, but the card performs Good when matters(i'm not talking about games that the cards can make more than 200FPS and i'm talking about resolutions above 1080p.)

Facts are facts, then... tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Lightning/images/perfrel_2560.gif (still counting games that two cards make more than 150fps gaming!)

el etroWhere matters, 7990 wins.

You mean some numbers on graphs or the user experience?

I'm still don't care about this over-detailed metric. The only of these new metrics that seems reasonable to me is 99% FPS. Paced 7990 is not bad on this TOMSH tests, really.
IMO the only 7990 flaw today is to be a >300W card.

el etroI'm still don't care about this over-detailed metric. The only of these new metrics that seems reasonable to me is 99% FPS. Paced 7990 is not bad on this TOMSH tests, really.
IMO the only 7990 flaw today is to be a >300W card.

Well 7990 being 2 gpu's, no chance of getting under 300watts. But other flaw is if you are a 3 monitor gamer, the pacing doesn't work on anything over 1 monitor 1440p.

arbiterWell 7990 being 2 gpu's, no chance of getting under 300watts...

But power consumption of 690 stays under 300W in practically any condition, this is the problem. Tahiti is the worse of all GCN gpus by far and GK104 is the best GPU of all time.

arbiterBut other flaw is if you are a 3 monitor gamer, the pacing doesn't work on anything over 1 monitor 1440p.

Sure but i really care more about improving more one time the obtained frametimes. 99% FPS produced by 7990(paced) is most of times tied or sightly ahead of 690 99% FPS. Extend the pacing to Eyefinity comes in second.