It's just incredible how a company can reap BILLIONs in profits from sell such defective products...and the FTC is a disgrace for allowing them to do so, IMO.

Yes, the FTC should fine them billions of dollars so Microsoft can pass the savings onto the consumer for their monopolistic product. Food for thought.

JorgeIt's just incredible how a company can reap BILLIONs in profits from sell such defective products...and the FTC is a disgrace for allowing them to do so, IMO.

I don't think more regulation is a good answer.
Ideas != Solutions

JorgeIt's just incredible how a company can reap BILLIONs in profits from sell such defective products...and the FTC is a disgrace for allowing them to do so, IMO.

Please point me to a perfect product without issues :banghead:

JorgeIt's just incredible how a company can reap BILLIONs in profits from sell such defective products...and the FTC is a disgrace for allowing them to do so, IMO.

It's the most widely used product so there are bound to be more bugs found. If OSX was the main OS used worldwide we'd be reading news about that instead.

Money is an excuse for everyone. One's brand takes all responsibility.

JorgeIt's just incredible how a company can reap BILLIONs in profits from sell such defective products...and the FTC is a disgrace for allowing them to do so, IMO.

Software is constantly update, if patches is your requirement for "defective" then all software is "defective".

newtekie1Software is constantly update, if patches is your requirement for "defective" then all software is "defective".

Not to mention there's no such thing as a "final build" until the developers decide there is.

EDIT: Wait, I know a pretty perfect program:

PRINT "Hello, World!"

FrickNot to mention there's no such thing as a "final build" until the developers decide there is.

EDIT: Wait, I know a pretty perfect program:

PRINT "Hello, World!"

IDK about that, my original Hello World program has been updated three or four times as more efficient ways to do the print statement were implemented.:D

repman244Please point me to a perfect product without issues :banghead:

Obamacare... Oh wait, nevermind.

ArctucasObamacare... Oh wait, nevermind.

Are some of you new to computing because I don't know of any app or software in use (or that i would use)that is not frequently updated to improve it ,or OS for that matter were not using osx1 ,lynux 1 android v1 ,are we.

ArctucasObamacare... Oh wait, nevermind.

:confused: is this supposed to be some kind of challenged joke? wtf does this have to do with ANYTHING on a global hardware site

since when did obamacare claim to be the perfect problem free solution, how can anything? one size does not fit all, just keep iterating or even splitting into different products

I like this model of business and front ending cost

I like this model of business and front ending cost

I notice some bashing on Microsoft and some is warranted. Most is not. Now I like Windows. I liked Vista and 8. I did like them due to knowing many advanced functions like just how much one can make it behave the way you want. They also offer free updated in the states. One of the few companies that function under this premise. The product comes at a reasonable cost and the knowledge it will be supported for 5 years from when you buy it. I look forward to update days as I paid for them.

Now if we see this as a program that is updated automatically this is where the value is and then take a look at the other aspects of their business model we see a few beloved failures. First we have XBOX which has lost I think a Billion dollars this year (Bill Kramer today). The phone OS, which is 8 sort of. But making the phone a real computer is better in concept then the others (not good enough yet). This is another few Bills. And many more missteps over the last few years. These costs (innovation/ failure, loved items, updates) all cost money.

I put this down because we as consumers pay for an item then they change it to what the masses want. My car does not get a better engine or new paint job included with the purchase just to keep me happy with it. But this model works that way. Apple works on a model of updates paid for by paying double for the hardware then being boxed into official routs of purchase where they take 30%. Google runs on adds and bandwidth. We pay for this in life and in seeing endless flashing signs of video adds. We also get our searches to populate with sales sites first . Also Google causes middle class intellectual labor jobs to vanish. And though Linux lacks all these, the investment of life and education necessary to do tasks is much more expensive.

The desire of the market has spoken and professional with free adds or super high prices seem to be winning.

Though from a business standpoint Windows still holds ground because they update and the cost can be lower.


In short I like this model of business and front ending cost more then getting surprised later. It is easier to budget. Also less annoying, imagine DRM updates. Or a new OS you must update to or every app stops working (apple), recompile every thing in a slightly newer language hope someone else has your problem and made a good solution, or see adds. Hulu makes 1 dollar per show on average due to adds. 10-12 adds per show. Compared to $100. If you watched 2 shows online per week over one year you would be talking the money Windows runs. Google is not free and they make a killing the more you search and use their product.


I like this model of business and front ending cost but to be critical. I do wish they made all the options I know about in normal menus. I wish they would let us have access to this cosmetic stuff in one menu. I wish it felt less designed by committee. I also wish they would raise their middle finger high and make an add blocking search engine like Firefox. Charge 5 dollars and have the consumer go free. Let us buy eternal freedom from adds and garbage. Make Bing have no adds. Give up playing other companies games. Go back to being the professional crowd and just make life easy for tech professionals and beginners.

I like this model of business and front ending cost,
Microsoft should embrace it. Not this 365 garbage.