pjl321From what I have seen Maxwell is making my point for me, it's a tiny tweak to a stale 3-4 architecture. NVidia are totally reliant on 20nm to bring anything faster to the table.

The whole industry has lost the art of thinking outside the box and bringing something revolutionary to the table and it's purely down to competition, there is none!

AMD and nVidia normally only seem to fight on price and recently power usage.

Intel has no competition in the CPU market anymore and you can see that from how tiny the performance jumps are each generation. If you remember back when AMD had the lead for a year or two suddenly Intel managed to miraculously find 40% performance increase in one generation, they regained the lead and now it's back to 3% here, 5% there.

ARM is competitive with many big players and the performance jumps are massive each year, yes it's a young architecture but companies still need to invest to attain these performance leaps, that is driven by competition.

Currently the only Maxwell part that is going to be available is the 750Ti, which is a low end part. 28nm is deprecated now anyway, any new architecture should be looking to 20nm to be able to make the proper gains.

I doubt we will see a performance delta like when we moved from the 7xxx series GeForce cards to G80 based GTX 8xxx series cards. The times when we've seen huge gaps in processing power on new chips vs. old have usually been when a manufacturer made a misstep with the previous design; like the P4 to Core 2 you note above. P4 was a brand new architecture which just simply was not as efficient as the P3 architecture was (and coincidentally what the Core 2 was based on).

Now, the 7xxx series wasn't that much of a misstep especially compared to the 5xxx series, but it still was a small plateau before the big drop of G80.


Once we start seeing Maxwell on 20nm I think we'll see a good improvement in performance.

FluffmeisterGoodbye GK110, you'll be missed.

The final threads and countless... OMG it's $1000, I can't believe nVidia are forcing me to spend money, and of course the bastard isn't even black... are upon us already.

The king is dead, long live the king.

To be fair the "Titan" is black. Still FU nvidia for not making it moar sexy.

Will the 6GB vram be 6 GHz or 7 GHz?

Al Sharpton is going to be upset at Nvidia

Low Key release during Black History Month



The look on Jules face when he noticed the card wasn't black

:D

pjl321For an industry that used to churn out a 'proper' new top end card every 6-9 months plus that new card would usually double the performance over the last, its amazing to see how things have slowed down so much.

Those early 2x advances weren't just made on process or design, but by using more and more power.
And that pretty much had to stop when things started running into heat and power limits.

The 8800GTX was only 175W, GTX285 200W, and we finally hit the 250W ceiling with GTX480. After that all gains had to be made from design and process because TDP was pretty much maxed out.
Same thing for ATI/AMD. 3870 105W, 4870 150W, 5870 228W, and with the 6970 250W where it's stayed since.

Efficiency is the new speed. If Maxwell can perform same as Kepler at 1/2 the power, then we might just see a doubling of performance at the high end.

jihadjoeThose early 2x advances weren't just made on process or design, but by using more and more power.
And that pretty much had to stop when things started running into heat and power limits.

The 8800GTX was only 175W, GTX285 200W, and we finally hit the 250W ceiling with GTX480. After that all gains had to be made from design and process because TDP was pretty much maxed out.
Same thing for ATI/AMD. 3870 105W, 4870 150W, 5870 228W, and with the 6970 250W where it's stayed since.

Efficiency is the new speed. If Maxwell can perform same as Kepler at 1/2 the power, then we might just see a doubling of performance at the high end.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. It will be a combination of many factors but just irritates me when they wonder why sales have slowed when they don't release anything worth replacing what you already have. Give us a reason to give you our money!!

jihadjoeThose early 2x advances weren't just made on process or design, but by using more and more power.
And that pretty much had to stop when things started running into heat and power limits.

The 8800GTX was only 175W, GTX285 200W, and we finally hit the 250W ceiling with GTX480. After that all gains had to be made from design and process because TDP was pretty much maxed out.
Same thing for ATI/AMD. 3870 105W, 4870 150W, 5870 228W, and with the 6970 250W where it's stayed since.

Efficiency is the new speed. If Maxwell can perform same as Kepler at 1/2 the power, then we might just see a doubling of performance at the high end.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. It will be a combination of many factors but just irritates me when they wonder why sales have slowed when they don't release anything worth replacing what you already have. Give us a reason to give you our money!!