Tuesday, September 30th 2014

AMD "Tonga" Silicon Features 384-bit Wide Memory Interface

In what could explain the rather large die-size and transistor-count of AMD's "Tonga" silicon, compared to "Tahiti," it turns out that the silicon features a 384-bit wide GDDR5 memory interface, and not the previously thought of 256-bit wide one. The die is placed on a package with pins for just 256-bit, on the Radeon R9 285, but it can be placed on a bigger package, with more pins, to wire out the full width of the memory bus, in future SKUs. This isn't the first time AMD has done something like this. Its "Tahiti LE" chip was essentially a "Tahiti" die placed on a smaller package with pins for just a 256-bit wide memory bus, on the oddball Radeon HD 7870 XT.

What this means is that AMD's next performance-segment graphics card based on the "Tonga" silicon, could feature 50% more memory bandwidth than the R9 285. The stream processor count is still 2,048, but these are more advanced Graphics CoreNext 1.2 stream processors, compared to first-generation ones on "Tahiti," offering more performance per Watt. The TMU count remains 128, although there's no clarity on the ROP count. Estimates are split between 32 and 48. The R9 285 has 32, and so does "Tahiti."
Source: PCWatch
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29 Comments on AMD "Tonga" Silicon Features 384-bit Wide Memory Interface

#26
nunyabuisness
is it just me. or is the 285 showing some serious performance issues? im looking at those benchmarks you posted. its 50% slower then a 280! and in australia I have to pay $120 bucks more for a 285 vs a 280!! AMD is seriously almost done as a company. no innovation for years. still using 32nm 2d transistors. still using far too much power!
AMd has to release something new QUICK or it faces extinction
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#27
GSG-9
nunyabuisnessis it just me. or is the 285 showing some serious performance issues? im looking at those benchmarks you posted. its 50% slower then a 280! and in australia I have to pay $120 bucks more for a 285 vs a 280!! AMD is seriously almost done as a company. no innovation for years. still using 32nm 2d transistors. still using far too much power!
AMd has to release something new QUICK or it faces extinction
Don't be tooo hard on them.

I am using an Nvidia 690 that I bought for half price ($550) a year ago. It's been out for 2 years.
Beats anything anyones come out with. Buying a peak card after the next gen comes out is pretty awesome.
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#28
THE_EGG
Red_Machine*yawn* My 580 has a 384-bit wide memory bus. It's four years old.
My gtx260 sp216 has a 448-bit bus....I fail to see the point of your post. From what I've tried out with gaming performance, the width of the memory bus doesn't mean all that much in the real world (though there were many other variables that contributed too) and if having a smaller width means lower cost without sacrificing (much) performance then I'm all for it.

I'm actually excited about this. It should mean that Tonga is very adaptable for different performance segments which in turn should mean low price points.
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#29
Casecutter
Man you all miss'd that article is saying "Fiji" GPU as a 380X in February as a TSCM 20nm part, so what does that mean for this a full-Tonga?

IF AMD can get 20nm part the best's the 970/980 in 5 mo's I might say it's not that dire... I mean it took Nvidia 6 mo's to find a "part" on an current fab that performed better than a 7870 and then was terrible perf/watt while more often $30-40 more.
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