Thursday, April 9th 2015

Is This The XFX Radeon R9 390 Double Dissipation?

Some of the first pictures of XFX' Radeon R9 390 Double Dissipation graphics card made it to the web, weeks ahead of its launch. The card features a tall dual-slot cooling solution, featuring two 100 mm spinners, ventilating a large aluminium fin-stack heatsink. The card draws power from a combination of 6-pin and 8-pin PCIe power connectors. It features bridge-less XDMA CrossFire, much like the R9 290 series.

The second-best SKU carved out of the "Bermuda" silicon, the R9 390 will be positioned a notch below the R9 390X. There's no word on its specs, or how AMD carved it out of the "Bermuda" silicon, which features 4,096 stream processors based on the latest version of the Graphics CoreNext architecture, and a 4096-bit HBM memory interface, churning out 640 GB/s of memory bandwidth. AMD could allow its partners to come up with custom-design cards from day-one, with memory amounts ranging between 4 GB and 8 GB. The R9 390X and the R9 390 will be competitive with NVIDIA's GeForce GTX TITAN X, and other upcoming cards based on the GM200 silicon, such as the GTX 990.

Update 09/04: Some readers believe this card could be an R9 380, looking at the layout of components on the PCB from the top. We find this observation equally plausible. The R9 380 is essentially a rebadged R9 290 series, which AMD could sell at price-points competitive to the GTX 970.
Source: WCCFTech
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53 Comments on Is This The XFX Radeon R9 390 Double Dissipation?

#2
DeNeDe
doesn't it read 380 there ?
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#3
ZoneDymo
smexy, pretty darn big as well
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#4
ne6togadno
DeNeDedoesn't it read 380 there ?
i thought the same but numbers after 3 and R are the same so it is indeed r9 390
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#5
Finners
Will be nice if they have partner cards available at launch, if true with that many cards around we can expect benchmark leaks soon.

I'm a little worried about the length of the card, I have about 15mm clearance on the end of a reference 290 PCB. These look even longer.
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#6
neliz
FinnersI'm a little worried about the length of the card, I have about 15mm clearance on the end of a reference 290 PCB. These look even longer.
If you can afford new high-end GPUs all the time, surely you can afford a chassis which can fit standard PCI Express cards, no?
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#7
BiggieShady
It's a dual slot design versus very dense fin stack, large fans and tall card ... very similar to last year's XFX DD radeons that throttled their VRMs because they reached 128 celsius while gpu was at 90 something ... I cannot tell if this will be better if it is really capable of pulling 300W.
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#8
alwayssts
You guys are missing what's really important here...

...Bermuda? o_O

I don't know if I should mention this for fear of anyone important actually catching on, but BTA has a tendency to 'correct' things in his news posts when he knows something, which in itself can be telling of a situation (often shortly before launches).

You holding out on us, man? :D

There must be a reason for this quick post when, what is this, like the 3,584th 390 series story?

(*waits for 'no comment'*)
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#9
Caring1
BiggieShadyIt's a dual slot design versus very dense fin stack, large fans and tall card ... very similar to last year's XFX DD radeons that throttled their VRMs because they reached 128 celsius while gpu was at 90 something ... I cannot tell if this will be better if it is really capable of pulling 300W.
Yes, and a design that lends itself to an AIO with little modification.
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#10
micropage7
btarunrfeaturing two 100 mm spinners
its dual fans:D

looks pretty nice, just curious how far from previous cards
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#11
HumanSmoke
FinnersI'm a little worried about the length of the card, I have about 15mm clearance on the end of a reference 290 PCB. These look even longer.
Judging by the length ( scaling the PCI-E slot connector), it actually looks to have roughly the same dimensions as their existing 290....


...weren't the HBM stacks supposed to aspirin sized?
Interesting if this is a 390 - about time AMD allowed vendor designs on launch day.
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#12
Ebo
IF this is a true pic of the R9 390, im just waiting for Sapphire to launch their model, then Im in :peace:
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#13
RejZoR
For dimensions, you can use the PCIe connection as reference. That one is the same length on all cards, then you just extrapolate the dimensions according to the scale obtained from the PCIe connector.

Also, call me whatever you want but for some reason I don't trust XFX much. I'll be going with Gigabyte WindForce 3X yet again. Amazing cooler design. I'll also be going with the R9-390 (non X) unless the price will be really good for 390X. Which I doubt but still.
C'mon AMD, bring us the cards!
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#14
BiggieShady
HumanSmokeInteresting if this is a 390 - about time AMD allowed vendor designs on launch day.
Funny how you are extra careful with conditionals ... when you think about it, what else could it be - I highly doubt someone would troll the world with a custom cooler on 290 card with XFX logos all over ... would kinda risky and open for legal action.
About vendor designs, I hope AMD decided it's better to not do reference cooler at all this generation, because they would've had to cheap out in its production anyways and repeat all the throttling issues they had with reference Hawaii at launch (I'm sure Bermuda is much more efficient, but that's offset by increase in cores to stay in the same power envelope)
RejZoRAlso, call me whatever you want but for some reason I don't trust XFX much.
I'll call you rightfully cautious :D ... IMO they were great quality-wise around 2009-2010 with their first series of core edition cards ... I still have their GTX 260, but after that they went AMD exclusively iirc.
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#16
natr0n
Looks fancy.
Sonic would be proud of them gold rings.
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#17
NC37
BiggieShadyI'll call you rightfully cautious :D ... IMO they were great quality-wise around 2009-2010 with their first series of core edition cards ... I still have their GTX 260, but after that they went AMD exclusively iirc.
Still lifetime warranty. Heck if that covers the fans, be worth it for me. Had both fans on one of my Gigabyte 460s go bad. Had to splice in some spares around. Then a 3rd fan has been acting up on the other for some time. Fan just literally disintegrates on the inside then pops off the card.
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#18
BiggieShady
natr0nSonic would be proud of them gold rings.
Hah, only if they'd fall off eventually, bounce around the house and needed to be collected
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#19
RejZoR
NC37Still lifetime warranty. Heck if that covers the fans, be worth it for me. Had both fans on one of my Gigabyte 460s go bad. Had to splice in some spares around. Then a 3rd fan has been acting up on the other for some time. Fan just literally disintegrates on the inside then pops off the card.
No such problems with HD7950 WindForce 3X and you know how old it is. And it's running almost 24/7. Though I do have custom made fan profile so it never spins like mad, making it nicer on the bearings I guess. I do keep it dust free and when cleaning with compressor, I block the blades from spinning.
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#20
AsRock
TPU addict
BiggieShadyIt's a dual slot design versus very dense fin stack, large fans and tall card ... very similar to last year's XFX DD radeons that throttled their VRMs because they reached 128 celsius while gpu was at 90 something ... I cannot tell if this will be better if it is really capable of pulling 300W.
HUH, pretty much the same the vrm are not on a plate no more by the looks of it which covered all vrm's and ram chips. Does look like there is a plate over the ram chips and maybe the cooler vrm chips but the possible problem vrms have that silver heatsink.

I never seen mine throttle the cooler works how ever this looks a bit worse than the XFX 290XDD, the cooler sits even closer to the PCB than before which blocks chances of adding more cooling without replacing the main part of the cooler.

The VRM's ( #No2) could be a issue even more so in average cases with semi good cooling, but the GPU cooler never had a issue.

I do with they kept the same black and made it all black and gave better clearance over the VRM so a 3rd party vrm cooling be more possible.
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#21
joyman
Looks like this is indeed R9 380, which is supposed to be rebrand of R9 290, which is the same size, have same cooler, have nothing to be developed, just bios flash for the name of the card - all fits.
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#22
ne6togadno
joymanLooks like this is indeed R9 380, which is supposed to be rebrand of R9 290, which is the same size, have same cooler, have nothing to be developed, just bios flash for the name of the card - all fits.
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#23
Ikaruga
I know I do not add much to this conversation, (please accept my appology) but "WCCFTech"?, really?
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#24
BiggieShady
AsRockI never seen mine throttle the cooler works how ever this looks a bit worse than the XFX 290XDD, the cooler sits even closer to the PCB than before which blocks chances of adding more cooling without replacing the main part of the cooler.

The VRM's ( #No2) could be a issue even more so in average cases with semi good cooling, but the GPU cooler never had a issue.
I don't know why VRM gets so toasty in reviews, maybe they are simple mosfets that just look fancy with their metal cover on them :

Looks like they use CopperMOS/DirectFET ... much better than old d-paks but not as good as integrated circuits.
I have seen cards with less phases and integrated circuits for VRM (driver+mosfet) that really don't need any extra cooling or plate contact.
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#25
GhostRyder
Wow, if this is the R9 390 then we are getting near the launch of something or someone likes to mess with us. To me what I see more than anything is the fact this is a DD edition of the card (Referencing the name of XFX's cooler) and not a stock AIO/Blower because seeing this out well before launch could mean we will see custom versions out the gate this go round.

As far as XFX goes, they have had their ups and downs on the designs of their cooler recently. I believe the 6XXX series was pretty good while the 7XXX series had its share of issues with the VRM cooling and such. But I believe that all the R9 series coolers resolved that issue for the most part from what I have seen. I have a friend who has a pair of the 290 versions and they have been pretty good.
joymanLooks like this is indeed R9 380, which is supposed to be rebrand of R9 290, which is the same size, have same cooler, have nothing to be developed, just bios flash for the name of the card - all fits.
Well judging from the picture this does not look to be an R9 380 mostly because the middle number in the 3XX part has a curve on the left side but not the right. Could be a problem with the picture but this looks more to me to be a 9 than an 8.
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