I really like Cryorig products.

Unfortunately im not a big fan of air cooling but they look beautiful and well designed.

AnimalpakI really like Cryorig products.

Unfortunately im not a big fan of air cooling but they look beautiful and well designed.

I am very surprised someone is a fan of water cooling. AIO water coolers are expensive and offer the same "performance" as air coolers. Water cooling only comes handy when you have two or more graphic cards + CPU or R9 295X2 (I would remove reference water cooler if I had) + CPU.
Water cooling is expensive and it takes a lot of space in PC case.

Uplink10I am very surprised someone is a fan of water cooling. AIO water coolers are expensive and offer the same "performance" as air coolers. Water cooling only comes handy when you have two or more graphic cards + CPU or R9 295X2 (I would remove reference water cooler if I had) + CPU.
Water cooling is expensive and it takes a lot of space in PC case.

Custom water cooling is better than air cooling if you're cooling 125W or higher TDP chips. Regular AIO cooling is just a more expensive air cooling.

buildzoidCustom water cooling is better than air cooling if you're cooling 125W or higher TDP chips. Regular AIO cooling is just a more expensive air cooling.

What is "better" to me.

Put an NH-D15
An H105
An H110GT
A Kraken X61

Ask me which one i want for my 5820K chip - ill tell you that D15. Why? becuase ill be able to use all of them to get my wanted 4.5-4.6 24\7 speed. But it will be quiter using the D15, the king of noise-to-performance ratio. No pumps on my plates, waiter.

Sure, WC is a nice hobby and all, and i currently use a cute system, but D15 will still be my safe, poor-man's choice

Dj-ElectriCWhat is "better" to me.

Put an NH-D15
An H105
An H110GT
A Kraken X61

Ask me which one i want for my 5820K chip - ill tell you that D15. Why? becuase ill be able to use all of them to get my wanted 4.5-4.6 24\7 speed. But it will be quiter using the D15, the king of noise-to-performance ratio. No pumps on my plates, waiter.

Sure, WC is a nice hobby and all, and i currently use a cute system, but D15 will still be my safe, poor-man's choice

How is the D15 a poor-mans choice if it is the same price as a 240mm h100i? I'd rather have a 120mm rad mounted on my rear fan, and a small waterblock screwed onto the motherboard, rather than have a massive, heavy metal heatsink strapped to it. much lesser chance of something breaking during transport/moving-to-another-desk with a small waterblock.

Dj-ElectriCWhat is "better" to me.

Put an NH-D15
An H105
An H110GT
A Kraken X61

Ask me which one i want for my 5820K chip - ill tell you that D15. Why? becuase ill be able to use all of them to get my wanted 4.5-4.6 24\7 speed. But it will be quiter using the D15, the king of noise-to-performance ratio. No pumps on my plates, waiter.

Sure, WC is a nice hobby and all, and i currently use a cute system, but D15 will still be my safe, poor-man's choice

None of those are custom loops. The H105 has a similar heat dissipation ability as the NH-D15. Actual water cooling using a Laing DDC or D5 pump EK waterblocks supremacy CPU block and a 360mm copper rad with 1350RPM fans will give you room for either 100 - 200mhz more or drop temps by 10-15C. My loop can keep my 3960X sub 80C even when running cinebench at 1.65V and 5.25Ghz no AIO or air cooler can do that.

Depending on how well this HSF performs and it's price, will determine it's success. I'm thinking it's going to be mid-field in the tower crowd with only four heat pipes.

As far as liquid cooling goes, technically astute PC enthusiasts are aware that AIO/CLCs are basically inferior cooling systems compared to quality HSFs in that the AIO/CLCs cost more, are often more noisy, often heat up other components in the PC case because they perform better by blowing the hot air from the radiators into the case because the outside air is cooler than the internal PC case air and most importantly the AIO/CLCs (as do open loop liquid cooling systems), introduce a coolant leak liability that is not only real but documented and dangerous - when there is no need to introduce this liability unless you're going to use a chiller.

A quality tower HSF will cool any current X86 CPU even when overclocked to the max. IME most people who buy AIO/CLCs do so assuming they cool better than a quality HSF. They assume that water is better but in reality the AIO/CLCs are very poor thermal cooling products, especially considering the cost. Fortunately for the purveyors of AIO/CLCs many PC enthusiasts are technically challenged and don't even understand that these products are inferior or that using them introduces a major coolant leak liability. Corsair had so many leakers they had to start replacing damaged hardware for free and offer a guarantee against PC damage. That shows you the real problem that many ignore. The guarantee doesn't prevent damaged hardware or lost data or weeks without the use of your PC. HSFs never leak coolant. It's foolish to use a AIO/CLC when a HSF performs just fine and cost less.

Open loop systems still suffer from the coolant leak liability and system maintenance as the hardware corrodes over time and must be cleaned even with anti-corrosive and algae additives. Open loop systems generally worth bothering with start at $200 and go up. Unless you have one of more GPU cards that really needs liquid cooling for some reason, you're far better off to skip the liquid coolant nonsense unless you're installing this liability just for entertainment and you're willing to deal with the hassles. Many people are unhappy when they learn the truth about AIO/CLCs, but it is what it is. Any serious PPC enthusiasts should be able to understand the thermal cooling and noise data provided by reputable CPU cooler review sites like Frosty Tech and Hardware Secrets to enable them to make a technically informed purchasing decision.

Dj-ElectriCAsk me which one i want for my 5820K chip - ill tell you that D15. Why? becuase ill be able to use all of them to get my wanted 4.5-4.6 24\7 speed. But it will be quiter using the D15, the king of noise-to-performance ratio.

I can also recommend the Dark Rock Pro 3. It's slightly warmer than the D15 (about 4-6C, so it's nothing bad), but it's cheaper, it's quiet and it looks like a boss:)

I'm also a air heatsink guy, but to me each has it's own strength.

Air cooling is fast and efficient (the speed of thermal conduction of heatpipes is insane, it's basically phase change based)
AIO cooling has it's advantages of taking high heat loads and higher TDP capacity.

But a high TDP capacity doesn't mean it will cool things to a lower temp, just that it can take higher loads while still remaining functional. So it really comes down to what you want to cool.