Too many RGB products, in a way its good for anyone who wants to colour match their pc but for the rest its just a marketing gimmick.

I think having RGB in giant letters on the side of my PSU is fugly as all get out

i dont see the point of lights on PSU's, well a fan with led ligth... inside a PSU,

Regards,

Hey our PSU has RGB lighting, but dammed if were going to show you, like come on that box don't count. But look we do Laptop coolers hahaha.

i hate laptops too ... so still pointless

Jonnyguru has already tested the 1250 watt model and while its not bad at all there are better options out there

Some of those are cheaper as well so it is a bit overpriced.
www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=458

Overall not bad at all but an EVGA SuperNova P2 1200 watt would be a better option, unless you really cant live without the lights and the software.

Oh, yeah, more bullshit in the PSU market(ing)...

After Single rail -> removing of protections, cost optimizations (because you can use protection chips without OCP)
Semi Fanless and other shit, now RGB LEDs and 10 Years of Warranty...


Who here believes that they really get 10 Years of Warranty?
For that Thermaltake needs to be around (and in good shape) in 10 years...
Especially since 'wear and tear due to normal use' is not covered in the warranty...

And do you really think that a PSU dies after 9,5 years because it is not related to wear and tear?!

Stefan PayneEspecially since 'wear and tear due to normal use' is not covered in the warranty...

And do you really think that a PSU dies after 9,5 years because it is not related to wear and tear?!

I kinda doubt that part, to be honest. Though it is a gamble whether or not any company will last 10 years.

who is the oem .. probably be delta electronics.. but that bluetoot connectivity sounds like master watt 1200 of cooler master and that psu be made by enhance.. :p

R-T-BI kinda doubt that part, to be honest. Though it is a gamble whether or not any company will last 10 years.

Why?!
Have you ever read a warranty agreement of a PSU manufacturer?
I do (for reviews and such) and all that I remember have 'wear and tear due to normal use' under those things that are NOT covered under warranty.

Corsair has for example and I doubt that Thermaltake doesn't have such a statement...

nemwho is the oem .. probably be delta electronics.. but that bluetoot connectivity sounds like master watt 1200 of cooler master and that psu be made by enhance.. :p

Delta?! Never ever!
Delta is a OEM manufacturer and I haven't seen any Thermaltake PSU from Delta ever.

Most of their stuff is from CWT. So that's what I'd guess...
And CWT already has that digital shit...

Stefan PayneWhy?!
Have you ever read a warranty agreement of a PSU manufacturer?
I do (for reviews and such) and all that I remember have 'wear and tear due to normal use' under those things that are NOT covered under warranty.

Corsair has for example and I doubt that Thermaltake doesn't have such a statement...

Well Seasonic has replaced PSUs for me within 1 year of warranty ending. I think if there is such a clause, it'd be hell to enforce and is more to protect them from people who call a carton of cigarettes into the back of the PSU per day "normal wear and tear"

It's also highly likely you are misinterpreting said clause, and it's to protect them from people sending in "cosmetic" issues for warranty repair (paint scratches, anyone?)

You are right about one thing though... CWT is the OEM. Jonnyguru says so.

cdawallI think having RGB in giant letters on the side of my PSU is fugly as all get out

Not the only thing. That sleeve job is essentially pointless.

R-T-BWell Seasonic has replaced PSUs for me within 1 year of warranty ending. I think if there is such a clause, it'd be hell to enforce and is more to protect them from people who call a carton of cigarettes into the back of the PSU per day "normal wear and tear"

It's also highly likely you are misinterpreting said clause, and it's to protect them from people sending in "cosmetic" issues for warranty repair (paint scratches, anyone?)

You are right about one thing though... CWT is the OEM. Jonnyguru says so.

Yes, but Seasonic does not have a 10 Year warranty ;)
And they are 'first source'. For them a long warranty can have benefits for research and development, to improve the manufacturing process and the design itself also.
So that's a completely different story...

Thermaltake on the other hand does not manufacture anything, they let that do someone else. And they don't give Termaltake the kind of warranty they give you...

So they have to write the units that broke after the manufacturer warranty off...
And as time goes, so goes the RMA rate up (bathtub curve)...

With that in mind, it is highly possible that Thermaltake might reject your RMA request. May it because their RMA budget for the time period is used up or something else....

Buttom line is that just because they say they give 10 Years of Warranty on a product, that you can actually use it.

Also there are some small things that help in rejecting the warranty. That you have to have a proof of purchase for example is one of those things that many manufacturers use. Because many people throw those pieces of paper away - and when they want to RMA the unit, they get rejected because of that...

Stefan PayneWith that in mind, it is highly possible that Thermaltake might reject your RMA request. May it because their RMA budget for the time period is used up or something else....

they have also Great RMA, and warranty, i have returned several items ofr warranty replacement and have recibed "0" complains, bad feedback or issues ... thats mostly the reason #1 i used mostly everything i could purchase from them, excellent quality, response time on every question ... and also i like their design scheme ...
PSU are mostly made by CWT [chanelwell technology] by the way ....

Stefan PayneYes, but Seasonic does not have a 10 Year warranty ;)
And they are 'first source'. For them a long warranty can have benefits for research and development, to improve the manufacturing process and the design itself also.
So that's a completely different story...

Thermaltake on the other hand does not manufacture anything, they let that do someone else. And they don't give Termaltake the kind of warranty they give you...

So they have to write the units that broke after the manufacturer warranty off...
And as time goes, so goes the RMA rate up (bathtub curve)...

With that in mind, it is highly possible that Thermaltake might reject your RMA request. May it because their RMA budget for the time period is used up or something else....

Buttom line is that just because they say they give 10 Years of Warranty on a product, that you can actually use it.

Also there are some small things that help in rejecting the warranty. That you have to have a proof of purchase for example is one of those things that many manufacturers use. Because many people throw those pieces of paper away - and when they want to RMA the unit, they get rejected because of that...

That's why i go newegg, they keep receipts for ever, another reason they might is some thing else in the warranty saying until end of production of that unit.

wow right now JonnyGURU have performeded an review to this PSU.. check

NICE!!!

www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=458

Build Quality is, as it's very common for 'high end' CWT Units, pretty bad...

There are solderblobs everywhere...
Take a look between the two transformers...

Woudn't recomend this Thing, until they fix that.
But that may cost a Dollar more...

Stefan PayneThere are solderblobs everywhere...
Take a look between the two transformers...

Pics or didn't happened

Take a close look at the 3rd pic from the buttom, disassembly part of the review nem posted...
If you know where to look, you find those solderblobs pretty quickly...

btarunr

this one..?
pics are pretty bad quality by the way ....

here are another photos...
i like tooooo much all the cables they incluide with the PSU as pictured, plenty of variety, also the ones wiht a plastic holder / clip is another great thing for modular cables, im not so friendly with modular PSU's but i gotta recognize that modular ones will make a better cable management on every Rig, so maybe some day ...


Regards,

No, here:
www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=458

3rd pic from the buttom

And also some other areas, especially those hand soldered parts are pretty bad...

Stefan PayneNo, here:
www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=458

3rd pic from the buttom

And also some other areas, especially those hand soldered parts are pretty bad...

:fear:

pechethis one..?
pics are pretty bad quality by the way ....

are you sure ?